Thank you.
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Ian Newman <ian_new@...> wrote:
Hi Marcos,
You can index using the lathe and change wheels and also perform any milling required (with a bit of ingenuity).
The gears are simple and low precision and would be straight forward to make by hand, or you could buy a length of pinion wire and part off gears as required.
There is an automatic assumption that using a machine is the best or only way to make something - I have a lathe and a mill and use them when hand tools are not appropriate. It is often quicker to cut and file by hand than to set-up a job on a machine.
Look at what watchmakers produced with a pair of turns.....
All the best,
Ian.
On 9 Dec 2012, at 08:01, "Marcos" <stilettomantool@...> wrote:
Just a 7x16 lathe. I might have to save up for a mini mill.
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Aquila <myycc0q0@> wrote:
What machines do you have available?
Unless you intend filing the teeth by hand, a small mill and a rotary table are almost essential, and even then due to the size of the parts it will be tedious work.
Ideally a CNC mill with the rotab as the 4th axis would be best.
You could cut and size the parts on your lathe then transfer them to a chuck or collet on the rotab for correct indexing to a cutter on the mill.
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Andy's idea was the most interesting one I got (and my Logan DOES have an
H-shaped saddle, but with the inside corners cut off to get more clearance).
So I did an experiment, clamping a wooden stick in the Logan's 4-jaw chuck,
then rotating the spindle while tapped the stick out a little at a time to
see how far it could get from centerline before it hit anything. I found I
could get to 5 9/16" from the center before the stick made contact, and it
hit the tailstock V-way first, not the carriage. So my lathe is actually an
11 1/8" lathe rather than an 11" one and the design of the saddle is pretty
clever for turning large disks. And whatever the reason is that Logan
prohibits 10" face plates, hittling the saddle isn't it. (The other theory,
that a big face plate could develop enough inertia to come flying off, is
something I'll keep in mine, but not one I want to test).
But I'm not in the market for a 10" face plate anymore for a different
reason -- big face plates are hideously expensive on eBay, and I found this
8" one for a very good price [because it has a trivial amount of surface
rust]
Having an 8" face plate to play with means I don't need a bigger one right
now. And when I do, I have a 25 lb barbell plate that (with the help of
this 8" face plate) I could make into a 10" face plate (or maybe even an 11
1/4").
Mike Taglieri miket_nyc@...
Everyone has his reasons.
- Jean Renoir "The Rules of the Game"
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----- Original Message ----- From: "andyf1108" <andyf.1108@...> To: <7x12minilathe@...> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 9:24 AM Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: Face Plate Size?!?! Mike,
I'm unfamiliar with Logans, but if your saddle is H shaped, could it be
that the larger faceplate would foul its front arms if the facepate only
just cleared the bed?
Andy
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Michael Taglieri" <miket_nyc@...>
wrote:
I'm looking for a face plate for my 11" Logan, but I'm wondering why (in
the
Logan Lathe Accessories section of my Logan catalog), it says that the
10"
Logan face plate is "for 12" lathes only." The spindle threads of the
11"
and 12" lathes are identical, and it seems reasonable to have as big a
face
plate as possible on a lathe. So is there some particular reason why the
face plate for an 11" lathe can't be 10"?
Mike Taglieri miket_nyc@...
Everyone has his reasons.
- Jean Renoir "The Rules of the Game"
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dang, I guess that means I can't use a 3c collet in a 3AT adapter :-(? ? ? I found the angle's on the 'net....?? 3c uses a 30 degree angle and 3AT uses a 24degree angle ;-(????? .003 difference in threads isn't that bad, would be a loose thread but the shaft is the same size on both adapters... ? ? I suppose I should just suck it up and get the 3c adapter...? it's almost double the price of the AT adapter from what I've seen when shipping is added in though ;-( ? Mike B ?
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Michael Jablonski
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 7:00 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: 3mt to 3c adapter?? ? An "AT" taper is an "Atlas Taper." It is?different from a 3C in length (3C is longer)?and the O.D. for the thread diameter on the 3C is slightly larger by .003 inch even though the they both are 26 TPI. Here is a comparison?chart < ?>
Michael - USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux 7x16
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Exibar
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 2:44 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: 3mt to 3c adapter? ? can I use a 3c collet in one of those 3mt to 3AT adapters??? what's the difference between 3c and 3at?? ?As long as the collet allows me it insert a piece up to 2.5inches in length, I don't care about passing the work through the collet.... thanks! MikeB ? Hi Mert,
Yahoo does allow attachments, but doesn't check them for viruses, so for safety's sake the 7x12 Group doesn't permit them.
