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Re: Horsepower Resistor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe Chinese New Year is 10 February, so you should be alright
? From: Jerry Durand
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Horsepower Resistor ?
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On 02/03/2013 06:49 AM, Mark Schwiebert wrote:
Our company buys items from China fairly often and the shipping is always amazing.? For a current customer project I need some high current solid state relays.? In the USA a 40 Amp relay is around $47 each plus shipping.? I ordered ten of them from the factory* and the total WITH FedEx Priority shipping is about $75. One thing you have to watch for is holidays, they tend to shut everything down for major holidays.? In theory they got my package out before leaving for New Years...I have a FedEx tracking number and hope FedEx in China doesn't shut down until after the box has left the country. * Shande Electric Factory, -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand |
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Re: Horsepower Resistor
Den
Will give it a try.
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Thanks --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "andyf1108" wrote:
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Re: Horsepower Resistor
Den
I rang ABB Australia Pty Limited this morning and got a phone number for one of there retail outlets. Rang the second outlet and was told they were out off stock. They really didn't want to help me as I was told they would have to order from ABB Australia Pty Limited who would charge them postage fees and they would also charge me postage fees, so for a $4 part that would fit into an envelope it would cost $30.
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I will be looking elsewhere, no wonder we by from China on the net. And Australian Business wonders why people by from overseas. Cheers --- In 7x12minilathe@..., "andyf1108" wrote:
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Re: Horsepower Resistor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýTry Jaycar or Alltronics. In the eastern suburbs of Melbourne I would recommened going to Trucotts Electronic World.Cheers, Andrew in Melbourne On 03/02/13 22:39, MERTON B BAKER
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Re: Boring bar setup question
Hi John.
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Yes, its a through hole. A couple of them actually. One starts as solid bar, drilled to 1/2" then bored out to .625" or so to the proper depth to leave a .480" section with the 1/2" hole. This part goes over a stepped shaft. The other starts with a .750" hole (I buy the material that way) and is bored out a bit to thread 13/16 x 26. When it's all said and done the first part ends up turned and threaded for the second to screw over to become one piece. It's actually a handle upgrade. I'll have to search D drill. I don't know what that is. And I don't have any way to make a HSS bar. By the way, I've tried HSS inserts and have horrible chip welding. Do I just have crap steel inserts? Carbide has been so much better. Thanks, Ryan John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote: ? Hello Ryan. You did not mention if this was a through hole that you have problems with. If it is a blind hole,a boring bar with a flood coolant hole may work,to wash out the chips. I agree with the comments about rake angles. IMO carbide for cutting?aluminium never seems to work well.the chips tend to stick to the tip even with WD 40 as a cutting lubricant. Try using a home made boring bar with a HSS tool bit.,and or a D bit drill made out of 3/4 " drill rod. Just for interest,how did you get the hole roughed out in the first place? If a through hole have you thought about boring from both ends,skimming the outside diameter and using a soft jaws in a 3 jaw chuck, or a 4 jaw chuck, using a Dial indicator to get the concentricity when boring from the other end. John L Spain.
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Re: Horsepower Resistor
Jerry Durand
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn 02/03/2013 06:49 AM, Mark Schwiebert wrote:
Our company buys items from China fairly often and the shipping is always amazing.? For a current customer project I need some high current solid state relays.? In the USA a 40 Amp relay is around $47 each plus shipping.? I ordered ten of them from the factory* and the total WITH FedEx Priority shipping is about $75. One thing you have to watch for is holidays, they tend to shut everything down for major holidays.? In theory they got my package out before leaving for New Years...I have a FedEx tracking number and hope FedEx in China doesn't shut down until after the box has left the country. * Shande Electric Factory, -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand |
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Re: Boring bar setup question
Thanks!
Do you think a "P" insert (11¡ã) would help? It's only 6¡ã but better than the 2 I have now. cnc sales <gcode.fi@...> wrote: ?
Hi Ryan !
