¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Thanks for the input. It looks easier than I thought it would be. Might
have to give it try this summer. Kevin.


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Goat!" <goat@...> wrote:

Actually, it might make a pretty good start.
Here is a couple links to get you started,
though you can build a bit larger to even do a coke
fired to do iron.




Doesn't look very budget to me,
but it has been a while since I priced any of this.



This one looks like a good one. Even better then the book I had

originally,

and I might give his ideas some try myself.


Goat

kevin wrote:

A few weeks ago there was some talk about melting aluminum cans and
making your own bar stock. I was wondering what you would use for a
heat source. I'm pretty sure I can't use my propane turkey frier.
thanks, Kevin.

Thanks Roy,

John


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "roylowenthal"
<roylowenthal@...> wrote:

It's a pneumatic gizmo that supplies a water based spray thru a

small

nozzle. The nozzle is adjustable for amount of water, there's an
overall volume adjuster on top of the tank. The orange block

looking

thing on top of the tank contains a small eductor to lift the

liquid

from the tank. The hose leading to the nozzle is actually 2
concentric hoses, liquid in the inner one, air in the outer one.

<
33100A/SEARCH:CATEGORY/Y/product.html>

I'd forgotten, LMS offers a more reasonably priced similar item.

<
ProductID=2226>


Having played with a HF cheap airbrush, I think it can be adjusted

to

provide a similar function. The genuine one has a wide adjustment
range; I've used mine set "wet" to cut ceramic tile with a diamond
blade on my radial arm saw. For normal grinding, you can set it
fairly dry & still get good cooling.

Roy

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "born4something" <ajs@>
wrote:

Hi Roy,

For the benefit of this colonist, can you describe the Kool-Mist

in

a little more detail please? Sounds interesting. I assume it's a
fine spray of continuous cooling. Is it something I could

readily

rig off my air comp? Assuming I can't get to play with an

original,

what essentials do I need to know?

Thanks,
John


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "roylowenthal"
<roylowenthal@> wrote:

If you ever have the chance to use a Kool-Mist, you'll never

go

back

to a cup of water! Now that cheapie air brushes are easy to

come

by,

it's easy enough to modify one to impersonate a Kool-Mist at a

tiny

fraction of the price.

Roy

The vertical shear tool is a big help in providing a nice finish -
works on steel and most other metals. See FinishTool in the 7x12
Files. The tool is fairly quick and easy to grind, height adjustment
is not critical (as it is with most tool shapes).

John



--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "timbaker416" <timbaker416@...>
wrote:

Hi all. Sorry, but I have a newbie question. I have been messing
around with the new lathe for about a week now and so far I am quite
pleased. My question is what is the recomended way to put a fine
finishing cut on regular cold rolled steel? (I can get a finish on
aluminum that is fantastic) I am in the process of putting a hand
wheel on the lead screw and I am sure this will help but is there any
preferred speed, feed or lubricant? I am pretty sure that the lathe is
in order and the operator needs adjustment! Thanks in advance!

Tim B.

No, it's not. Once you heat brass above its alpha transition temp it
doesn't matter how it's cooled. It's not like steel where there's an
elaborate phase diagram to show how to heat treat it. The only way
to harden brass is to mechanically deform it, heating it will only
soften it. Quenching may warp it, usually makes the scale flake
off. FWIW, I usually just play a torch flame on small pieces lying
on a refractory brick & let everything air cool.

Roy

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "born4something" <ajs@...>
wrote:

Curiousity question: Is the quenching needed?

AFAIK people only quench brass and copper because they can. Steel
would harden but brass and copper don't. So quenching is the
quickest way to get things cool enough to proceed. However, surely

a

rapid quench is also liable to induce distortions. I know it's then
softer so any distortions can be readily fixed. But if I was really
worried about shape, why would I quench brass or copper?

John


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "drmico60" <mikey.cox@>
wrote:

You need to anneal the brass before machining to take the

internal

stress out of the brass bar. To do this simly heat the brass to

dull

red heat and quench in water.
Kind regards
Mike
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Pigi <pigi@> wrote:

Hi all,
I'm not sure if this is OT, but I don't think, being that is

lathe

improvement related.

I was trying to build the tapered gibs to improve my 7x10

lathe,

but I'm

having problem ( lot of ) with the brass warpage.

When ever I give a pass with my mill, the brass gib become more

and

more

distorced.

So the question is: what could be the best way to machine those

gibs to

reduce the warpage ?

T.I.A.

Pigi

Hi all. Sorry, but I have a newbie question. I have been messing
around with the new lathe for about a week now and so far I am quite
pleased. My question is what is the recomended way to put a fine
finishing cut on regular cold rolled steel? (I can get a finish on
aluminum that is fantastic) I am in the process of putting a hand
wheel on the lead screw and I am sure this will help but is there any
preferred speed, feed or lubricant? I am pretty sure that the lathe is
in order and the operator needs adjustment! Thanks in advance!

Tim B.