I have taken the liberty of opening an album in the group's Photos section, with the imaginative title of "Mert's Album", and have put your two pics in it. I hope this is OK; if not, please say so and I'll delete it.
If you approve, and ever want to add any further pics, send them to one of the moderators (John GadgetBuilder, Trevor Rymell or me) and we will then upload them for you. Pictures have to be sent to a moderator for inclusion in albums, to prevent anything unsuitable being uploaded.
Andy
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...> wrote:
>
> Oops! Yahoo doesn't allow attachments, I'll have to resend it direct, off
> list. Send me an email direct. >>mertbaker at verizon dot net<<
> Mert
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 7x12minilathe@...
> [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Exibar
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 8:15 PM
> To: 7x12minilathe@...
> Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Mert!
>
> Yah, that would be great if you wouldn't mind? The only thing I like
> more than tools are making tools for myself ;-)
>
>
>
> I found an adapter for $35, is that a good price? Maybe the reason I
> like making my on tools is because I realy DON"T like the look my wife gives
> me when I buy them! LOL :-)
>
>
>
> thanks!
>
> Mike B
>
>
>
> From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
> On Behalf Of MERTON B BAKER
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 4:18 AM
> To: 7x12minilathe@...
> Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
>
>
>
>
>
> Wow! Boy, can I read that without my glasses! You can make a closer and
> drawtube for 3-C collets right on the 7x, if you want. I can send you pix
> of the one I made.
>
>
>
> Mert
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 7x12minilathe@...
> [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Exibar
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:11 PM
> To: 7x12minilathe@...
> Subject: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
>
> If I were to purchase this adapter:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> from LMS to convert 3MT to 3C, what else would I need other than that
> adapter?
>
>
>
> I'd like to use a factory made 1/4" hex collet, and I can only find
> them in 3c. which isn't too bad in cost, about $12. The adapter is $60,
> which is a bit steep, but maybe workable with wife's permission..... I'm
> just wondering if there is anything else that I'd need? the LMS site
> doesn't have anything else on there :-(
>
>
>
> anyone have one of the adapters they're not using and would like to
> sell? :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> thanks!
>
> Mike B
>
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I agree, I think the tube is spun.? They have to keep things simple and cheap.? I would spin it while the two rings are at one end, then clean up the surface where the ring gear will be.? Then slide it in place and install the small gears. ?Unfortunately I don¡¯t see this as an easy project, for everything would have to be made of stainless.? Given the exposure a ring sees to body oils, etc, I don¡¯t think other metals, other than say 14k gold, would stay ?attractive looking ?over the long term. ?
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Jerry Durand
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 3:32 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Mechanical Ring? ? On 12/09/2012 12:01 PM, MERTON B BAKER wrote: Okay, then what holds 'em on, then? ?
Flared ends on the tubes.
-- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.? tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype:? jerrydurand
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I
can't seem to find anything that show the actual taper angle for an Atlas Taper
so it could be compared to a 3C, but I believe they are different. Back then
everybody wanted you to have to buy their tooling to work with their machines.
Michael - USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux
7x16
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can I use a
3c collet in one of those 3mt to 3AT adapters??? what's the
difference between 3c and 3at?? ?As long as the collet allows me it
insert a piece up to 2.5inches in length, I don't care about passing the work
through the collet....
thanks!
MikeB
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of
andyf1108
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 5:58 AM
To:
7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: 3mt to 3c
adapter?
?
Hi Mert,
Yahoo does allow attachments, but doesn't check them for
viruses, so for safety's sake the 7x12 Group doesn't permit them.
I
have taken the liberty of opening an album in the group's Photos section, with
the imaginative title of "Mert's Album", and have put your two pics in it. I
hope this is OK; if not, please say so and I'll delete it.
If you
approve, and ever want to add any further pics, send them to one of the
moderators (John GadgetBuilder, Trevor Rymell or me) and we will then upload
them for you. Pictures have to be sent to a moderator for inclusion in albums,
to prevent anything unsuitable being uploaded.
