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Re: When is a Sieg not a Sieg?

 

Hi Ian,

You referenced the 2 locknuts on the compound feed when you were
talking about the locking grub screw in the end of your leed screw
last week. I was mystified but figured I understood the leedscrew
bit so let the compound reference go through to the keeper. Now I
understand!

John



--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "steam4ian" <fosterscons@...>
wrote:

G'day all.

My machine may be a Real Bull, which may explain many of my posts!

More variations. The RBM machine (probably mine) has two lock nuts
on
the compound feed screw to provide adjustment of the bearing
backlash??? They bear on the dial and so effect that as well.
This also may explain why the 50 division dials I bought from LMS
don't fit. The internal diameter is 12mm whilst my feedscrew
shafts
are 10mm diameter.
The fix will not be difficult. For the cross slide I intend to
turn
up a bush, 10mm internal and 12mm external make a saw cut along
the
bush. I can cross drill and tap the dial 6mm (as per my existing
dial) and use a set screw to adjust the friction with the shaft.
For
the componud I can make a similar bush but with a collar at the
inboard end. The dial can also be cross drilled and also have a
recess for the collar of the bush bored out, the existing lock nut
can press against the outboard end of the bush.

Why the 50 div dials? because I work in metric and the Thou
divisions
are a pain, you have to calculate for evey adjustment.

Please join the game of "spot the difference."

One good turn deserves another.
Regards,
Ian


Re: When is a Sieg not a Sieg?

 

G'day all.

My machine may be a Real Bull, which may explain many of my posts!

More variations. The RBM machine (probably mine) has two lock nuts on
the compound feed screw to provide adjustment of the bearing
backlash??? They bear on the dial and so effect that as well.
This also may explain why the 50 division dials I bought from LMS
don't fit. The internal diameter is 12mm whilst my feedscrew shafts
are 10mm diameter.
The fix will not be difficult. For the cross slide I intend to turn
up a bush, 10mm internal and 12mm external make a saw cut along the
bush. I can cross drill and tap the dial 6mm (as per my existing
dial) and use a set screw to adjust the friction with the shaft. For
the componud I can make a similar bush but with a collar at the
inboard end. The dial can also be cross drilled and also have a
recess for the collar of the bush bored out, the existing lock nut
can press against the outboard end of the bush.

Why the 50 div dials? because I work in metric and the Thou divisions
are a pain, you have to calculate for evey adjustment.

Please join the game of "spot the difference."

One good turn deserves another.
Regards,
Ian


blown fuses

 

Hi all,
I have the 7x14 Mini Lathe with the digital readout. I had cause to
change over to the metal gears and put new bearings in as well. My big
question is now that I have it all back together the machine keeps
blowing the fuse when I turn on the power. The gear box is not stiff,
the motor and box turn over by hand and I color coded all the wires
before I pulled them out so I could make sure they went back in the
right place. The yellow light still comes on, even when the fuse is
blown. Have I inadvertedly blown some of the electronics in the board?
Regards,
Garry


Re: When is a Sieg not a Sieg?

 

G'day John.
I believe you may be right.
Thank you for your prompt response. Real Bull Machinery have a
functioning web site. They have variations on the 7x12 including a CNC
version.
They also have two small mills on offer place a range of accesssories.

HOW many clones are out there?

One good turn deserves another,
Regards,
Ian

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., johnm7@... wrote:

I believe your lathe is by Real Bull and not Seig.

Later..........John


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Re: Advice Sought for New User

 

G'day Nicipi.
I'm glad you are still with us. Your tolerances seem more generaous
than implied by your initial description.
Regarding the video/DVD. I am sure links from minilathe.com will find
something. I think Frank Hoose has an instructional vidoe. See also
minilathe.org.uk ,this guy has some good stuff. Try Googling "mini
lathe" and "DVD" or "video". Places like Plough Books and Camden
Books have books and I think you will find videos also, they handle
international orders well; try eBay also.