It's a pneumatic gizmo that supplies a water based spray thru a small
nozzle. The nozzle is adjustable for amount of water, there's an
overall volume adjuster on top of the tank. The orange block looking
thing on top of the tank contains a small eductor to lift the liquid
from the tank. The hose leading to the nozzle is actually 2
concentric hoses, liquid in the inner one, air in the outer one.

<
33100A/SEARCH:CATEGORY/Y/product.html>

I'd forgotten, LMS offers a more reasonably priced similar item.

<
ProductID=2226>


Having played with a HF cheap airbrush, I think it can be adjusted to
provide a similar function. The genuine one has a wide adjustment
range; I've used mine set "wet" to cut ceramic tile with a diamond
blade on my radial arm saw. For normal grinding, you can set it
fairly dry & still get good cooling.

Roy

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "born4something" <ajs@...>
wrote:

Hi Roy,

For the benefit of this colonist, can you describe the Kool-Mist in
a little more detail please? Sounds interesting. I assume it's a
fine spray of continuous cooling. Is it something I could readily
rig off my air comp? Assuming I can't get to play with an original,
what essentials do I need to know?

Thanks,
John


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "roylowenthal"
<roylowenthal@> wrote:

If you ever have the chance to use a Kool-Mist, you'll never go

back

to a cup of water! Now that cheapie air brushes are easy to come

by,

it's easy enough to modify one to impersonate a Kool-Mist at a

tiny

fraction of the price.

Roy

Hi,

Sounds good to me - I'll call them tomorrow and see if they will let me order a 8x12 - just to see what happens.

Take care,
DBN

oneacmename <daniel@...> wrote:
Well I think there are 3 types of items.
Store items, Web only items, and special order items.
I think all items can be ordered off the web tho.

The store can only directly order "special order" items.
The 8x12 is a special order item. The 93885 you mentioned earlier may
be a web only item or a special order item. I don't know I didn't
notice it in the special order book, I wasn't looking for it tho.

I do know they did accept my special order with the coupon and all I
can do is hope it gets fulfilled.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@...>
wrote:

Hi,

Yes, point well-taken. The issue here is that since the 8x12

lathe is also a catalog/website only item and it seems that a store
took the orders... So, I am wondering what if the "service" will
apply to other items or did by chance the store make an error and
will refund the money?

I guess we will find out soon in the continuing saga of "Will HF

actually fulfill the order...?"

Take care,
DBN

oneacmename <daniel@...> wrote:
Ahh yes thats correct some items are web only, the stores

have no way

to order... Actually the local stores can't order anything from

what

im told other than special order items, they just have to wait to

see

what they are getting in.

There is usually a little book that has the items they can order in
it, or just give them part numbers and they can look it up.
There are a number of things that I'm ordering right now that are

web

only purchases.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@>
wrote:

Hi,

The stores over here are closed now but I'll do the research for

the future.

I aksed if they carry the item (I was looking for a milling

machine 93885) and if not would they special order it...? The
responses (I tried two stores) paraphrased, the item is not in the
computer, we don't carry it and we can't order it.

That said, HF is starting to advertise where they will ship items

to stores for local pick up and maybe some of the more interesting
items might be made available. I only wish my local stores were a
bit more cooperative.

Take care and THANKS!
DBN



oneacmename <daniel@> wrote:
The north store in Austin, Texas

The guy kinda looked at it weird so I told him, that someone I

knew

came there and bought one no problem. He said on hold on and went

to

talk to someone, he came back and rang it up no problem.
They get a commission off the extended service plan things so if

you

mention that you want one then maybe they will work harder to

make

sure it rings up. He however had no problem ringing it up using

the

coupon I gave him.

If I were you and the store isn't too far I would go up there and
just hand them the coupon and the paper you have to fill out. If

they

say anything mention that it is a store item and your buying it

from

the store but its just not there because its a special order...

If

that fails maybe the extended service may convince... Think its

about

120 for 2 years or something like that. So that takes it back up

to

the original sale price I think but you have the service...

No Idea if this will work but thats what I would do. Worth a shot.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@>
wrote:

Hi,

Most excellent - I just called my local HF store and they said

NO, quite clearly and without hesitation. I was looking for the
milling machine # 93885.

If you don't mind mentioning - which store let you make the

purchase?

Take care,
DBN



houe2005 <houe2005@> wrote:
At the harbor freight I went to I was able to special

order the 8x12

at the store. They had this little stand with a few larger

items

in

a

book and you just fill out a form and then ring it up at the

cashier

like a regular item. Doing this I was able to use the 30%

coupon

on

the 8x12 lathe. They said it should take 7-10 days to arrive.

I'm

looking forward to it. $385 + tax.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "David Robertson"
<davidr415@> wrote:

No.. you are right.. they don?€?t sell in stores. I forgot.



David



_____

From: 7x12minilathe@...

[mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Druid Noibn

Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:58 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] HF 30% off coupon



Hi David,

THANKS - I didn't get this one.