Andy
--- In 7x12minilathe@...,
"MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...>
wrote:
>
> Oops! Yahoo doesn't allow attachments, I'll have to
resend it direct, off
> list. Send me an email direct. >>mertbaker
at verizon dot net<<
> Mert
>
>
>
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: 7x12minilathe@...
>
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On
Behalf Of Exibar
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 8:15 PM
> To:
7x12minilathe@...
>
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Mert!
>
> Yah, that would be great
if you wouldn't mind? The only thing I like
> more than tools are making
tools for myself ;-)
>
>
>
> I found an adapter for
$35, is that a good price? Maybe the reason I
> like making my on tools
is because I realy DON"T like the look my wife gives
> me when I buy
them! LOL :-)
>
>
>
> thanks!
>
> Mike
B
>
>
>
> From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
>
On Behalf Of MERTON B BAKER
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 4:18
AM
> To: 7x12minilathe@...
>
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
>
>
>
>
>
> Wow! Boy, can I read that without my glasses! You
can make a closer and
> drawtube for 3-C collets right on the 7x, if you
want. I can send you pix
> of the one I made.
>
>
>
> Mert
>
>
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: 7x12minilathe@...
>
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On
Behalf Of Exibar
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:11 PM
> To:
7x12minilathe@...
>
Subject: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
>
> If I were to
purchase this adapter:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> from LMS to convert 3MT to 3C, what else would I
need other than that
> adapter?
>
>
>
> I'd
like to use a factory made 1/4" hex collet, and I can only find
> them
in 3c. which isn't too bad in cost, about $12. The adapter is $60,
>
which is a bit steep, but maybe workable with wife's permission.....
I'm
> just wondering if there is anything else that I'd need? the LMS
site
> doesn't have anything else on there :-(
>
>
>
> anyone have one of the adapters they're not using and would like
to
> sell? :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
thanks!
>
> Mike B
>
|
An
"AT" taper is an "Atlas Taper." It is?different from a 3C in length (3C is
longer)?and the O.D. for the thread diameter on the 3C is slightly larger
by .003 inch even though the they both are 26 TPI.
?
Here
is a comparison?chart < ?>
Michael - USA
Micro-Mark MicroLux
7x16
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can I use a
3c collet in one of those 3mt to 3AT adapters??? what's the
difference between 3c and 3at?? ?As long as the collet allows me it
insert a piece up to 2.5inches in length, I don't care about passing the work
through the collet....
thanks!
MikeB
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of
andyf1108
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 5:58 AM
To:
7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: 3mt to 3c
adapter?
?
Hi Mert,
Yahoo does allow attachments, but doesn't check them for
viruses, so for safety's sake the 7x12 Group doesn't permit them.
I
have taken the liberty of opening an album in the group's Photos section, with
the imaginative title of "Mert's Album", and have put your two pics in it. I
hope this is OK; if not, please say so and I'll delete it.
If you
approve, and ever want to add any further pics, send them to one of the
moderators (John GadgetBuilder, Trevor Rymell or me) and we will then upload
them for you. Pictures have to be sent to a moderator for inclusion in albums,
to prevent anything unsuitable being uploaded.
Andy
--- In 7x12minilathe@...,
"MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...>
wrote:
>
> Oops! Yahoo doesn't allow attachments, I'll have to
resend it direct, off
> list. Send me an email direct. >>mertbaker
at verizon dot net<<
> Mert
>
>
>
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: 7x12minilathe@...
>
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On
Behalf Of Exibar
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 8:15 PM
> To:
7x12minilathe@...
>
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Mert!
>
> Yah, that would be great
if you wouldn't mind? The only thing I like
> more than tools are making
tools for myself ;-)
>
>
>
> I found an adapter for
$35, is that a good price? Maybe the reason I
> like making my on tools
is because I realy DON"T like the look my wife gives
> me when I buy
them! LOL :-)
>
>
>
> thanks!
>
> Mike
B
>
>
>
> From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
>
On Behalf Of MERTON B BAKER
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 4:18
AM
> To: 7x12minilathe@...
