George,
I read a lot, but rarely write, here -? I'm a tetraplegic using a manual chair and have a small shop (took 20 years to build). 2 grinders, 2 drill presses, 2 mini-lathes, band saw, miter saw, welding unit and i do a lot of bench work (filing, hand cut threads...)??
I keep a shop vac handy, wear a leather shop apron loosely so i can put the sides over the wheels.? I used to have a service dog and visited a local commercial machine shop, heard lots of warnings about his paws and swarf.? Between the apron and vacuum and
shaking my legs outside keep pretty clean.
Building shields and swarf trays helps too, but you have to reach over and around them.....
Ralph
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Yea, folks, many options. Many with a price tag. When I say I get stuff it not as bad as it sounds. Yea, I get a cut or stab once in a while but I really keep things clean. As to tires, I check them carefully frequently. So though I get some injuries,
it's rare enough to not need to alter anything that I do at this point. Maybe as I do more in the coming future I may have to change things. One option I will most likely make an apron secured to the table from one end to the other and then to me. Thus all
chips coming towards me and the floor will be stopped. Perfect ? Dobt it but it would be a huge improvement on what I have now. Problem now is that a stray cat gave birth to 4 kittens under my lathe table so my work has been stopped for a while.
george
On Monday, April 18, 2022, 10:59:59 AM PDT, Bill Williams <bwmsbldr1@...> wrote:
George, a set of “Speed Rim” wheels would let you keep your hands off of the tires.?? Bill in Boulder CO
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George, could you dedicate a wheelchair for use only in the shop? The chips that stick to the wheels or land on the chair may be traveling out of your shop…
I’d imagine that some of the swarf that the wheels pick up are probably getting transferred to your hands and causing cuts. Could you get an electric wheelchair for the shop, so you wouldn’t have to touch the wheels?
If that’s not possible, then maybe something to shield your hands? maybe you can move the wheels from the spokes, avoiding the rubber? while gloves are a dangerous hazard to wear while operating machine tools, maybe having a pair just for use while moving
the chair around?
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Bruce.
On Apr 17, 2022, at 10:58 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:
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Chips just fall where they want. I have trays, magnets, apron, vac, on and on and still they make it into my hands. As I use a wheelchair, chips or cuts in
my hands are common. So I just accept all that as part of the hobby. When put to bed my wife then uses a lint roller to pick up stuff from the bed, the chair and the floor. And I still get cuts. Most I cannot feel but the wife has eagle eyes. But yea, the
best I have found is to make it so the chips, swarf, etc, never leave the bench in the first place.
On Sunday, April 17, 2022, 05:59:16 PM PDT, Rob M. <robmuckley@...> wrote:
I wear a different pair of shoes and remove them before coming up from my basement.?
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Hi John thanks for the photos looks the business.
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Hi John would love to see the "chip trays" photos sound like it can solve my problem.
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Re: Free Machining pdfs Available Online
Guy Latuard is still around and open for business. I emailed him a few weeks ago and he responded to me quickly.
Dick
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Yea, folks, many options. Many with a price tag. When I say I get stuff it not as bad as it sounds. Yea, I get a cut or stab once in a while but I really keep things clean. As to tires, I check them carefully frequently. So though I get some injuries, it's rare enough to not need to alter anything that I do at this point. Maybe as I do more in the coming future I may have to change things. One option I will most likely make an apron secured to the table from one end to the other and then to me. Thus all chips coming towards me and the floor will be stopped. Perfect ? Dobt it but it would be a huge improvement on what I have now. Problem now is that a stray cat gave birth to 4 kittens under my lathe table so my work has been stopped for a while.
george
On Monday, April 18, 2022, 10:59:59 AM PDT, Bill Williams <bwmsbldr1@...> wrote:
George, a set of “Speed Rim” wheels would let you keep your hands off of the tires.?? Bill in Boulder CO ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
From: Bruce BourdonSent: Monday, April 18, 2022 08:07 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Chips in my Shop ? George, could you dedicate a wheelchair for use only in the shop? The chips that stick to the wheels or land on the chair may be traveling out of your shop… I’d imagine that some of the swarf that the wheels pick up are probably getting transferred to your hands and causing cuts. Could you get an electric wheelchair for the shop, so you wouldn’t have to touch the wheels? If that’s not possible, then maybe something to shield your hands? maybe you can move the wheels from the spokes, avoiding the rubber? while gloves are a dangerous hazard to wear while operating machine tools, maybe having a pair just for use while moving the chair around? ? Bruce.
