Re: Reversing gear problem
Been there, done that....?? The shaft (46) runs in a "bearing" , the hole in the fixed cover, or drive belt cover as LMS calls it.? The shaft is frozen in the cover, and both should be replaced.?
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Re: Reversing gear problem
Thanks Warren, ?i got the Arceurotrade drawing and parts list. ?And thanks Gagetbuilder your drawings for the Dog clutch show there is a 0.270 diameter shaft inside the part #26 shaft as ?i suspected there had to be even though the expanded drawings do not show this internal shaft. ? Apparently the grease finally dried out on this internal shaft so the part #26 shaft seized and stopped my lathe.
?Now come the fun part of getting the seized shaft off the internal shaft.
Thanks for the help Pete McLaughlin
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On Aug 2, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Warren LeMay notebook@... [7x12minilathe] < 7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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This is the same drawing I have except for the European style
poser plug (and it's a better copy).
Warren L
?
Dear Pete,
????On my
Arceurotrade A1 sized exploded drawing it shows the
following starting at the Fixed cover:-
Desc. ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Part no.
Fixed cover
? ? ? ? ????? ? ?42
Lever
Quadrant ? ? ? ? ? ?36
Retaining
ring 12 ? ? ? ? 22 ? ( It says there are 3 of them.I
assume the 2 others in different parts of the lathe)
Gear 45T ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 45
Parallel
Key 3 x 8 ? ?????47
Shaft ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?????46
Key ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ????322
Mount ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ????48 This seems to show a bearing as
part of the shaft.
Gearwheel
Z20 ? ? ? ? ? ?50 ? ?(It again says 2.?) ?I
assume the other one is in another parts of the lathe -
on the quadrant.)
Washer M6 ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?51
Screw M6*8
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 52 ? ? (It again says 4.?I
assume there are 3 others in other parts of the lathe
The 2
screws (49) holding the mount (48) in place are M5*18.
? ? Go to??This
is on the Arceurotrade site in the UK. They sell Seig
rather than Real Bull(?) so it should be helpful. You
can blow up this drawing.
? ? Best
regards,
? ? David
? ? (Nr.
Oxford)
?
Hi
Warren
?In
my manual for the 33684 model of the
Harbor Freight lathe the shaft #46
goes through the 45 tooth gear part
number 45 then through what looks
like a washer #22 then through the
quadrant plate #36 and ends in the
backing plate made of pot metal
where it looks like it is peaned to
hold it in a fixed non rotating hold
in that plate. ?The quadrant plate
and 45 tooth gear should turn
independently on that shaft #46.
I
was hoping someone on the list could
confirm this or point out the error
of my observation. ?If i am right i
will have to replace the shaft, gear
and backing plate after i rip the
existing shaft out of the backing
plate which will destroy then but
salvage the quadrant plate and
washer.
I hate to destroy something if
there is a better way to fix this
seized gear.
Thanks for the help
Pete
McLaughli
n
Sent
from my iPad
?
Pete, I dont have a 7x10
but have collected up the HF
manuals and after looking at
three of them, it appears
that the gear in question
comes off with that "brass"
bearing mount (Drawing # 48
if you have the manual) that
is just in front of it.?
That gear seems to be
mounted on a short shaft
that connects it to the
smaller gear in front of the
retainer.? Both gears are
keyed to the shaft.
I
suspect what you see peened
over on the back side is the
pivot for the
forward/reverse quadrant
(Part #36 called handle
mount).
I'm not even sure the
gear shaft goes into the
casting.
From
here, it looks like it would
be easy enough to pull the
change gears and the mount,
and see if the offending
gear comes with it.
From
the description you gave for
the failure, my best guess
would be the bearing in the
mount failed.? I believe
Little Machine Shop lists
all of those parts.
......again, best guess
from the manuals.......
Warren
L
?
The
reversing gears on my
7x10 harbor freight
lathe33684 have seized.