>
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
>
>
>
>
>
> Wow! Boy, can I read that without my glasses! You
can make a closer and
> drawtube for 3-C collets right on the 7x, if you
want. I can send you pix
> of the one I made.
>
>
>
> Mert
>
>
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: 7x12minilathe@...
>
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On
Behalf Of Exibar
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:11 PM
> To:
7x12minilathe@...
>
Subject: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
>
> If I were to
purchase this adapter:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> from LMS to convert 3MT to 3C, what else would I
need other than that
> adapter?
>
>
>
> I'd
like to use a factory made 1/4" hex collet, and I can only find
> them
in 3c. which isn't too bad in cost, about $12. The adapter is $60,
>
which is a bit steep, but maybe workable with wife's permission.....
I'm
> just wondering if there is anything else that I'd need? the LMS
site
> doesn't have anything else on there :-(
>
>
>
> anyone have one of the adapters they're not using and would like
to
> sell? :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
thanks!
>
> Mike B
>
|
Flange at each end.? The ring body is in two pieces, the gears are slipped on and the body pressed together.? ? The gears are pretty loose, probably the only precise bit is where the two ring body halves press together. ? Tony ? ? ? Okay, then what holds 'em on, then?
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Tony Smith
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 10:05 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Mechanical Ring The toothed bits move independently of the ring body, no need for solder. ? Tony ? ? ? I would make the toothed rings in two pieces. First, cut the teeth across the end of a tube (with an even number of teeth you could cut right across and cut opposite teeth in a single operation) Then solder/braze/sweat the toothed ring over a smaller tube which would form the main body of the part. Ian
On 9 Dec 2012, at 10:42, "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...> wrote: ? And I wouldn't run my fingers thru the hair on my head, wearing one of those
either. Looks like an excellent device for testing Murphy's Law. How
would you cut the ring gears?
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Jerry Durand
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 10:37 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Mechanical Ring
I showed the videos to my wife who said "I hope you don't have hairy
fingers!"
ouch!
--
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype: jerrydurand
------------------------------------
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can I use a 3c collet in one of those 3mt to 3AT adapters??? what's the difference between 3c and 3at?? ?As long as the collet allows me it insert a piece up to 2.5inches in length, I don't care about passing the work through the collet.... ? thanks! MikeB ?
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From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of andyf1108
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 5:58 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: 3mt to 3c adapter?? ? Hi Mert,
Yahoo does allow attachments, but doesn't check them for viruses, so for safety's sake the 7x12 Group doesn't permit them.
I have taken the liberty of opening an album in the group's Photos section, with the imaginative title of "Mert's Album", and have put your two pics in it. I hope this is OK; if not, please say so and I'll delete it.
If you approve, and ever want to add any further pics, send them to one of the moderators (John GadgetBuilder, Trevor Rymell or me) and we will then upload them for you. Pictures have to be sent to a moderator for inclusion in albums, to prevent anything unsuitable being uploaded.
Andy
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...> wrote:
>
> Oops! Yahoo doesn't allow attachments, I'll have to resend it direct, off
> list. Send me an email direct. >>mertbaker at verizon dot net<<
> Mert
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 7x12minilathe@...
> [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Exibar
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 8:15 PM
> To: 7x12minilathe@...
> Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Mert!
>
> Yah, that would be great if you wouldn't mind? The only thing I like
> more than tools are making tools for myself ;-)
>
>
>
> I found an adapter for $35, is that a good price? Maybe the reason I
> like making my on tools is because I realy DON"T like the look my wife gives
> me when I buy them! LOL :-)
>
>
>
> thanks!
>
> Mike B
>
>
>
> From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
> On Behalf Of MERTON B BAKER
> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 4:18 AM
> To: 7x12minilathe@...
> Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
>
>
>
>
>
> Wow! Boy, can I read that without my glasses! You can make a closer and
> drawtube for 3-C collets right on the 7x, if you want. I can send you pix
> of the one I made.
>
>
>
> Mert
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 7x12minilathe@...
> [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Exibar
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:11 PM
> To: 7x12minilathe@...
> Subject: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
>
> If I were to purchase this adapter:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> from LMS to convert 3MT to 3C, what else would I need other than that
> adapter?