As for the 8x12 - sorry, that lathe is not sold in the

stores -

only

on-line or via a catalog purchase. Well, at least that is what

the

stores tell me and I checked all the ones in a 200+ radius of

the

NYC

area. Do they sell it in the stores by you?

Again - THANKS!
DBN

David Robertson <davidr415@yahoo. <mailto:davidr415%

40yahoo.com>

com> wrote:

Hi all,

I got a HF 30% off coupon that is good thru Monday. It is a

scan

of

a print coupon. I used it today at a Harbor Freight store in

North

Austin, TX. It scanned and gave the 30% discount on a micro
mill/drill. They seemed to have no problem with it being a

copy.

You can get it at the following web address:

.

<>
slickdeals.net/showthread.php?threadid=466706

The lady there also told me you can get rain checks on items

and

have the coupon attached to the rain check if your particular

item

is

out of stock.

This is an in store coupon. Not an online coupon.

This could take the sting out of an 8x12 that is no longer on

sale!!!

David

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Good question. I wondered about the quenching also.

Rick

Well I think there are 3 types of items.
Store items, Web only items, and special order items.
I think all items can be ordered off the web tho.

The store can only directly order "special order" items.
The 8x12 is a special order item. The 93885 you mentioned earlier may
be a web only item or a special order item. I don't know I didn't
notice it in the special order book, I wasn't looking for it tho.

I do know they did accept my special order with the coupon and all I
can do is hope it gets fulfilled.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@...>
wrote:

Hi,

Yes, point well-taken. The issue here is that since the 8x12

lathe is also a catalog/website only item and it seems that a store
took the orders... So, I am wondering what if the "service" will
apply to other items or did by chance the store make an error and
will refund the money?

I guess we will find out soon in the continuing saga of "Will HF

actually fulfill the order...?"

Take care,
DBN

oneacmename <daniel@...> wrote:
Ahh yes thats correct some items are web only, the stores

have no way

to order... Actually the local stores can't order anything from

what

im told other than special order items, they just have to wait to

see

what they are getting in.

There is usually a little book that has the items they can order in
it, or just give them part numbers and they can look it up.
There are a number of things that I'm ordering right now that are

web

only purchases.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@>
wrote:

Hi,

The stores over here are closed now but I'll do the research for

the future.

I aksed if they carry the item (I was looking for a milling

machine 93885) and if not would they special order it...? The
responses (I tried two stores) paraphrased, the item is not in the
computer, we don't carry it and we can't order it.

That said, HF is starting to advertise where they will ship items

to stores for local pick up and maybe some of the more interesting
items might be made available. I only wish my local stores were a
bit more cooperative.

Take care and THANKS!
DBN



oneacmename <daniel@> wrote:
The north store in Austin, Texas

The guy kinda looked at it weird so I told him, that someone I

knew

came there and bought one no problem. He said on hold on and went

to

talk to someone, he came back and rang it up no problem.
They get a commission off the extended service plan things so if

you

mention that you want one then maybe they will work harder to

make

sure it rings up. He however had no problem ringing it up using

the

coupon I gave him.

If I were you and the store isn't too far I would go up there and
just hand them the coupon and the paper you have to fill out. If

they

say anything mention that it is a store item and your buying it

from

the store but its just not there because its a special order...

If

that fails maybe the extended service may convince... Think its

about

120 for 2 years or something like that. So that takes it back up

to

the original sale price I think but you have the service...

No Idea if this will work but thats what I would do. Worth a shot.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@>
wrote:

Hi,

Most excellent - I just called my local HF store and they said

NO, quite clearly and without hesitation. I was looking for the
milling machine # 93885.

If you don't mind mentioning - which store let you make the

purchase?

Take care,
DBN



houe2005 <houe2005@> wrote:
At the harbor freight I went to I was able to special

order the 8x12

at the store. They had this little stand with a few larger

items

in

a

book and you just fill out a form and then ring it up at the

cashier

like a regular item. Doing this I was able to use the 30%

coupon

on

the 8x12 lathe. They said it should take 7-10 days to arrive.

I'm

looking forward to it. $385 + tax.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "David Robertson"
<davidr415@> wrote:

No.. you are right.. they don?€?t sell in stores. I forgot.



David



_____

From: 7x12minilathe@...

[mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Druid Noibn

Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:58 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] HF 30% off coupon



Hi David,

THANKS - I didn't get this one.

As for the 8x12 - sorry, that lathe is not sold in the

stores -

only

on-line or via a catalog purchase. Well, at least that is what

the

stores tell me and I checked all the ones in a 200+ radius of

the

NYC

area. Do they sell it in the stores by you?

Again - THANKS!
DBN

David Robertson <davidr415@yahoo. <mailto:davidr415%

40yahoo.com>

com> wrote:

Hi all,

I got a HF 30% off coupon that is good thru Monday. It is a

scan

of

a print coupon. I used it today at a Harbor Freight store in

North

Austin, TX. It scanned and gave the 30% discount on a micro
mill/drill. They seemed to have no problem with it being a

copy.