I look forward to hearing your progress.

One good turn deserves another.
Regards,
Ian

your--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "nicipi" <nicipi@...> wrote:

First, thanks for all your feedback Mike, John, Ian and Mike - you
guys have added a lot to my sense of what's involved in this
endeavor. I should at least clarify my tolerances.

The wall thickness can actually be anywhere between 16thou and
32thou, and every one that I make can be in that range (don't all
need to be identical); the only restriction here is that it still
be
flarable. Also, the thickness should be relative to the 0.437"
outer
diameter of the main part of the tube (the 0.437" can be plus/minus
5thou or maybe even 10thou). It is important that the
0.625" "outward rolled-like bead" be clean and rounded (a picture
would really help here - I have a photo and a schematic but don't
know how to share it with you guys). Otherwise, the surfaces don't
need to be perfect, so for example, as John points out, the inside
of
the tube can be done with just drill/bore (if I'm using the right
wording).

What I first need to do is make sure I understand the procedural
options here. Each of you guys have added something unique to try,
and I've been reading your instructions over and over. What's
just
now becoming a little clearer to me are things like what does the
tailstock do, what are the options for supporting the piece, what
are
centers, etc., and most importantly, what is a mandrel and how is
it
used (so that I can implement Mike's technique or variant thereof -
the mandrel seems to be a key here.) It certainly would be helpful
to see one of these machines up close and in action. I even looked
on youtube but only one video came up when I searched on "mini-
lathe"
and it wasn't very enlightening.

Nicipi


Re: When is a Sieg not a Sieg?

Jim RabidWolf
 

Older Homier and Cummins used 4 mm keyways.

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We Repair Electronic Speed Controllers
For Asian Mini Lathes and Mini Mills
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:22 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] When is a Sieg not a Sieg?


G'day all.
I recently told you of my testing of the leadscrew mechincal fuse, it
works!. Yes, I damaged the 80T gear. Thankfully it is not beyond
recovery, so that it is now in the tuit basket.
I had previously purchased a spares kit from LMS and this morning dug
the replacement 80T gwear out of the bag. Surprise! the key way is
3mm wide not 4mm as for my lathe. I know my key is 4mm because a few
weeks ago I dropped my key in the swarf (on the floor I thought) No
amount of grovelling could find it so I grabbed a MS tent peg and
milled a new key; actually I used a file. BTW I found the key hiding
under the control box this morning.
I recently got an idler sleeve and key from LMS only to find tha the
key on that is 3mm as is the replacement LS key I purchased. The 57T
& 65T gears I purchased from LMS also have 3mm keyways whilst the
gears that came with the lathe have 4mm key ways. Thankfully a file
can address most of the problems. I can probably file a T profile key
for the sleeve, 3mm one side and 4mm the other.
The QUESTIONS:-
When and how did the change occur? My lathe has similar features to
the yellow Cummins, eg, square not H shaped saddle, way wipers, ball
oilers, nut on RH end of lead screw, etc. Some much earlier posts
commented that the yellow Cummins lathe was not made by Sieg.

Have others with yellow Cummins or Chestern Conquest lathes had the
same experience? The present Cummins lathe is blue and the pictures
don't show the features I refer to.

Have you found other dissimilarities?

Maybe Chris of LMS is lurking so he could comment?

Finally, why are Tuit baskets square??

One good turn deserves another.
Regards.
Ian



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When is a Sieg not a Sieg?