>
>
>
> I'd like to use a factory made 1/4" hex collet, and I can only find
> them in 3c. which isn't too bad in cost, about $12. The adapter is $60,
> which is a bit steep, but maybe workable with wife's permission..... I'm
> just wondering if there is anything else that I'd need? the LMS site
> doesn't have anything else on there :-(
>
>
>
> anyone have one of the adapters they're not using and would like to
> sell? :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> thanks!
>
> Mike B
>
|
?
Die cast makes a LOT more
sense.
?
Mert
?
Hi Mert,
I think a production item would use a
diecast component, not try to machine the shape from the
solid.
All the best,
Ian
--- On Sun, 9/12/12,
MERTON B BAKER wrote:
From:
MERTON B BAKER
Subject: RE:
[7x12minilathe] Mechanical Ring
To:
7x12minilathe@...
Date: Sunday, 9 December, 2012,
19:59
?
That's possibly the way they were
made, but If so, the seam is undetectable.? Maybe pressed
on?? There's not much force involved here.
?
Mert
?
Hi Mert,
I would make the toothed rings in two pieces.
First, cut the teeth across the end of a tube (with an even
number of teeth you could cut right across and cut opposite teeth in
a single operation)
Then solder/braze/sweat the toothed ring over a smaller tube
which would form the main body of the part.
All the best,
Ian On 9 Dec 2012, at 10:42, "MERTON B BAKER" < mertbaker@...>
wrote:
?
And I wouldn't run my fingers thru the hair on my head, wearing
one of those
either. Looks like an excellent device for testing
Murphy's Law. How
would you cut the ring
gears?
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On
Behalf Of Jerry Durand
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 10:37
PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject:
Re: [7x12minilathe] Mechanical Ring
I showed the videos to
my wife who said "I hope you don't have
hairy
fingers!"
ouch!
--
Jerry Durand, Durand
Interstellar, Inc.
tel: +1 408
356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype:
jerrydurand
------------------------------------
Yahoo!
Groups Links
|
|
Hi Mert,
I think a production item would use a diecast component, not try to machine the shape from the solid.
All the best,
Ian
|
--- On Sun, 9/12/12, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
From: MERTON B BAKER
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Mechanical Ring
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Date: Sunday, 9 December, 2012, 19:59
?
That's possibly the way they were made, but If so,
the seam is undetectable.? Maybe pressed on?? There's not much force
involved here.
?
Mert
?
Hi Mert,
I would make the toothed rings in two pieces.
First, cut the teeth across the end of a tube (with an even number of
teeth you could cut right across and cut opposite teeth in a single
operation)
Then solder/braze/sweat the toothed ring over a smaller tube which would
form the main body of the part.
All the best,
Ian On 9 Dec 2012, at 10:42, "MERTON B BAKER" < mertbaker@...>
wrote:
?
And I wouldn't run my fingers thru the hair on my head, wearing one of
those
either. Looks like an excellent device for testing Murphy's Law.
How
would you cut the ring gears?
Mert
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Re: [7x12minilathe] Mechanical Ring
I showed the videos to my wife
who said "I hope you don't have
hairy
fingers!"
ouch!
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On 12/09/2012 12:01 PM, MERTON B BAKER wrote:
Okay, then what holds
'em on, then?
?
Mert
Flared ends on the tubes.
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Okay, then what holds 'em on,
then?
?
Mert
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The
toothed bits move independently of the ring body, no need for
solder.
?
Tony
?
?
?
I would make the toothed rings in two
pieces.
First, cut the teeth across the end of a tube (with an even
number of teeth you could cut right across and cut opposite teeth in a single
operation)
Then solder/braze/sweat the toothed ring over a smaller
tube which would form the main body of the part.
Ian
On 9 Dec 2012, at
10:42, "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...>
wrote:
?
And I wouldn't run my fingers thru the hair
on my head, wearing one of those
either. Looks like an excellent device
for testing Murphy's Law. How
would you cut the ring
gears?
Mert
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From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On
Behalf Of Jerry Durand
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 10:37 PM
To:
7x12minilathe@...
Subject:
Re: [7x12minilathe] Mechanical Ring
I showed the videos to my wife
who said "I hope you don't have
hairy
fingers!"
ouch!
--
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That's possibly the way they were made, but If so,
the seam is undetectable.? Maybe pressed on?? There's not much force
involved here.