You can get it at the following web address:

.

<>
slickdeals.net/showthread.php?threadid=466706

The lady there also told me you can get rain checks on items

and

have the coupon attached to the rain check if your particular

item

is

out of stock.

This is an in store coupon. Not an online coupon.

This could take the sting out of an 8x12 that is no longer on

sale!!!

David



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Hi,

I know they have the belts, face plate, Rests, pulleys and a compatible QCTP. The LMS site doesn't seem to list the 8x12 as a catagory they support but they do have some items.

Do a search using "8x" you will see a few items or use this link

Take care,
DBN

oneacmename <daniel@...> wrote:
I placed an order with LMS and was very happy with the speed and
products.
I looked on LMS and don't see the 8x12 listed any idea what
replacement parts match what you suggested below from HF?
BTW what QCTP are you using one from LMS?

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@...>
wrote:

Hi,

For the 8x-12/14 you might wish to pick up:

28587-44859 Sync Tooth belt 550mm $5.85
28728-44859 v-belt 0-720 $1.38
29380-44859 Follow Rest (Optional) $16.57
29381-44859 Steady Rest (Optional) $17.63
29382-44859 Face Plate (Optional) $12.42
No # 125mm 4-jaw Lathe Chuck for 44859 ¨C about $58.

The prices might have changed.

Next be prepared to wait WEEKS or months to get the items.

Recently, I am having a bit of a problem with HF, damaged items and
it is now 5 (FIVE) months waiting for replacement items. Shipment of
wrong items ¨C the v-belt needs to be O-720 and they sent a O-710 and
a Z-737 ¨C useless!

If you don't mind the wait, go for it, otherwise check out LMS

and Lathemaster.

Yes the pricing is good but the service is poor ¨C they need a

change in management.

As for the QCTP you asked about ¨C I didn't buy it so I can't

attest to it fitting; sorry. I am sure others can give a good
opinion on it and/or so a Google search on the topic.

Take care,
DBN


oneacmename <daniel@...> wrote:
Does the 45439-1VGA from HF fit the 8x12 lathe?
I have a mill and just bought the 8x12 lathe, what other things
should I order along with it?

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@>
wrote:

Hi,

Only if it were a perfect world. Tool bits come in many standard

sizes as you are aware and HSS types are ground to address the
need. This grinding is not likely to put the bit at the perfect
height though "good enough" is often heard. Adjusting the position
of a tool bit is Standard Operating Procedure a.k.a. SOP, and shims
of different thickness are routinely used. In fact most keep a

small

try of such items near the lathe.

An alternate is to use a Quick Connect Tool Post QCTP as most of

these have a height adjustment so one can quickly exchange the bits
and the height is adjusted. As it turns out, some of the QCTP
offered do not fit perfectly on some lathes the bits would be too
high and can't be adjusted low enough - your original point. Some
machining is required. Check with LMS and Lathemaster on this.

So, "tweaking" the height of the bit is a part of the job.

Take care,
DBN

houe2005 <houe2005@> wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something. The tool holder that comes

with the lathe

can not be adjusted vertically, right? Since you want to cut with

the

tool at the center of rotation (or slightly below, but never

above!)

only a certain sized tool will get me there. Smaller tools can be

used

if you put a spacer in to bring the tool up to the center of

rotation,

but too large tools can not be brought down. Forgive if I'm

missing

something here since I've never owned a lathe before. So I was

asking

what sized tool puts be on center without spacers.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@>

wrote:

Hi,

The lathe can use up to 1/2" bits - some postings suggest using

3/8" for most work.

Take care,
DBN

houe2005 <houe2005@> wrote:
What size tools is the 8x12 tool post designed to take?

I've heard

3/8" and 1/2". I'd like to order now so by the time I receive

my

lathe

(about a week) I'll be able to do the basics right away. Thanks.






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Curiousity question: Is the quenching needed?

AFAIK people only quench brass and copper because they can. Steel
would harden but brass and copper don't. So quenching is the
quickest way to get things cool enough to proceed. However, surely a
rapid quench is also liable to induce distortions. I know it's then
softer so any distortions can be readily fixed. But if I was really
worried about shape, why would I quench brass or copper?

John


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "drmico60" <mikey.cox@...>
wrote:

You need to anneal the brass before machining to take the internal
stress out of the brass bar. To do this simly heat the brass to

dull

red heat and quench in water.
Kind regards
Mike
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Pigi <pigi@> wrote:

Hi all,
I'm not sure if this is OT, but I don't think, being that is

lathe

improvement related.

I was trying to build the tapered gibs to improve my 7x10 lathe,

but I'm

having problem ( lot of ) with the brass warpage.

When ever I give a pass with my mill, the brass gib become more

and

more

distorced.

So the question is: what could be the best way to machine those

gibs to

reduce the warpage ?

T.I.A.