Specifically the black
45 tooth gear shown in
this picture.
Does
this gear just pull off
or is there a sleeve on
this shaft the should
come off first?
The
shaft seems to be
pressed into the
potmetal frame behind
the gear and peaned so
it should not come off.
Any
help would be
appreciated.
Thanks
Pete
McLaughlin
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Oh, and that the C2 has a DC motor and the C3 has the brush-less.
Warren L
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Go to the Sieg web site and look up the specs
on a Sieg C3 and compare to what you have.? If they match
then you likely have a Sieg C3.
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And while we're at it, and before I answer you with a rumor instead
of a fact, I've heard the C2s from MM are painted red, and they
switched to the gray paint on the C3.
However, I never ran that into the ground.? I bought the red one on
closeout and at this time, dont even know if it is a true 14 or 16.?
The manual is moot on the topic.
So many rumors, so little time Dick....
Warren L
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This may seem a silly question.
I think my Micro Mark 7 x 16 is a C3 but I can't find
anything in my documentation that would confirm that and I
don't find any markings on the lathe bed.
How does one verify the version? I have no immediate need
to know but am just curious.
Dick
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Go to the Sieg web site and look up the specs on a Sieg C3 and compare to what you have.? If they match then you likely have a Sieg C3.
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 1:47 PM, old_toolmaker@... [7x12minilathe] <7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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This may seem a silly question.
I think my Micro Mark 7 x 16 is a C3 but I can't find anything in my documentation that would confirm that and I don't find any markings on the lathe bed.
How does one verify the version? I have no immediate need to know but am just curious.
Dick
--
Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California
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This may seem a silly question.
I think my Micro Mark 7 x 16 is a C3 but I can't find anything in my documentation that would confirm that and I don't find any markings on the lathe bed.
How does one verify the version? I have no immediate need to know but am just curious.
Dick
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Re: Reversing gear problem
This is the same drawing I have except for the European style
poser plug (and it's a better copy).
Warren L
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Dear Pete,
????On my
Arceurotrade A1 sized exploded drawing it shows the
following starting at the Fixed cover:-
Desc. ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Part no.
Fixed cover
? ? ? ? ????? ? ?42
Lever
Quadrant ? ? ? ? ? ?36
Retaining
ring 12 ? ? ? ? 22 ? ( It says there are 3 of them.I
assume the 2 others in different parts of the lathe)
Gear 45T ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 45
Parallel
Key 3 x 8 ? ?????47
Shaft ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?????46
Key ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ????322
Mount ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ????48 This seems to show a bearing as
part of the shaft.
Gearwheel
Z20 ? ? ? ? ? ?50 ? ?(It again says 2.?) ?I
assume the other one is in another parts of the lathe -
on the quadrant.)
Washer M6 ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?51
Screw M6*8
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 52 ? ? (It again says 4.?I
assume there are 3 others in other parts of the lathe
The 2
screws (49) holding the mount (48) in place are M5*18.
? ? Go to??This
is on the Arceurotrade site in the UK. They sell Seig
rather than Real Bull(?) so it should be helpful. You
can blow up this drawing.
? ? Best
regards,
? ? David
? ? (Nr.
Oxford)
?
Hi
Warren
?In
my manual for the 33684 model of the
Harbor Freight lathe the shaft #46
goes through the 45 tooth gear part
number 45 then through what looks
like a washer #22 then through the
quadrant plate #36 and ends in the
backing plate made of pot metal
where it looks like it is peaned to
hold it in a fixed non rotating hold
in that plate. ?The quadrant plate
and 45 tooth gear should turn
independently on that shaft #46.
I
was hoping someone on the list could
confirm this or point out the error
of my observation. ?If i am right i
will have to replace the shaft, gear
and backing plate after i rip the
existing shaft out of the backing
plate which will destroy then but
salvage the quadrant plate and
washer.
I hate to destroy something if
there is a better way to fix this
seized gear.