On Apr 17, 2022, at 10:58 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:
? Chips just fall where they want. I have trays, magnets, apron, vac, on and on and still they make it into my hands. As I use a wheelchair, chips or cuts in my hands are common. So I just accept all that as part of the hobby. When put to bed my wife then uses a lint roller to pick up stuff from the bed, the chair and the floor. And I still get cuts. Most I cannot feel but the wife has eagle eyes. But yea, the best I have found is to make it so the chips, swarf, etc, never leave the bench in the first place. On Sunday, April 17, 2022, 05:59:16 PM PDT, Rob M. <robmuckley@...> wrote: I wear a different pair of shoes and remove them before coming up from my basement.?
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John, what really good ideas for wayward chip control. Everything is movable for cleaning!?? Bill in Boulder CO ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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From: John MattisSent: Monday, April 18, 2022 09:16 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Chips in my Shop ? Please see the attached pdf. If anyone needd?more explanations please let me know. ? On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 4:33 PM Johannes <johannes@...> wrote: Please send photo. Most of us have somebody that don’t like brass . Johannes ? Lavoll. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?My wife has been complaining for some time about the chips from my house getting tracked into the house from the garage shop.
I have been vacuuming snd swiping a lot by to no avail.
I have come up with removable "chip trays" that fit in front of the lathe and mill so the chips don't fall onto the floor.
Frequent vacuuming of the trays and around the machines now keeps everything in control.
Photos of the "chip trays" are available.
Regards,
John Mattis
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George, a set of “Speed Rim” wheels would let you keep your hands off of the tires.?? Bill in Boulder CO ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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From: Bruce BourdonSent: Monday, April 18, 2022 08:07 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Chips in my Shop ? George, could you dedicate a wheelchair for use only in the shop? The chips that stick to the wheels or land on the chair may be traveling out of your shop… I’d imagine that some of the swarf that the wheels pick up are probably getting transferred to your hands and causing cuts. Could you get an electric wheelchair for the shop, so you wouldn’t have to touch the wheels? If that’s not possible, then maybe something to shield your hands? maybe you can move the wheels from the spokes, avoiding the rubber? while gloves are a dangerous hazard to wear while operating machine tools, maybe having a pair just for use while moving the chair around? ? Bruce.
On Apr 17, 2022, at 10:58 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:
? Chips just fall where they want. I have trays, magnets, apron, vac, on and on and still they make it into my hands. As I use a wheelchair, chips or cuts in my hands are common. So I just accept all that as part of the hobby. When put to bed my wife then uses a lint roller to pick up stuff from the bed, the chair and the floor. And I still get cuts. Most I cannot feel but the wife has eagle eyes. But yea, the best I have found is to make it so the chips, swarf, etc, never leave the bench in the first place. On Sunday, April 17, 2022, 05:59:16 PM PDT, Rob M. <robmuckley@...> wrote: I wear a different pair of shoes and remove them before coming up from my basement.?
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??? ??? We called them " tire savers " & they mainly looked
more bitchin than they worked . It's been over 45 years since I
rode & I still don't miss repairing a sew-up tire .
??? ??? animal
On 4/18/2022 7:18 AM, Charles Kinzer
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Way back when I was road racing bicycles,
some fellows had a little curved stainless wire doo-dad that
continually rubbed on the tire to scrape off or knock off
little rocks or things that might get stuck on the tire.? I’m
not sure they worked very well.? (Some of us wore one leather
glove and, while riding, would occasionally just reach done
and hold the glove on the tires.? These were very thin and
light “sew up” tires.? I wore a single glove long before
Michael Jackson thought of it.)? And a similar gismo might not
be easy to put on a wheel chair.? Or maybe for wheel chair
wheels you might use little brushes.? And you would probably
need two on each wheel since, unlike a bicycle, you move
forward and backward.
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Thinking this might not be an original
idea, I found it isn’t.? I found this patent for a gadget and
perhaps something is available commercially:?
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Sent from for Windows
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George, could you dedicate a wheelchair for
use only in the shop? The chips that stick to the wheels or
land on the chair may be traveling out of your shop…
I’d imagine that some of the swarf that
the wheels pick up are probably getting transferred to your
hands and causing cuts. Could you get an electric wheelchair
for the shop, so you wouldn’t have to touch the wheels? If
that’s not possible, then maybe something to shield your
hands? maybe you can move the wheels from the spokes,
avoiding the rubber? while gloves are a dangerous hazard to
wear while operating machine tools, maybe having a pair just
for use while moving the chair around?