Pigi

Hi,

Yes, point well-taken. The issue here is that since the 8x12 lathe is also a catalog/website only item and it seems that a store took the orders... So, I am wondering what if the "service" will apply to other items or did by chance the store make an error and will refund the money?

I guess we will find out soon in the continuing saga of "Will HF actually fulfill the order...?"

Take care,
DBN

oneacmename <daniel@...> wrote:
Ahh yes thats correct some items are web only, the stores have no way
to order... Actually the local stores can't order anything from what
im told other than special order items, they just have to wait to see
what they are getting in.

There is usually a little book that has the items they can order in
it, or just give them part numbers and they can look it up.
There are a number of things that I'm ordering right now that are web
only purchases.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@...>
wrote:

Hi,

The stores over here are closed now but I'll do the research for

the future.

I aksed if they carry the item (I was looking for a milling

machine 93885) and if not would they special order it...? The
responses (I tried two stores) paraphrased, the item is not in the
computer, we don't carry it and we can't order it.

That said, HF is starting to advertise where they will ship items

to stores for local pick up and maybe some of the more interesting
items might be made available. I only wish my local stores were a
bit more cooperative.

Take care and THANKS!
DBN



oneacmename <daniel@...> wrote:
The north store in Austin, Texas

The guy kinda looked at it weird so I told him, that someone I knew
came there and bought one no problem. He said on hold on and went

to

talk to someone, he came back and rang it up no problem.
They get a commission off the extended service plan things so if

you

mention that you want one then maybe they will work harder to make
sure it rings up. He however had no problem ringing it up using the
coupon I gave him.

If I were you and the store isn't too far I would go up there and
just hand them the coupon and the paper you have to fill out. If

they

say anything mention that it is a store item and your buying it

from

the store but its just not there because its a special order... If
that fails maybe the extended service may convince... Think its

about

120 for 2 years or something like that. So that takes it back up to
the original sale price I think but you have the service...

No Idea if this will work but thats what I would do. Worth a shot.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@>
wrote:

Hi,

Most excellent - I just called my local HF store and they said

NO, quite clearly and without hesitation. I was looking for the
milling machine # 93885.

If you don't mind mentioning - which store let you make the

purchase?

Take care,
DBN



houe2005 <houe2005@> wrote:
At the harbor freight I went to I was able to special

order the 8x12

at the store. They had this little stand with a few larger items

in

a

book and you just fill out a form and then ring it up at the

cashier

like a regular item. Doing this I was able to use the 30% coupon

on

the 8x12 lathe. They said it should take 7-10 days to arrive. I'm
looking forward to it. $385 + tax.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "David Robertson"
<davidr415@> wrote:

No.. you are right.. they don?€?t sell in stores. I forgot.



David



_____

From: 7x12minilathe@...

[mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Druid Noibn

Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:58 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] HF 30% off coupon



Hi David,

THANKS - I didn't get this one.

As for the 8x12 - sorry, that lathe is not sold in the stores -

only

on-line or via a catalog purchase. Well, at least that is what the
stores tell me and I checked all the ones in a 200+ radius of the

NYC

area. Do they sell it in the stores by you?

Again - THANKS!
DBN

David Robertson <davidr415@yahoo. <mailto:davidr415%40yahoo.com>

com> wrote:

Hi all,

I got a HF 30% off coupon that is good thru Monday. It is a

scan

of

a print coupon. I used it today at a Harbor Freight store in North
Austin, TX. It scanned and gave the 30% discount on a micro
mill/drill. They seemed to have no problem with it being a copy.

You can get it at the following web address:

.

<>
slickdeals.net/showthread.php?threadid=466706

The lady there also told me you can get rain checks on items and

have the coupon attached to the rain check if your particular

item

is

out of stock.

This is an in store coupon. Not an online coupon.

This could take the sting out of an 8x12 that is no longer on

sale!!!

David

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I placed an order with LMS and was very happy with the speed and
products.
I looked on LMS and don't see the 8x12 listed any idea what
replacement parts match what you suggested below from HF?
BTW what QCTP are you using one from LMS?

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@...>
wrote:

Hi,

For the 8x-12/14 you might wish to pick up:

28587-44859 Sync Tooth belt 550mm $5.85
28728-44859 v-belt 0-720 $1.38
29380-44859 Follow Rest (Optional) $16.57
29381-44859 Steady Rest (Optional) $17.63
29382-44859 Face Plate (Optional) $12.42
No # 125mm 4-jaw Lathe Chuck for 44859 ¨C about $58.

The prices might have changed.

Next be prepared to wait WEEKS or months to get the items.

Recently, I am having a bit of a problem with HF, damaged items and
it is now 5 (FIVE) months waiting for replacement items. Shipment of
wrong items ¨C the v-belt needs to be O-720 and they sent a O-710 and
a Z-737 ¨C useless!

If you don't mind the wait, go for it, otherwise check out LMS

and Lathemaster.

Yes the pricing is good but the service is poor ¨C they need a

change in management.