For good results, boring holes are typically limited to about 1.5-2x boring bar diameter. As such, a 3/8 boring bar is only good to about 1/2 inches. After this it will chatter with variable results. All lathe tools work well only upto about 1-3x their size. Ie a 1/2 inch tool will only work well to 1-1.5 inches deep. However.. Alu is easy. Your problem is rake. CCMT is 7 degrees positive and you need to maintain this, *especially* when doing deep bores. With a -5 degrees boring bar, you are losing the benefits of the insert, and greatly increasing the problems of the overly long, slim, thin bar. It *can* be done with a 3/8 in alu but not well, imo. You need to have at least 7 degrees rake, even? a bit more. If you can make (buy) another bar (any steel) of near .7 inches, and have the bit be at zero-1 degree rake, it will go vastly better. For alu, at .75 inches or about 18 mm, I would recommend about 1000 rpm, 0.1 - 0.06 mm cuts. ? -- -hanermo |
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Re: Boring bar setup question
John Lindo
Hello Ryan. You did not mention if this was a through hole that you have problems with. If it is a blind hole,a boring bar with a flood coolant hole may work,to wash out the chips. I agree with the comments about rake angles. IMO carbide for cutting?aluminium never seems to work well.the chips tend to stick to the tip even with WD 40 as a cutting lubricant. Try using a home made boring bar with a HSS tool bit.,and or a D bit drill made out of 3/4 " drill rod. Just for interest,how did you get the hole roughed out in the first place? If a through hole have you thought about boring from both ends,skimming the outside diameter and using a soft jaws in a 3 jaw chuck, or a 4 jaw chuck, using a Dial indicator to get the concentricity when boring from the other end. John L Spain.
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Re: Newb question about 1/8" cutting tools
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI agree with the QCTP thought, couple of reasons, ?FIRST, for me it ?was setting tool bit height! I¡¯m NOT a machinist, bought a 7X five years ago and the first ¡°upgrade¡± was the Quick Change Tool Post. ?Over the years I¡¯ve picked up a couple more tool holders, makes setting the height and tool changes a POC (piece of cake) I went the ¡°Cheep¡± HF ?¡¯ tool route.¡ mistake¡¡. Then I bought a ¡°pre-ground¡± set from Grizzly¡¡.. beautiful (expensive) wood case, real cutters! Of course I ?jammed em¡¯, dropped em¡¯, galled¡. used and abused em¡¯, ?they got dull! What to do now, learn to grind my own. As a concept, up there with sliced bread. One can become? adequate with a cheap 6¡±grinder, and a ?little practice! ?LMS has (2) two items that were invaluable to me during my ¡°steep¡± learn curve. ?This video¡ ? and these HSS blanks¡. ? All The Best, ? Allen, on an island in SE Alaska ? From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]
On Behalf Of Exibar
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:38 PM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Newb question about 1/8" cutting tools ?
I second the QCTP setup....? I got one last year and I honestly don't know what I'd be doing without it right now.... ? From:
7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...] On Behalf Of Jim Dunmyer ? ? Jeremy, Do yourself a huge favor and get a QCTP setup from LMS. See: for their selection; I don¡¯t know which one you need right offhand, but they¡¯re very helpful if you ask. While you¡¯re at it, buy a few HSS toolbits and grind them according to your needs. ? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????? <> ? From: cptwinderatgmaildotcom Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:16 PM Subject: [7x12minilathe] Newb question about 1/8" cutting tools ? ? When I
purchased my lathe, I also purchased a few sets of cutting tools: ?
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Re: tailstock Cam lock kit and F/O/R switch change
Jim Dunmyer
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMike,
When I had my H.F. lathe, I bought a 17mm combination wrench at a flea
market, then cut it about in half with an abrasive wheel. The box end of it is
bent at an angle, and it hangs on the T.S. clamp nut. You can usually
loosen/tighten the nut w/o actually removing the wrench at all. If you do have
to move it, one additional swing will do the job. It¡¯s nearly as fast as a true
cam-lock T.S., and clamps better. At least, it worked better than the cam-lock
setup on my Micro-Mark 7X14.
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? From: Exibar
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 12:05 AM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] tailstock Cam lock kit and F/O/R switch
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HI All! ??? I've been making some parts lately and have had some luck selling them as well.? Enough to buy some new hop-ups for my 7x12 Cummings lathe :-)
My F/O/R switch is acting up, and I'm thinking that I'd rather have a rotary type switch instead of a toggle, like the one that's on the micromark 7x14... anyone make this swap??? I'll probably just wind up going with a stock replacement, unless the swap is easy?
I'm also thinking about a Tailstock cam lock kit.? I see LMS has them for $30...? Does the cam lock kit rally get the tailstock clamped down tight enough so it doesn't move?? will installing this kit throw off he alignment of the Tailstock?? My TS is perfectly aligned right now, I really dont' want to go through that trouble again of lining it back up... or worse I really don't want it to be thrown out of alignment higher or lower :-(
thanks! ? Mike B |
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Re: Boring bar setup question
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Ryan !