Thanks for the help
Pete
McLaughli
n
Sent
from my iPad
?
Pete, I dont have a 7x10
but have collected up the HF
manuals and after looking at
three of them, it appears
that the gear in question
comes off with that "brass"
bearing mount (Drawing # 48
if you have the manual) that
is just in front of it.?
That gear seems to be
mounted on a short shaft
that connects it to the
smaller gear in front of the
retainer.? Both gears are
keyed to the shaft.
I
suspect what you see peened
over on the back side is the
pivot for the
forward/reverse quadrant
(Part #36 called handle
mount).
I'm not even sure the
gear shaft goes into the
casting.
From
here, it looks like it would
be easy enough to pull the
change gears and the mount,
and see if the offending
gear comes with it.
From
the description you gave for
the failure, my best guess
would be the bearing in the
mount failed.? I believe
Little Machine Shop lists
all of those parts.
......again, best guess
from the manuals.......
Warren
L
?
The
reversing gears on my
7x10 harbor freight
lathe33684 have seized.
Specifically the black
45 tooth gear shown in
this picture.
Does
this gear just pull off
or is there a sleeve on
this shaft the should
come off first?
The
shaft seems to be
pressed into the
potmetal frame behind
the gear and peaned so
it should not come off.
Any
help would be
appreciated.
Thanks
Pete
McLaughlin
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Re: Reversing gear problem
As Warren says, the shaft can be removed after you take the bracket (two screws) off.? This shaft is the one that gets replaced to add a dog clutch so you may find the pictures in the description helpful, see:
John
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Re: Reversing gear problem
Dear Pete,
????On my Arceurotrade A1 sized exploded drawing it shows the following starting at the Fixed cover:-
Desc. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Part no.
Fixed cover ? ? ? ? ????? ? ?42 Lever Quadrant ? ? ? ? ? ?36 Retaining ring 12 ? ? ? ? 22 ? ( It says there are 3 of them.I assume the 2 others in different parts of the lathe) Gear 45T ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 45 Parallel Key 3 x 8 ? ?????47 Shaft ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?????46 Key ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ????322 Mount ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ????48 This seems to show a bearing as part of the shaft. Gearwheel Z20 ? ? ? ? ? ?50 ? ?(It again says 2.?) ?I assume the other one is in another parts of the lathe - on the quadrant.) Washer M6 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?51 Screw M6*8 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 52 ? ? (It again says 4.?I assume there are 3 others in other parts of the lathe
The 2 screws (49) holding the mount (48) in place are M5*18.
? ? Go to??This is on the Arceurotrade site in the UK. They sell Seig rather than Real Bull(?) so it should be helpful. You can blow up this drawing.
? ? Best regards,
? ? David
? ? (Nr. Oxford)
From: "Pete Mclaughlin pete_mclaughlin_93555@... [7x12minilathe]" <7x12minilathe@...>
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2017, 16:30
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Reversing gear problem
?
Hi Warren ?In my manual for the 33684 model of the Harbor Freight lathe the shaft #46 goes through the 45 tooth gear part number 45 then through what looks like a washer #22 then through the quadrant plate #36 and ends in the backing plate made of pot metal where it looks like it is peaned to hold it in a fixed non rotating hold in that plate. ?The quadrant plate and 45 tooth gear should turn independently on that shaft #46.
I was hoping someone on the list could confirm this or point out the error of my observation. ?If i am right i will have to replace the shaft, gear and backing plate after i rip the existing shaft out of the backing plate which will destroy then but salvage the quadrant plate and washer.
I hate to destroy something if there is a better way to fix this seized gear.
Thanks for the help
?
Pete, I dont have a 7x10 but have collected up the HF manuals and
after looking at three of them, it appears that the gear in
question comes off with that "brass" bearing mount (Drawing # 48
if you have the manual) that is just in front of it.? That gear
seems to be mounted on a short shaft that connects it to the
smaller gear in front of the retainer.? Both gears are keyed to
the shaft.