As for the QCTP you asked about ¨C I didn't buy it so I can't

attest to it fitting; sorry. I am sure others can give a good
opinion on it and/or so a Google search on the topic.

Take care,
DBN


oneacmename <daniel@...> wrote:
Does the 45439-1VGA from HF fit the 8x12 lathe?
I have a mill and just bought the 8x12 lathe, what other things
should I order along with it?

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@>
wrote:

Hi,

Only if it were a perfect world. Tool bits come in many standard

sizes as you are aware and HSS types are ground to address the
need. This grinding is not likely to put the bit at the perfect
height though "good enough" is often heard. Adjusting the position
of a tool bit is Standard Operating Procedure a.k.a. SOP, and shims
of different thickness are routinely used. In fact most keep a

small

try of such items near the lathe.

An alternate is to use a Quick Connect Tool Post QCTP as most of

these have a height adjustment so one can quickly exchange the bits
and the height is adjusted. As it turns out, some of the QCTP
offered do not fit perfectly on some lathes the bits would be too
high and can't be adjusted low enough - your original point. Some
machining is required. Check with LMS and Lathemaster on this.

So, "tweaking" the height of the bit is a part of the job.

Take care,
DBN

houe2005 <houe2005@> wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something. The tool holder that comes

with the lathe

can not be adjusted vertically, right? Since you want to cut with

the

tool at the center of rotation (or slightly below, but never

above!)

only a certain sized tool will get me there. Smaller tools can be

used

if you put a spacer in to bring the tool up to the center of

rotation,

but too large tools can not be brought down. Forgive if I'm

missing

something here since I've never owned a lathe before. So I was

asking

what sized tool puts be on center without spacers.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@>

wrote:

Hi,

The lathe can use up to 1/2" bits - some postings suggest using

3/8" for most work.

Take care,
DBN

houe2005 <houe2005@> wrote:
What size tools is the 8x12 tool post designed to take?

I've heard

3/8" and 1/2". I'd like to order now so by the time I receive

my

lathe

(about a week) I'll be able to do the basics right away. Thanks.






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Ahh yes thats correct some items are web only, the stores have no way
to order... Actually the local stores can't order anything from what
im told other than special order items, they just have to wait to see
what they are getting in.

There is usually a little book that has the items they can order in
it, or just give them part numbers and they can look it up.
There are a number of things that I'm ordering right now that are web
only purchases.


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@...>
wrote:

Hi,

The stores over here are closed now but I'll do the research for

the future.

I aksed if they carry the item (I was looking for a milling

machine 93885) and if not would they special order it...? The
responses (I tried two stores) paraphrased, the item is not in the
computer, we don't carry it and we can't order it.

That said, HF is starting to advertise where they will ship items

to stores for local pick up and maybe some of the more interesting
items might be made available. I only wish my local stores were a
bit more cooperative.

Take care and THANKS!
DBN



oneacmename <daniel@...> wrote:
The north store in Austin, Texas

The guy kinda looked at it weird so I told him, that someone I knew
came there and bought one no problem. He said on hold on and went

to

talk to someone, he came back and rang it up no problem.
They get a commission off the extended service plan things so if

you

mention that you want one then maybe they will work harder to make
sure it rings up. He however had no problem ringing it up using the
coupon I gave him.

If I were you and the store isn't too far I would go up there and
just hand them the coupon and the paper you have to fill out. If

they

say anything mention that it is a store item and your buying it

from

the store but its just not there because its a special order... If
that fails maybe the extended service may convince... Think its

about

120 for 2 years or something like that. So that takes it back up to
the original sale price I think but you have the service...

No Idea if this will work but thats what I would do. Worth a shot.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@>
wrote:

Hi,

Most excellent - I just called my local HF store and they said

NO, quite clearly and without hesitation. I was looking for the
milling machine # 93885.

If you don't mind mentioning - which store let you make the

purchase?

Take care,
DBN



houe2005 <houe2005@> wrote:
At the harbor freight I went to I was able to special

order the 8x12

at the store. They had this little stand with a few larger items

in

a

book and you just fill out a form and then ring it up at the

cashier

like a regular item. Doing this I was able to use the 30% coupon

on

the 8x12 lathe. They said it should take 7-10 days to arrive. I'm
looking forward to it. $385 + tax.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "David Robertson"
<davidr415@> wrote:

No.. you are right.. they don?€?t sell in stores. I forgot.



David



_____

From: 7x12minilathe@...

[mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Druid Noibn

Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:58 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] HF 30% off coupon



Hi David,

THANKS - I didn't get this one.

As for the 8x12 - sorry, that lathe is not sold in the stores -

only

on-line or via a catalog purchase. Well, at least that is what the
stores tell me and I checked all the ones in a 200+ radius of the

NYC

area. Do they sell it in the stores by you?