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Bruce.
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Chips
just fall where they want. I have trays,
magnets, apron, vac, on and on and still they
make it into my hands. As I use a wheelchair,
chips or cuts in my hands are common. So I just
accept all that as part of the hobby. When put
to bed my wife then uses a lint roller to pick
up stuff from the bed, the chair and the floor.
And I still get cuts. Most I cannot feel but the
wife has eagle eyes. But yea, the best I have
found is to make it so the chips, swarf, etc,
never leave the bench in the first place.
I
wear a different pair of shoes and
remove them before coming up from my
basement.?
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Weirdly it did not attach, but is in the ?interface.
Here’s the link:?
Clever solution, John!
Please see the attached pdf. If anyone needd?more explanations please let me know. Regards, John Mattis
On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 4:33 PM Johannes < johannes@...> wrote: Please send photo. Most of us have somebody that don’t like brass . Johannes ? Lavoll. ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
?My wife has been complaining for some time about the chips from my house getting tracked into the house from the garage shop.
I have been vacuuming snd swiping a lot by to no avail.
I have come up with removable "chip trays" that fit in front of the lathe and mill so the chips don't fall onto the floor.
Frequent vacuuming of the trays and around the machines now keeps everything in control.
Photos of the "chip trays" are available.
Regards,
John Mattis
--? Bruce Johnson
"Wherever you go, there you are." B. Banzai, PhD
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Please see the attached pdf. If anyone needd?more explanations please let me know. Regards, John Mattis
On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 4:33 PM Johannes < johannes@...> wrote: Please send photo. Most of us have somebody that don’t like brass . Johannes ? Lavoll. ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
?My wife has been complaining for some time about the chips from my house getting tracked into the house from the garage shop.
I have been vacuuming snd swiping a lot by to no avail.
I have come up with removable "chip trays" that fit in front of the lathe and mill so the chips don't fall onto the floor.
Frequent vacuuming of the trays and around the machines now keeps everything in control.
Photos of the "chip trays" are available.
Regards,
John Mattis
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Way back when I was road racing bicycles, some fellows had a little curved stainless wire doo-dad that continually rubbed on the tire to scrape off or knock off little rocks or things that might get stuck on the tire.? I’m not sure they worked very well.? (Some of us wore one leather glove and, while riding, would occasionally just reach done and hold the glove on the tires.? These were very thin and light “sew up” tires.? I wore a single glove long before Michael Jackson thought of it.)? And a similar gismo might not be easy to put on a wheel chair.? Or maybe for wheel chair wheels you might use little brushes.? And you would probably need two on each wheel since, unlike a bicycle, you move forward and backward. ? Thinking this might not be an original idea, I found it isn’t.? I found this patent for a gadget and perhaps something is available commercially:? ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: Bruce BourdonSent: Monday, April 18, 2022 7:07 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Chips in my Shop ? George, could you dedicate a wheelchair for use only in the shop? The chips that stick to the wheels or land on the chair may be traveling out of your shop… I’d imagine that some of the swarf that the wheels pick up are probably getting transferred to your hands and causing cuts. Could you get an electric wheelchair for the shop, so you wouldn’t have to touch the wheels? If that’s not possible, then maybe something to shield your hands? maybe you can move the wheels from the spokes, avoiding the rubber? while gloves are a dangerous hazard to wear while operating machine tools, maybe having a pair just for use while moving the chair around? ? Bruce.
On Apr 17, 2022, at 10:58 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:
? Chips just fall where they want. I have trays, magnets, apron, vac, on and on and still they make it into my hands. As I use a wheelchair, chips or cuts in my hands are common. So I just accept all that as part of the hobby. When put to bed my wife then uses a lint roller to pick up stuff from the bed, the chair and the floor. And I still get cuts. Most I cannot feel but the wife has eagle eyes. But yea, the best I have found is to make it so the chips, swarf, etc, never leave the bench in the first place. On Sunday, April 17, 2022, 05:59:16 PM PDT, Rob M. <robmuckley@...> wrote: I wear a different pair of shoes and remove them before coming up from my basement.?