I suspect what you see peened over on the back side is the pivot
for the forward/reverse quadrant (Part #36 called handle mount).
I'm not even sure the gear shaft goes into the casting.
From here, it looks like it would be easy enough to pull the
change gears and the mount, and see if the offending gear comes
with it.
From the description you gave for the failure, my best guess
would be the bearing in the mount failed.? I believe Little
Machine Shop lists all of those parts.
......again, best guess from the manuals.......
Warren L
?
The reversing gears on my 7x10 harbor freight
lathe33684 have seized. Specifically the black 45 tooth
gear shown in this picture.
Does this gear just pull off or
is there a sleeve on this shaft the should come off first?
The shaft seems to be pressed
into the potmetal frame behind the gear and peaned so it
should not come off.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Pete McLaughlin
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Re: Reversing gear problem
OK, that didn't work - If you want the PDF, email me direct
(notebook@...) and I will send the PDF by reply to.?
That yahoo address is coming up invalid.
Warren L
On 8/2/2017 1:26 PM, Warren LeMay
notebook@... [7x12minilathe] wrote:
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Pete, I just (attempted to anyway) sent you the exploded
drawing out of my book direct to your email.? I think the
peened shaft is really holding only the quadrant and the
gear in question (which does NOT move with the quadrant)
will come off with Part #48.
It looks to me like the idler shaft within 48 actually
aligns with the quadrant pivot and may well be about the
same diameter.? If you think about it, look at your
drawing and see if the gears have keys (Part # 47).? It
would be impossible to have Gear 45 keyed to Shaft #46 and
have it peened into the housing.? It would have been
seized from time of assembly.
I still suspect if you pull the change gears and pull
Mount 48 (2 screws) Gear 45 will come with it and it's the
mount/shaft that is stuck (Part 48 to Part 46).
If our drawings don't match, bets are off.? This same
arrangement was continued in later models.? Sooo, someone
(maybe Chris at LMS) could tell you if you can use the
later parts to 'upgrade' the unit.
Warren L
?
Hi Warren
?In my manual for the 33684 model of the Harbor
Freight lathe the shaft #46 goes through the 45
tooth gear part number 45 then through what looks
like a washer #22 then through the quadrant plate
#36 and ends in the backing plate made of pot metal
where it looks like it is peaned to hold it in a
fixed non rotating hold in that plate. ?The quadrant
plate and 45 tooth gear should turn independently on
that shaft #46.
I was hoping someone on the list could confirm
this or point out the error of my observation. ?If i
am right i will have to replace the shaft, gear and
backing plate after i rip the existing shaft out of
the backing plate which will destroy then but
salvage the quadrant plate and washer.
I hate to destroy something if there is a better
way to fix this seized gear.
Thanks for the help
?
Pete, I dont have a 7x10 but have collected
up the HF manuals and after looking at three
of them, it appears that the gear in question
comes off with that "brass" bearing mount
(Drawing # 48 if you have the manual) that is
just in front of it.? That gear seems to be
mounted on a short shaft that connects it to
the smaller gear in front of the retainer.?
Both gears are keyed to the shaft.
I suspect what you see peened over on the
back side is the pivot for the forward/reverse
quadrant (Part #36 called handle mount).
I'm not even sure the gear shaft goes into
the casting.
From here, it looks like it would be easy
enough to pull the change gears and the mount,
and see if the offending gear comes with it.
From the description you gave for the
failure, my best guess would be the bearing in
the mount failed.? I believe Little Machine
Shop lists all of those parts.
......again, best guess from the
manuals.......
Warren L
?
The reversing gears on my 7x10 harbor
freight lathe33684 have seized.
Specifically the black 45 tooth gear shown
in this picture.
Does this gear
just pull off or is there a sleeve on this
shaft the should come off first?