?
Mert
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Hi Mert,
I would make the toothed rings in two pieces.
First, cut the teeth across the end of a tube (with an even number of
teeth you could cut right across and cut opposite teeth in a single
operation)
Then solder/braze/sweat the toothed ring over a smaller tube which would
form the main body of the part.
All the best,
Ian On 9 Dec 2012, at 10:42, "MERTON B BAKER" < mertbaker@...>
wrote:
?
And I wouldn't run my fingers thru the hair on my head, wearing one of
those
either. Looks like an excellent device for testing Murphy's Law.
How
would you cut the ring gears?
Mert
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From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On
Behalf Of Jerry Durand
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 10:37 PM
To:
7x12minilathe@...
Subject:
Re: [7x12minilathe] Mechanical Ring
I showed the videos to my wife
who said "I hope you don't have
hairy
fingers!"
ouch!
--
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Interstellar, Inc.
tel: +1 408
356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
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Re: Bearing seal for front tapered roller bearing?
Thanks, John
Dick
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "GadgetBuilder" <John@...> wrote:
In the Files section see the zip file near the end titled:
tapered-roller-bearing.zip
This contains a description of the bearing change process, including pictures and a description of how to make seals.
John
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Dick" <old_toolmaker@> wrote:
I am installing tapered roller bearings in my 7x lathe headstock. In reading various postings on the subject I have noted that some people have used o rings and some have used automotive gasket material to prevent swarf from reaching the unsealed front bearing. I have been considering using a felt wiper gasket under the bearing cover.
I welcome input on this topic and look forward to hearing about how you have addressed this issue.
Thanks
Dick
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Hi Ian,
I haven't looked real closely at the design, but I wonder if one could cut across the end of a solid round with a single tooth gear cutter, keeping in mind your idea of an even number of teeth, and then bore it out, turn the outside to the desired shape, then part it off to avoid having to solder or braze (?). Just a thought.
Frank
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Ian 1 <ian_new@...> wrote:
Hi Mert,
I would make the toothed rings in two pieces.
First, cut the teeth across the end of a tube (with an even number of teeth you could cut right across and cut opposite teeth in a single operation)
Then solder/braze/sweat the toothed ring over a smaller tube which would form the main body of the part.
All the best,
Ian
On 9 Dec 2012, at 10:42, "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...> wrote:
And I wouldn't run my fingers thru the hair on my head, wearing one of those
either. Looks like an excellent device for testing Murphy's Law. How
would you cut the ring gears?
Mert
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From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Jerry Durand
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 10:37 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Mechanical Ring
I showed the videos to my wife who said "I hope you don't have hairy
fingers!"
ouch!
--
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The toothed bits move independently of the ring body, no need for solder. ? Tony ? ? ? I would make the toothed rings in two pieces. First, cut the teeth across the end of a tube (with an even number of teeth you could cut right across and cut opposite teeth in a single operation) Then solder/braze/sweat the toothed ring over a smaller tube which would form the main body of the part.
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On 9 Dec 2012, at 10:42, "MERTON B BAKER" < mertbaker@...> wrote: ? And I wouldn't run my fingers thru the hair on my head, wearing one of those
either. Looks like an excellent device for testing Murphy's Law. How
would you cut the ring gears?
Mert
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From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Jerry Durand
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 10:37 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Mechanical Ring
I showed the videos to my wife who said "I hope you don't have hairy
fingers!"
ouch!
--
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Hi Mert,
I would make the toothed rings in two pieces.
First, cut the teeth across the end of a tube (with an even number of teeth you could cut right across and cut opposite teeth in a single operation)
Then solder/braze/sweat the toothed ring over a smaller tube which would form the main body of the part.
All the best, Ian
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On 9 Dec 2012, at 10:42, "MERTON B BAKER" < mertbaker@...> wrote:
?
And I wouldn't run my fingers thru the hair on my head, wearing one of those
either. Looks like an excellent device for testing Murphy's Law. How
would you cut the ring gears?
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Jerry Durand
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 10:37 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Mechanical Ring
I showed the videos to my wife who said "I hope you don't have hairy
fingers!"
ouch!
--
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Thanks, Andy. Feel free to add any of the pics I send to my "Album".