Again - THANKS!
DBN

David Robertson <davidr415@yahoo. <mailto:davidr415%40yahoo.com>

com> wrote:

Hi all,

I got a HF 30% off coupon that is good thru Monday. It is a

scan

of

a print coupon. I used it today at a Harbor Freight store in North
Austin, TX. It scanned and gave the 30% discount on a micro
mill/drill. They seemed to have no problem with it being a copy.

You can get it at the following web address:

.

<>
slickdeals.net/showthread.php?threadid=466706

The lady there also told me you can get rain checks on items and

have the coupon attached to the rain check if your particular

item

is

out of stock.

This is an in store coupon. Not an online coupon.

This could take the sting out of an 8x12 that is no longer on

sale!!!

David

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Hi,

For the 8x-12/14 you might wish to pick up:

28587-44859 Sync Tooth belt 550mm $5.85
28728-44859 v-belt 0-720 $1.38
29380-44859 Follow Rest (Optional) $16.57
29381-44859 Steady Rest (Optional) $17.63
29382-44859 Face Plate (Optional) $12.42
No # 125mm 4-jaw Lathe Chuck for 44859 ¨C about $58.

The prices might have changed.

Next be prepared to wait WEEKS or months to get the items. Recently, I am having a bit of a problem with HF, damaged items and it is now 5 (FIVE) months waiting for replacement items. Shipment of wrong items ¨C the v-belt needs to be O-720 and they sent a O-710 and a Z-737 ¨C useless!

If you don¡¯t mind the wait, go for it, otherwise check out LMS and Lathemaster.

Yes the pricing is good but the service is poor ¨C they need a change in management.

As for the QCTP you asked about ¨C I didn¡¯t buy it so I can¡¯t attest to it fitting; sorry. I am sure others can give a good opinion on it and/or so a Google search on the topic.

Take care,
DBN


oneacmename <daniel@...> wrote:
Does the 45439-1VGA from HF fit the 8x12 lathe?
I have a mill and just bought the 8x12 lathe, what other things
should I order along with it?

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@...>
wrote:

Hi,

Only if it were a perfect world. Tool bits come in many standard

sizes as you are aware and HSS types are ground to address the
need. This grinding is not likely to put the bit at the perfect
height though "good enough" is often heard. Adjusting the position
of a tool bit is Standard Operating Procedure a.k.a. SOP, and shims
of different thickness are routinely used. In fact most keep a small
try of such items near the lathe.

An alternate is to use a Quick Connect Tool Post QCTP as most of

these have a height adjustment so one can quickly exchange the bits
and the height is adjusted. As it turns out, some of the QCTP
offered do not fit perfectly on some lathes the bits would be too
high and can't be adjusted low enough - your original point. Some
machining is required. Check with LMS and Lathemaster on this.

So, "tweaking" the height of the bit is a part of the job.

Take care,
DBN

houe2005 <houe2005@...> wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something. The tool holder that comes

with the lathe

can not be adjusted vertically, right? Since you want to cut with

the

tool at the center of rotation (or slightly below, but never above!)
only a certain sized tool will get me there. Smaller tools can be

used

if you put a spacer in to bring the tool up to the center of

rotation,

but too large tools can not be brought down. Forgive if I'm missing
something here since I've never owned a lathe before. So I was

asking

what sized tool puts be on center without spacers.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@>

wrote:

Hi,

The lathe can use up to 1/2" bits - some postings suggest using

3/8" for most work.

Take care,
DBN

houe2005 <houe2005@> wrote:
What size tools is the 8x12 tool post designed to take?

I've heard

3/8" and 1/2". I'd like to order now so by the time I receive my

lathe

(about a week) I'll be able to do the basics right away. Thanks.






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Hi,

The stores over here are closed now but I'll do the research for the future.

I aksed if they carry the item (I was looking for a milling machine 93885) and if not would they special order it...? The responses (I tried two stores) paraphrased, the item is not in the computer, we don't carry it and we can't order it.

That said, HF is starting to advertise where they will ship items to stores for local pick up and maybe some of the more interesting items might be made available. I only wish my local stores were a bit more cooperative.

Take care and THANKS!
DBN



oneacmename <daniel@...> wrote:
The north store in Austin, Texas

The guy kinda looked at it weird so I told him, that someone I knew
came there and bought one no problem. He said on hold on and went to
talk to someone, he came back and rang it up no problem.
They get a commission off the extended service plan things so if you
mention that you want one then maybe they will work harder to make
sure it rings up. He however had no problem ringing it up using the
coupon I gave him.

If I were you and the store isn't too far I would go up there and
just hand them the coupon and the paper you have to fill out. If they
say anything mention that it is a store item and your buying it from
the store but its just not there because its a special order... If
that fails maybe the extended service may convince... Think its about
120 for 2 years or something like that. So that takes it back up to
the original sale price I think but you have the service...

No Idea if this will work but thats what I would do. Worth a shot.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@...>
wrote:

Hi,

Most excellent - I just called my local HF store and they said

NO, quite clearly and without hesitation. I was looking for the
milling machine # 93885.

If you don't mind mentioning - which store let you make the

purchase?