The shaft seems
to be pressed into the potmetal frame
behind the gear and peaned so it should
not come off.
Any help would
be appreciated.
Thanks
Pete McLaughlin
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Re: Reversing gear problem
Pete, I just (attempted to anyway) sent you the exploded drawing
out of my book direct to your email.? I think the peened shaft is
really holding only the quadrant and the gear in question (which
does NOT move with the quadrant) will come off with Part #48.
It looks to me like the idler shaft within 48 actually aligns
with the quadrant pivot and may well be about the same diameter.?
If you think about it, look at your drawing and see if the gears
have keys (Part # 47).? It would be impossible to have Gear 45
keyed to Shaft #46 and have it peened into the housing.? It would
have been seized from time of assembly.
I still suspect if you pull the change gears and pull Mount 48 (2
screws) Gear 45 will come with it and it's the mount/shaft that is
stuck (Part 48 to Part 46).
If our drawings don't match, bets are off.? This same arrangement
was continued in later models.? Sooo, someone (maybe Chris at LMS)
could tell you if you can use the later parts to 'upgrade' the
unit.
Warren L
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Hi Warren
?In my manual for the 33684 model of the Harbor
Freight lathe the shaft #46 goes through the 45 tooth
gear part number 45 then through what looks like a
washer #22 then through the quadrant plate #36 and ends
in the backing plate made of pot metal where it looks
like it is peaned to hold it in a fixed non rotating
hold in that plate. ?The quadrant plate and 45 tooth
gear should turn independently on that shaft #46.
I was hoping someone on the list could confirm this
or point out the error of my observation. ?If i am right
i will have to replace the shaft, gear and backing plate
after i rip the existing shaft out of the backing plate
which will destroy then but salvage the quadrant plate
and washer.
I hate to destroy something if there is a better way
to fix this seized gear.
Thanks for the help
?
Pete, I dont have a 7x10 but have collected up
the HF manuals and after looking at three of them,
it appears that the gear in question comes off
with that "brass" bearing mount (Drawing # 48 if
you have the manual) that is just in front of it.?
That gear seems to be mounted on a short shaft
that connects it to the smaller gear in front of
the retainer.? Both gears are keyed to the shaft.
I suspect what you see peened over on the back
side is the pivot for the forward/reverse quadrant
(Part #36 called handle mount).
I'm not even sure the gear shaft goes into the
casting.
From here, it looks like it would be easy enough
to pull the change gears and the mount, and see if
the offending gear comes with it.
From the description you gave for the failure, my
best guess would be the bearing in the mount
failed.? I believe Little Machine Shop lists all
of those parts.
......again, best guess from the manuals.......
Warren L
?
The reversing gears on my 7x10 harbor
freight lathe33684 have seized. Specifically
the black 45 tooth gear shown in this picture.
Does this gear just
pull off or is there a sleeve on this shaft
the should come off first?
The shaft seems to
be pressed into the potmetal frame behind the
gear and peaned so it should not come off.
Any help would be
appreciated.
Thanks
Pete McLaughlin
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Re: Reversing gear problem
Hi Warren ?In my manual for the 33684 model of the Harbor Freight lathe the shaft #46 goes through the 45 tooth gear part number 45 then through what looks like a washer #22 then through the quadrant plate #36 and ends in the backing plate made of pot metal where it looks like it is peaned to hold it in a fixed non rotating hold in that plate. ?The quadrant plate and 45 tooth gear should turn independently on that shaft #46.
I was hoping someone on the list could confirm this or point out the error of my observation. ?If i am right i will have to replace the shaft, gear and backing plate after i rip the existing shaft out of the backing plate which will destroy then but salvage the quadrant plate and washer.
I hate to destroy something if there is a better way to fix this seized gear.