 

G'day all.
I recently told you of my testing of the leadscrew mechincal fuse, it
works!. Yes, I damaged the 80T gear. Thankfully it is not beyond
recovery, so that it is now in the tuit basket.
I had previously purchased a spares kit from LMS and this morning dug
the replacement 80T gwear out of the bag. Surprise! the key way is
3mm wide not 4mm as for my lathe. I know my key is 4mm because a few
weeks ago I dropped my key in the swarf (on the floor I thought) No
amount of grovelling could find it so I grabbed a MS tent peg and
milled a new key; actually I used a file. BTW I found the key hiding
under the control box this morning.
I recently got an idler sleeve and key from LMS only to find tha the
key on that is 3mm as is the replacement LS key I purchased. The 57T
& 65T gears I purchased from LMS also have 3mm keyways whilst the
gears that came with the lathe have 4mm key ways. Thankfully a file
can address most of the problems. I can probably file a T profile key
for the sleeve, 3mm one side and 4mm the other.
The QUESTIONS:-
When and how did the change occur? My lathe has similar features to
the yellow Cummins, eg, square not H shaped saddle, way wipers, ball
oilers, nut on RH end of lead screw, etc. Some much earlier posts
commented that the yellow Cummins lathe was not made by Sieg.

Have others with yellow Cummins or Chestern Conquest lathes had the
same experience? The present Cummins lathe is blue and the pictures
don't show the features I refer to.

Have you found other dissimilarities?

Maybe Chris of LMS is lurking so he could comment?

Finally, why are Tuit baskets square??

One good turn deserves another.
Regards.
Ian


Re: Advice Sought for New User

Mike Payson
 

Hi Nicipi,

I'm certainly not an expert. I'm only a bit more advanced then you
are. It sounds like what you want to do should be well within the
capabilities of the lathe. It might take you several tries to get the
process down, but the nice thing about doing a bunch of the same part
is you have plenty of opportunity to practice.

FWIW, you might want to start with some tubing (such as
)
instead of rod stock. (Or maybe not, like I said, I'm a newbie too...)

Mike

On 3/30/07, nicipi <nicipi@...> wrote:
First, thanks for all your feedback Mike, John, Ian and Mike - you
guys have added a lot to my sense of what's involved in this
endeavor. I should at least clarify my tolerances.

The wall thickness can actually be anywhere between 16thou and
32thou, and every one that I make can be in that range (don't all
need to be identical); the only restriction here is that it still be
flarable. Also, the thickness should be relative to the 0.437" outer
diameter of the main part of the tube (the 0.437" can be plus/minus
5thou or maybe even 10thou). It is important that the
0.625" "outward rolled-like bead" be clean and rounded (a picture
would really help here - I have a photo and a schematic but don't
know how to share it with you guys). Otherwise, the surfaces don't
need to be perfect, so for example, as John points out, the inside of
the tube can be done with just drill/bore (if I'm using the right
wording).

What I first need to do is make sure I understand the procedural
options here. Each of you guys have added something unique to try,
and I've been reading your instructions over and over. What's just
now becoming a little clearer to me are things like what does the
tailstock do, what are the options for supporting the piece, what are
centers, etc., and most importantly, what is a mandrel and how is it
used (so that I can implement Mike's technique or variant thereof -
the mandrel seems to be a key here.) It certainly would be helpful
to see one of these machines up close and in action. I even looked
on youtube but only one video came up when I searched on "mini-lathe"
and it wasn't very enlightening.

Nicipi




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Re: Tool post mods by "Driggars"

Clint D
 

Ron

That is actually Rance's tool post mods, I just uploaded the pix for him. so, Rance gets the credit, no matter how much I would love to receive it 8-)

Clint


Ronald Durbin wrote:

Hi, Clint. I just saw your drawings of the tool post modification in the photos section. I have done this with a smaller post, except that I used set screws (or grub screws, as our British brothers and sisters call them) comming up from the bottom. To adjust, just undo the retaining nut on top, lift up the post, back off the top screw slightly, engage (run further in) the bottom screw tightly, and replace the post as per normal. This sometimes take a few tries, but once the height is achieved, all is well. Great drawings, by the way!. Ron.



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Re: Advice Sought for New User

 

First, thanks for all your feedback Mike, John, Ian and Mike - you
guys have added a lot to my sense of what's involved in this
endeavor. I should at least clarify my tolerances.