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George, could you dedicate a wheelchair for use only in the shop? The chips that stick to the wheels or land on the chair may be traveling out of your shop…
I’d imagine that some of the swarf that the wheels pick up are probably getting transferred to your hands and causing cuts. Could you get an electric wheelchair for the shop, so you wouldn’t have to touch the wheels? If that’s not possible, then maybe something to shield your hands? maybe you can move the wheels from the spokes, avoiding the rubber? while gloves are a dangerous hazard to wear while operating machine tools, maybe having a pair just for use while moving the chair around?
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On Apr 17, 2022, at 10:58 PM, gcvisalia@... wrote:
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Chips just fall where they want. I have trays, magnets, apron, vac, on and on and still they make it into my hands. As I use a wheelchair, chips or cuts in my hands are common. So I just accept all that as part of the hobby. When put to bed my wife then uses a lint roller to pick up stuff from the bed, the chair and the floor. And I still get cuts. Most I cannot feel but the wife has eagle eyes. But yea, the best I have found is to make it so the chips, swarf, etc, never leave the bench in the first place.
george
On Sunday, April 17, 2022, 05:59:16 PM PDT, Rob M. <robmuckley@...> wrote:
I wear a different pair of shoes and remove them before coming up from my basement.?
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I've got a shop apron, mats in front of the machines, and a small door mat at the exit of my shop. But the only thing that keeps chips in the shop (mostly) is to keep a pair of "shop shoes" for use only in the shop - and they get removed before I leave the shop. I still get the occasional chip tracked in from begin caught on my clothing, but dedicated shop shoes.
We also have a "no shoes in the house" rule generally - a good idea for a lot of reasons (though we make allowances for guests).
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Another thing I learned from a wood carving group years ago is to use a shop apron with a full width pocket to catch errant chips before they hit the floor.
I have two shop aprons and a shop coat.
Dick
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Chips just fall where they want. I have trays, magnets, apron, vac, on and on and still they make it into my hands. As I use a wheelchair, chips or cuts in my hands are common. So I just accept all that as part of the hobby. When put to bed my wife then uses a lint roller to pick up stuff from the bed, the chair and the floor. And I still get cuts. Most I cannot feel but the wife has eagle eyes. But yea, the best I have found is to make it so the chips, swarf, etc, never leave the bench in the first place.
george
On Sunday, April 17, 2022, 05:59:16 PM PDT, Rob M. <robmuckley@...> wrote:
I wear a different pair of shoes and remove them before coming up from my basement.?
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My mini lathe is in a little shop in the
backyard. I have a 12 gallon Rigid vacuum that's used to tidy
things up while making chips and afterwards. Can't say as I've
tracked anything into the house using that method. No carpeted
floors in the house, all hardwood.
Stan
On 4/17/22 21:25, OldToolmaker via
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John,
My shop occupies a spare bedroom and the floor is all ceramic.
I have to be very conscientious about cleanliness. I have a
dedicated a pair of slip on shop shoes. I also have a Fein shop
vac dedicated to the shop with floor tools. I never leave the shop
without having it “spic and span”?
Pain in the butt but it has to be.
Dick
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John,
My shop occupies a spare bedroom and the floor is all ceramic.
I have to be very conscientious about cleanliness. I have a dedicated a pair of slip on shop shoes. I also have a Fein shop vac dedicated to the shop with floor tools. I never leave the shop without having it “spic and span”?
Pain in the butt but it has to be.
Dick
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My wife figured out the solution years ago, no shoes in the house.
On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 5:50 PM Charles Kinzer < ckinzer@...> wrote: Chips LOVE to get stuck in carpeting.? So I have a piece of scrap carpeting in front of the door from the garage into the house.? The chips get fooled into thinking it is somebody’s nice home carpeting and get stuck there. ? Chuck K. ? Sent from for Windows ? ? A shoe wiping floor mat on the way into the house also helps.
Roy ?
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Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California
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I’ve seen more than one person reccomend a pair of ’shop shoes’ and someplace ?to sit near the garage/shop door so you can change to the ‘house shoes’ when going back into the house to keep the chips tracked in to a minimum.?
or go whole hog and get some of these: ?
My wife has been complaining for some time about the chips from my house getting tracked into the house from the garage shop.
I have been vacuuming snd swiping a lot by to no avail.
I have come up with removable "chip trays" that fit in front of the lathe and mill so the chips don't fall onto the floor.
Frequent vacuuming of the trays and around the machines now keeps everything in control.
Photos of the "chip trays" are available.
Regards,
John Mattis
--? Bruce Johnson
"Wherever you go, there you are." B. Banzai, PhD
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John Mattis
OldToolmaker