Take care,
DBN



houe2005 <houe2005@...> wrote:
At the harbor freight I went to I was able to special

order the 8x12

at the store. They had this little stand with a few larger items in

a

book and you just fill out a form and then ring it up at the cashier
like a regular item. Doing this I was able to use the 30% coupon on
the 8x12 lathe. They said it should take 7-10 days to arrive. I'm
looking forward to it. $385 + tax.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "David Robertson"
<davidr415@> wrote:

No.. you are right.. they don?€?t sell in stores. I forgot.



David



_____

From: 7x12minilathe@...

[mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Druid Noibn

Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:58 PM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] HF 30% off coupon



Hi David,

THANKS - I didn't get this one.

As for the 8x12 - sorry, that lathe is not sold in the stores -

only

on-line or via a catalog purchase. Well, at least that is what the
stores tell me and I checked all the ones in a 200+ radius of the

NYC

area. Do they sell it in the stores by you?

Again - THANKS!
DBN

David Robertson <davidr415@yahoo. <mailto:davidr415%40yahoo.com>

com> wrote:

Hi all,

I got a HF 30% off coupon that is good thru Monday. It is a scan

of

a print coupon. I used it today at a Harbor Freight store in North
Austin, TX. It scanned and gave the 30% discount on a micro
mill/drill. They seemed to have no problem with it being a copy.

You can get it at the following web address:

.

<>
slickdeals.net/showthread.php?threadid=466706

The lady there also told me you can get rain checks on items and

have the coupon attached to the rain check if your particular item

is

out of stock.

This is an in store coupon. Not an online coupon.

This could take the sting out of an 8x12 that is no longer on

sale!!!

David

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I wasn't aware of the annealing trick when I designed and built the tapered gib mod several years ago. I anticipated the warping, however, as I knew about the internal stresses and what happens when the surface is machined away.

What I did was to machine from both sides of the brass stock, in small increments until I got it close. There was still warpage, so I set the machined gib on riser blocks on each end and used the mill quill as a press to bend the warp out each piece. This is described in my article on the Tapered Gib:

<>

If you have the means to heat your stock and anneal it as Mike describes, you can probably save yourself some extra machining steps and trouble.

Rick

Frank wrote......Not sure where you can get fuses......

Sorry for the delay, I have been away for the weekend. On this side of the pond, I bought some from Maplins. It was some time ago, I took in the old one and they traced their stock number. Unfortunately I don't have a record of it and there isn't any reference number on the box. But I think they would still be able to supply them. Cost was about ?1.25 for 10.
HTH
Ellis

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You need to anneal the brass before machining to take the internal
stress out of the brass bar. To do this simly heat the brass to dull
red heat and quench in water.
Kind regards
Mike
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Pigi <pigi@...> wrote:

Hi all,
I'm not sure if this is OT, but I don't think, being that is

lathe

improvement related.

I was trying to build the tapered gibs to improve my 7x10 lathe,

but I'm

having problem ( lot of ) with the brass warpage.

When ever I give a pass with my mill, the brass gib become more and

more

distorced.

So the question is: what could be the best way to machine those

gibs to

reduce the warpage ?

T.I.A.

Pigi

Does the 45439-1VGA from HF fit the 8x12 lathe?
I have a mill and just bought the 8x12 lathe, what other things
should I order along with it?


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@...>
wrote:

Hi,

Only if it were a perfect world. Tool bits come in many standard

sizes as you are aware and HSS types are ground to address the
need. This grinding is not likely to put the bit at the perfect
height though "good enough" is often heard. Adjusting the position
of a tool bit is Standard Operating Procedure a.k.a. SOP, and shims
of different thickness are routinely used. In fact most keep a small
try of such items near the lathe.

An alternate is to use a Quick Connect Tool Post QCTP as most of

these have a height adjustment so one can quickly exchange the bits
and the height is adjusted. As it turns out, some of the QCTP
offered do not fit perfectly on some lathes the bits would be too
high and can't be adjusted low enough - your original point. Some
machining is required. Check with LMS and Lathemaster on this.

So, "tweaking" the height of the bit is a part of the job.

Take care,
DBN

houe2005 <houe2005@...> wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something. The tool holder that comes

with the lathe

can not be adjusted vertically, right? Since you want to cut with

the

tool at the center of rotation (or slightly below, but never above!)
only a certain sized tool will get me there. Smaller tools can be

used

if you put a spacer in to bring the tool up to the center of

rotation,

but too large tools can not be brought down. Forgive if I'm missing
something here since I've never owned a lathe before. So I was

asking

what sized tool puts be on center without spacers.

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@>

wrote:

Hi,

The lathe can use up to 1/2" bits - some postings suggest using

3/8" for most work.

Take care,
DBN

houe2005 <houe2005@> wrote:
What size tools is the 8x12 tool post designed to take?

I've heard

3/8" and 1/2". I'd like to order now so by the time I receive my

lathe

(about a week) I'll be able to do the basics right away. Thanks.






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