The wall thickness can actually be anywhere between 16thou and
32thou, and every one that I make can be in that range (don't all
need to be identical); the only restriction here is that it still be
flarable. Also, the thickness should be relative to the 0.437" outer
diameter of the main part of the tube (the 0.437" can be plus/minus
5thou or maybe even 10thou). It is important that the
0.625" "outward rolled-like bead" be clean and rounded (a picture
would really help here - I have a photo and a schematic but don't
know how to share it with you guys). Otherwise, the surfaces don't
need to be perfect, so for example, as John points out, the inside of
the tube can be done with just drill/bore (if I'm using the right
wording).

What I first need to do is make sure I understand the procedural
options here. Each of you guys have added something unique to try,
and I've been reading your instructions over and over. What's just
now becoming a little clearer to me are things like what does the
tailstock do, what are the options for supporting the piece, what are
centers, etc., and most importantly, what is a mandrel and how is it
used (so that I can implement Mike's technique or variant thereof -
the mandrel seems to be a key here.) It certainly would be helpful
to see one of these machines up close and in action. I even looked
on youtube but only one video came up when I searched on "mini-lathe"
and it wasn't very enlightening.

Nicipi


Re: Advice Sought for New User

 

It's well within the lathe's capabilities. The tricky part is going
to be working with the thin wall without tearing or distorting the
piece. Since it's only 1" long, I'd make it in one chucking, parting
the finished piece off of a length of stock. Rather than flaring it
after it's made into a tube, consider machining the flare while it's
made into tubing.

6 jaw chucks are ideal for working thin walled tubular pieces, the
clamping force is distributed over more area than with a 3 jaw. For
tubular work, collets are also convenient. Since they distribute the
clamping forces over even more area, they're better than a jawed
chuck. They're also more accurate than most chucks. You can solve
the rechucking problem by making an adjustable backplate for the
chuck, ideal with a 4" chuck, since you need a separate backplate to
mount it.

Roy

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "nicipi" <nicipi@...> wrote:


Hi,

I am thinking about bying a Mini-Lath (like the one shown on
mini-lathe.com). Among many reasons, the main reason is to make a
part
that is essentially a tube (aluminum alloy 6061) that has an outside
diameter of 0.437 inches and a wall thickness of 0.016 inches. I
want
to be able to flare the end when I'm finished, so my first question
is,
by milling the aluminum on a mini-lathe, will that ruin the temper
of
the alloy such that it can't be flared afterward? My second
question
is this: I also want to start from a stock of outside diameter of
0.625
inches, reason being that I want one end (not to be flared) to be
left
with a "bead" of a diameter 0.625 inches. Can these lathes do this
kind
of thing, that is, make tube that one would get as if you had a
machine
that form an "outward rolled end"?


Re: When is a Sieg not a Sieg?

 

I believe your lathe is by Real Bull and not Seig.

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Re: Advice Sought for New User

 

G'day nicipi.
You have some sound adice from Mike & John. The limitation to what
you want to do will be the strength of the material and your skill. I
take it by your question that you may not have used a lathe before.
Having a specific project is a great excuse for increasing your
retinue of tools, I should know, my shop is full of them!
If you have this project as an excuse to buy a lathe which you've
always wanted, then go ahead. Be prepared to spend time gaining and
improving your skill, this is the best part, very good for your self
esteem. IMHO for every hour spent improving the lathe to get better
outcomes, 10 hours will be spent improving your personal skills. The
scrap bucket is a great invention!

The problems you will face with what you propose include:
Distortion of the 16thou walls of the tube as you take the final cut,
the tube wall may even tear.
If made from tube then distortion in the 3 jaw chuck.
Mike's proposal with the mandrell will help over come these problems.
For me I would make the part out of bar and drill and bore the hole
to depth. Insert a mandell in the outer end to support the work on
the tailstock then turn down to the diamemters you require.
You will have to experiment; it may be better turning the 0.625"
diameter at the TS end. Also doing the reduction of diameter to the
16thou wall thichness may be better as one full depth cut with a sery
slow feed rate.