Mert
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-----Original Message----- From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of andyf1108 Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 5:58 AM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: 3mt to 3c adapter? Hi Mert, Yahoo does allow attachments, but doesn't check them for viruses, so for safety's sake the 7x12 Group doesn't permit them. I have taken the liberty of opening an album in the group's Photos section, with the imaginative title of "Mert's Album", and have put your two pics in it. I hope this is OK; if not, please say so and I'll delete it. If you approve, and ever want to add any further pics, send them to one of the moderators (John GadgetBuilder, Trevor Rymell or me) and we will then upload them for you. Pictures have to be sent to a moderator for inclusion in albums, to prevent anything unsuitable being uploaded. Andy --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...> wrote:
Oops! Yahoo doesn't allow attachments, I'll have to resend it direct, off
list. Send me an email direct. >>mertbaker at verizon dot net<<
Mert
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From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Exibar
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 8:15 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
Hi Mert!
Yah, that would be great if you wouldn't mind? The only thing I like
more than tools are making tools for myself ;-)
I found an adapter for $35, is that a good price? Maybe the reason I
like making my on tools is because I realy DON"T like the look my wife
gives me when I buy them! LOL :-)
thanks!
Mike B
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of MERTON B BAKER
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 4:18 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
Wow! Boy, can I read that without my glasses! You can make a closer and drawtube for 3-C collets right on the 7x, if you want. I can send you pix
of the one I made.
Mert
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Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:11 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
If I were to purchase this adapter:
from LMS to convert 3MT to 3C, what else would I need other than that
adapter?
I'd like to use a factory made 1/4" hex collet, and I can only find
them in 3c. which isn't too bad in cost, about $12. The adapter is $60,
which is a bit steep, but maybe workable with wife's permission..... I'm
just wondering if there is anything else that I'd need? the LMS site
doesn't have anything else on there :-(
anyone have one of the adapters they're not using and would like to
sell? :-)
thanks!
Mike B
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Hi Mert,
Yahoo does allow attachments, but doesn't check them for viruses, so for safety's sake the 7x12 Group doesn't permit them.
I have taken the liberty of opening an album in the group's Photos section, with the imaginative title of "Mert's Album", and have put your two pics in it. I hope this is OK; if not, please say so and I'll delete it.
If you approve, and ever want to add any further pics, send them to one of the moderators (John GadgetBuilder, Trevor Rymell or me) and we will then upload them for you. Pictures have to be sent to a moderator for inclusion in albums, to prevent anything unsuitable being uploaded.
Andy
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--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "MERTON B BAKER" <mertbaker@...> wrote:
Oops! Yahoo doesn't allow attachments, I'll have to resend it direct, off
list. Send me an email direct. >>mertbaker at verizon dot net<<
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Exibar
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 8:15 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
Hi Mert!
Yah, that would be great if you wouldn't mind? The only thing I like
more than tools are making tools for myself ;-)
I found an adapter for $35, is that a good price? Maybe the reason I
like making my on tools is because I realy DON"T like the look my wife gives
me when I buy them! LOL :-)
thanks!
Mike B
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
On Behalf Of MERTON B BAKER
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 4:18 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
Wow! Boy, can I read that without my glasses! You can make a closer and
drawtube for 3-C collets right on the 7x, if you want. I can send you pix
of the one I made.
Mert
-----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Exibar
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:11 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] 3mt to 3c adapter?
If I were to purchase this adapter:
from LMS to convert 3MT to 3C, what else would I need other than that
adapter?
I'd like to use a factory made 1/4" hex collet, and I can only find
them in 3c. which isn't too bad in cost, about $12. The adapter is $60,
which is a bit steep, but maybe workable with wife's permission..... I'm
just wondering if there is anything else that I'd need? the LMS site
doesn't have anything else on there :-(
anyone have one of the adapters they're not using and would like to
sell? :-)
thanks!
Mike B
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And I wouldn't run my fingers thru the hair on my head, wearing one of those
either. Looks like an excellent device for testing Murphy's Law. How
would you cut the ring gears?
Mert
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From: 7x12minilathe@...
[mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Jerry Durand
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 10:37 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Mechanical Ring
I showed the videos to my wife who said "I hope you don't have hairy
fingers!"
ouch!
--
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tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
Skype: jerrydurand
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