For good results, boring holes are typically limited to about 1.5-2x boring bar diameter. As such, a 3/8 boring bar is only good to about 1/2 inches. After this it will chatter with variable results. All lathe tools work well only upto about 1-3x their size. Ie a 1/2 inch tool will only work well to 1-1.5 inches deep. However.. Alu is easy. Your problem is rake. CCMT is 7 degrees positive and you need to maintain this, *especially* when doing deep bores. With a -5 degrees boring bar, you are losing the benefits of the insert, and greatly increasing the problems of the overly long, slim, thin bar. It *can* be done with a 3/8 in alu but not well, imo. You need to have at least 7 degrees rake, even? a bit more. If you can make (buy) another bar (any steel) of near .7 inches, and have the bit be at zero-1 degree rake, it will go vastly better. For alu, at .75 inches or about 18 mm, I would recommend about 1000 rpm, 0.1 - 0.06 mm cuts. ? -- -hanermo |
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Re: Boring bar setup question
Thanks! I'll read the .pdf's when I get home.
One thing I see from the thread is I may have got the wrong inserts. I probably should have got 20.50's with the .008" nose instead of 20.51's with an .016" nose. WAM <ajawam2@...> wrote: ? There's a great article on boring bar chatter: |
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Re: Newb question about 1/8" cutting tools
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMany complain about stock carbide
stuff.
This is usually because the tools are not the right ones for the lathe ! Many cheap carbide sets are 0% and so on of an angle (rake). In industrial use, negative angles are common. This is because negative angle tools last lots longer, and produce parts very well for a long time, when sufficient tool pressure (derived from HP and rigidity) are used. These are impossible to utilise on common cheap 7x-11x lathes. A small, low powered 7x needs either HSS or a positive angle carbide insert, CCMT is a common, well known, very succesful, solution. 7 degrees positive rake. I use these on both 7x and 12x industrial stuff with great results. Industrial stuff often needs high pressure and heat to work well. Minimum cutting depths are 0.2- .3 or so mm in medium (100MM) diameters. This needs several Hp. ? -- -hanermo |
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Re: Boring bar setup question
There's a great article on boring bar chatter:
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A lot of math tho... Long thin boring bars are prone to that. Some comments here: Do you have a larger diameter boring bar? That may help... Also - tunable boring bar article: Basically add some mass to change the resonant frequency ... Ryan_Hodges wrote: Hi group! |
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Boring bar setup question
Hi group!
I recently bought a 3/8 indexable boring bar that uses CCMT inserts. The bar has 5¡ã negative built in. I'm using CCGT high polish 21.51 inserts and have a huge amount of chatter. I'm doing a 3/4 inch diameter hole just over 3" deep in 6161 aluminum. I've tried the bar above center and on center. Above seems to chatter a bit less but I still can't get a nice cut. Wrong insert, bad setup? Do I need a different bar? Just too deep of a hole and I'm going to have to live with it? Any tips, tricks, hints, etc will be greatly appreciated! Ryan |
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Re: tailstock Cam lock kit and F/O/R switch change
Ellis, I never thought of using a ring spanner,good idea.No work to do with your method. mike
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Re: tailstock Cam lock kit and F/O/R switch change
I have the kit while the install could be a little fiddly...to a point of annoying the result is great I also have drilled and tapped the 1/2" hole to a 1/2" NPT to accept brass insert so the shaft of the cam can ride on wider bushing type of a hole...worked for me. no miss-alignment?was?experienced?although I do take the?tail-stock?on and off?frequently?
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On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:52 PM, michael kolchins <kwoodhands@...> wrote:
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Re: tailstock Cam lock kit and F/O/R switch change
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Re: Horsepower Resistor
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Re: Horsepower Resistor
MERTON B BAKER
Surely there are radio supply stores in Australia? I know it's vast &
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populated mostly around the edges, but I would think that asking around would turn up a solution. Mert -----Original Message-----
From: 7x12minilathe@... [mailto:7x12minilathe@...]On Behalf Of Den Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 4:40 AM To: 7x12minilathe@... Subject: [7x12minilathe] Horsepower Resistor I am trying to by a .025 plugin horsepower resistor for a KBCL-240D board.I found some on US ebay for $5 but postage to Australia is $26. Is there some place that sells these with reasonable postage to Australia. I have probably missed the obvious. Cheers and thanks for your help. ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links |