TOLERANCE: No! I'm not talking about putting up with my comments!
No machined part is every exactly the same dimension, CNC stuff may
be close, but never identical. You have given us dimensions but have
not said what the tolerances are. That is, the range of internal
diameter, wall thickness, collar diameter and lengths. Be warned.
IMHO, as a newbie, you will be lucky to get within 3thou on any
dimension.

By now you will have either decided this is not for you or become
excited at the prospect of increasing the range of your skills.

As an alternative I am sure there are a number of skilled minilathe
owners with some time to spend to make or try to make these parts for
you for some recompence.

As I say.
One good turn deserves another.
Regards,
Ian


Tool post mods by "Driggars"

 

Hi, Clint. I just saw your drawings of the tool post modification in
the photos section. I have done this with a smaller post, except that
I used set screws (or grub screws, as our British brothers and sisters
call them) comming up from the bottom. To adjust, just undo the
retaining nut on top, lift up the post, back off the top screw
slightly, engage (run further in) the bottom screw tightly, and
replace the post as per normal. This sometimes take a few tries, but
once the height is achieved, all is well. Great drawings, by the way!.
Ron.


Re: A question on tapers

andrew franks
 

Thanks, Marcello - the Jacobs site told me all I needed to know
Andy..

"MZT.Groups" <mzt.groups@...> wrote:
> So, a drill chuck arbor is needed, MT2 for the tailstock and the same
(but shorter) to fit into the chuck. No suppliers seem to list an
arbor like that, but they do list MT2/B16 arbors. I've a vague idea
that a B16 taper is the same as the narrow end of a No. 2 Morse taper.
Is this right? I can't find specifications for "B series" tapers
anywhere.
Andy,

go to

< >

then select "Technical Support" on the menu on the left.

on the bottom of the following page there's a link to

Technical Information:
Download (pdf)

HTH
Marcello






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Re: Advice Sought for New User

Mike Payson
 

Would there be any benefit of a 6-jaw chuck in an application like this?

)

On 3/30/07, born4something <ajs@...> wrote:
Hi again Nicipi (is that your preferred handle?),

It's probably within the capabilities of these machines. More readily
so at just 1" length. You'll want a reasonably rigid toolpost so I
suggest you look at the lapping job that people do to these Asian
machines to improve that area.

I'd certainly use a mandrel as Mike suggested. Depending on your
tolerances and surface finish needs you may need to use a reamer but
that seems tedious for 100 items. They aren't cheap either but at
least it's not a 1-off. OTOH, you may be happy with just drilled and
bored.

At that length you may be able to avoid needing the tailstock and
centres. You're inside the usual 3 diameters rule of thumb BUT you're
going pretty thin walled and can't afford too much flex. You'll soon
figure out if the extra messing about with the T/S is worth it.

Something to note. 3-jaw chucks are not the most precise. Their design
is necessarily a compromise. Re-read Mike's suggested steps and you
will notice that the job is not removed from the chuck from beginning
to end. This negates the innacuracies of a 3-jaw. Your job will be
created true to spindle axis and remain that way - unless you're silly
enough to remove it and subsequently try to re-chuck it. You won't get
it back to the same axis again. The alternative is to use a 4-jaw
chuck and set up with a dial gauge. For your application I'd try to
stay with the 3-jaw. It's so much simpler to set up. I'm just making
sure you're aware of some of the hidden finnesse in Mike's method.
With planning, you should be able to nut out a 3-jaw method along the
lines Mike suggested.

John


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "nicipi" <nicipi@...> wrote:

Yes, this is essentially a thin wall tube. But I am after 1 inch
lengths in the end. And I need many - like 100. The dimensions are
very important, which is why I'm having trouble finding the tubing
that I need (McmasterCar, etc.) So my take from your concern is the
0.016 inch is not within the precision of a mini-lathe, or is not a
safe operation? Does having a short length like 1 inch seem more
reasonable to achieve this objective?