Thanks for the help
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On Aug 2, 2017, at 2:08 AM, Warren LeMay notebook@... [7x12minilathe] < 7x12minilathe@...> wrote:
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Pete, I dont have a 7x10 but have collected up the HF manuals and
after looking at three of them, it appears that the gear in
question comes off with that "brass" bearing mount (Drawing # 48
if you have the manual) that is just in front of it.? That gear
seems to be mounted on a short shaft that connects it to the
smaller gear in front of the retainer.? Both gears are keyed to
the shaft.
I suspect what you see peened over on the back side is the pivot
for the forward/reverse quadrant (Part #36 called handle mount).
I'm not even sure the gear shaft goes into the casting.
From here, it looks like it would be easy enough to pull the
change gears and the mount, and see if the offending gear comes
with it.
From the description you gave for the failure, my best guess
would be the bearing in the mount failed.? I believe Little
Machine Shop lists all of those parts.
......again, best guess from the manuals.......
Warren L
?
The reversing gears on my 7x10 harbor freight
lathe33684 have seized. Specifically the black 45 tooth
gear shown in this picture.
Does this gear just pull off or
is there a sleeve on this shaft the should come off first?
The shaft seems to be pressed
into the potmetal frame behind the gear and peaned so it
should not come off.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Pete McLaughlin
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make magazine multi-tool from a grinder
I just received my weekly make magazine newsletter and it has a link to?a set of videos that?Tuomas?Soikkeli made on how he turns a Bosch angle grinder into a guided cutter, chop saw, bench grinder, polisher, pipe cutter (which can handle pipe from 50-125mm diameter), circular saw, and more.
I wouldn't do it myself, but It looks pretty cool so I thought others on this list might like it.
? Paul Conti -- USA
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Re: Reversing gear problem
Pete, I dont have a 7x10 but have collected up the HF manuals and
after looking at three of them, it appears that the gear in
question comes off with that "brass" bearing mount (Drawing # 48
if you have the manual) that is just in front of it.? That gear
seems to be mounted on a short shaft that connects it to the
smaller gear in front of the retainer.? Both gears are keyed to
the shaft.
I suspect what you see peened over on the back side is the pivot
for the forward/reverse quadrant (Part #36 called handle mount).
I'm not even sure the gear shaft goes into the casting.
From here, it looks like it would be easy enough to pull the
change gears and the mount, and see if the offending gear comes
with it.
From the description you gave for the failure, my best guess
would be the bearing in the mount failed.? I believe Little
Machine Shop lists all of those parts.
......again, best guess from the manuals.......
Warren L
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?
The reversing gears on my 7x10 harbor freight
lathe33684 have seized. Specifically the black 45 tooth
gear shown in this picture.
Does this gear just pull off or
is there a sleeve on this shaft the should come off first?
The shaft seems to be pressed
into the potmetal frame behind the gear and peaned so it
should not come off.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Pete McLaughlin
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Re: Reversing gear problem
The shaft should pull out of the pot metal frame easily. It sounds like that is the part that is seized. The 45 tooth gear is held in place by a external snap ring. The change gear, shaft and 45 tooth gear rotate as a unit in the pot metal frame and half moon shaped carrier. Some how your going to need to get the shaft out of the pot metal frame and smooth out the frame and the shaft so the shaft turns freely. Paul M
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The reversing gears on my 7x10 harbor freight lathe33684 have seized. Specifically the black 45 tooth gear shown in this picture.
Does this gear just pull off or is there a sleeve on this shaft the should come off first?
The shaft seems to be pressed into the potmetal frame behind the gear and peaned so it should not come off.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks Pete McLaughlin
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>Yes, I assumed he just flip flopped
them.
Indeed I did! Sorry about that. -though I'll probably still refer to them as "those ones you can't search"? ;-)
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On 31/07/2017 22:46, Ian Newman ian_new@... [7x12minilathe] wrote: Hi Ralph,
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If you have a .pdf why do you need a image?
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The issue arose due to a desire a use a photo hosting site.
All the best,
Ian
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Warren LeMay
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