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Re: Tail Stock Cam Lock Kit installed!

 

TO help contain the dry dust, put a magnet in a baggie and locate it
near your cutting.


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "born4something" <ajs@...>
wrote:

Hi Vikki,

Don't feel too bad about that. A while back I made a similar
blunder.

I knew cast iron had a rather high carbon content (~5% from memory)
but had never machined it before. So I mounted up my brand new face
plate to give it an initial facing cut - to true it. Wanting a
decent finish I kept up a goodly supply of WD40 aerosol. On a 160mm
disk it flicked everywhere. I had a nice line up the splash guard,
up the wall behind, fell short of the ceiling, down the driver's
door on my wife's car, across the floor and up my shirt. It took
some cleaning up.

So there are at least two of us who will remember not to lubricate
cast iron next time!

John



--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Victoria Welch <wrlabs@>
wrote:

Hi Ian,

On Thursday 29 March 2007 17:51, steam4ian wrote:
G'day Vikki,
Well done.
Thanks!

Just one point; your annotations make reference to cutting oil.
Traditionally cast iron has been cut dry because it contains
carbon
particles which cause the chips to fracture into small
particles. You
will have observed that the chips form a paste with the cutting
fluid
very much like a grinding paste, this is exactly what it is and
it is
not good for your tools.
I was not aware of that. Yes, it was a goopy mess :-(.

I understand, but haven't seen, that production machining of
cast
iron uses an air blast to cool the tool and to remove the chips.
Once you get through the crust cast iron is great to machine
even if
it is dusty.
Unfortunately I am not going to be blowing anything around here,
looking
forward to moving to someplace where I can have a real shop
rather
than
a tarp covered (when working) spare bedroom in the apartment.

I learned something today, thank you Sir!

Take care, Vikki.


Re: circuit board diagram

Jim RabidWolf
 

These are paired in .66 ohms to give a 10 wat .33 ohm resistor - the
original they used is not longer in manufacture. This resistors are used in
current sense for the PWM.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "born4something" <ajs@...>
To: <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 2:07 AM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: circuit board diagram


Hi Ian,

66 ohms sounds a bit high. You may have tricked people with that
space between the R and 66. Electronics types often use the prefix
as a decimal point (like 1k2 means 1.2k-ohms) and when there is no
prefix they just insert the base symbol, R. So R66 is likely 0.66
ohms. It's a convenient notation and avoids using those little dots
that don't print clearly and are often multiplied when photocopying
stuff!

Check the other resistor. If it is 0.66 ohms I'd expect quite a
reasonable reading in circuit without even unsoldering it as the
surrounding components are unlikely to be anywhere near as low as
that. If they are, it's likely a failed FET or triac, depending on
your model.

John


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., andrew franks <andyf1108@...>
wrote:

Looks as though it might be: 5W = 5 watts, R66 = 66 ohm. Not sure
about the J, though - could represent a tolerance (as in plus or
minus a certain percentage from the marked resistance value).
However, 66 ohms isn't a standard "preffered" value - 68 ohms is,
though. Can you unsolder its twin, if it has identical markings, and
check it? If it is 66 ohms, you may have to use a couple of 33 ohm
ones, and connect them in series (though if you use 68 ohms, it's
probably close enough).
As to wattage, if you can't get 5 watts from Maplin or
somewhere, get the next size up.
I wonder what made it burn out, though? Hopefully, it was
something simple like a short circuit caused by swarf.
Andy
ftr1d <ian.fletcher@...> wrote:
Hi, I have just purchased a 240 volt Clarke 300m with a
dead circuit
board. A new board will cost ???85 so I am looking to repair it. The
only
fault I can see is a blown ceramic block, one of a pair, which is
marked 5WR 66J and is in R1 position on the board. I assume it is
a
creamic resistor? Does anyone have a circuit diagram or can give
me the
specification of the part. Thanks Ian






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Re: circuit board diagram

Jim RabidWolf
 

(Not to mention the fact the older boards actually had resistors that said
".66 Ohms" <G>)

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: circuit board diagram


On Friday 30 March 2007 06:47, Ed wrote:
I agree that it's .66 ohm. Although all manufacturers have their own
way of creating part numbers, they're all pretty consistent with
numbers to the right of R being decimal. If it was a 66 Ohm resistor
the part number would be 5W66RJ. Here's an excerpt from the Ohmite
catalog that tells you how to create their part numbers. The part
number for 5 watt .7 Ohm resistor would be 805FR70 - they just happen
to use F instead of W.
Of course,
R - means Ohm
k - means kilo Ohms (1 000 ohms)
M - means mega Ohms (1 000 000 ohms)

and because dot point is very small -:) this multipliers is used as dot
point

1R0 - 1.0 Ohm
1k0 - 1.0 kilo Ohm - 1 000 Ohm
R68 - 0.68 Ohm

!!! WARNING !!!
R may be used also as numbering on schematics eg. R33 - resistor number 33
numbering may be also printed on PCB, but not on components in this case
resistors.

New way of create value numbers is value folloved multiplier
If you see in resistor eg. 332 it's 33 * 10^2 = 3k3 (= 33 plus two zero),
this is typical for SMD resistors and resistors marked by color code

Radek


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Re: circuit board diagram

Jim RabidWolf
 

IT's A ROYAL PAIN is what it is <G>

Every time I look at one of those markings, I have to run thru it in my
head - USUALLY, I get it right, though one in a while CRS creeps in (and if
you don't get that treated, it turns into C.R.A.F.T.)

Just give me a color code, PLEASE!!! <G> Or spell it out...

Rabid
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed" <edo@...>
To: <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:47 PM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: circuit board diagram


I agree that it's .66 ohm. Although all manufacturers have their own
way of creating part numbers, they're all pretty consistent with
numbers to the right of R being decimal. If it was a 66 Ohm resistor
the part number would be 5W66RJ. Here's an excerpt from the Ohmite
catalog that tells you how to create their part numbers. The part
number for 5 watt .7 Ohm resistor would be 805FR70 - they just happen
to use F instead of W.

STANDARD PART NUMBERS FOR STANDARD RESISTANCE VALUES
Match value from "prefix" row with value from "suffix" column to
create part number.
---------------------------------------------
watts---> 5W 10W 25W 50W
prefix--> 805F-- 810F-- 825F-- 850F--
---------------------------------------------
ohms | suffix | availability (see key)
---------------------------------------------
0.005 ---R005 B B
0.010 ---R010 B B
0.025 ---R025 B B
0.1 ---R10 A A
0.3 ---R30 B C
---------------------------------------------
0.5 ---R50 B C
0.7 ---R70 C C
1.0 ---1R0 A A A A
1.5 ---1R5 C B
2.0 ---2R0 C B A A
---------------------------------------------
3.0 ---3R0 B B A A
4.0 ---4R0 C B
5.0 ---5R0 B A A B
10.0 ---10R B A A A
15.0 ---15R A B A A
---------------------------------------------
20 ---20R B A
25 ---25R B B B A
30 ---30R C C
40 ---40R C B
50 ---50R B B B A
---------------------------------------------
75 ---75R B C B A
100 ---100 B B B A
150 ---150 B B A A
200 ---200 C C B B
250 ---250 B B A B
---------------------------------------------
300 ---300 A C
400 ---400 C C
500 ---500 B C B A
750 ---750 C C A B
1,000 ---1K0 C B A B
---------------------------------------------
1,500 ---1K5 B C C A
2,000 ---2K0 B B C C
2,500 ---2K5 B B
3,000 ---3K0 C A B C
3,500 ---3K5 C C
---------------------------------------------
4,000 ---4K0 B B
4,500 ---4K5 C C
5,000 ---5K0 B B B B
6,000 ---6K0 C C
10,000 ---10K B C A B
---------------------------------------------



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