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Re: Mechanical Ring


 

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My curiosity doesn¡¯t run to $150 worth either.

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Having another look at the patent over at shows what I thought was a pin though the shaft isn¡¯t, the dashed lines just mean they aren¡¯t claiming a patent on the screwdriver slot (which I think is fake anyway).? That explains why the top lines are dashed and not solid like they should be.? One must remember to RTFM more often.

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I still think everything is pressed together in one form or another, that¡¯s the best from a manufacture & assembly view.

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There¡¯s not a lot of metal to bang a shaft into, but that sort of thing hasn¡¯t stopped watchmakers, although they have the advantage of peening over the back of the shaft to lock it in which doesn¡¯t happen on the ring.? It¡¯s hard to tell how thick the ring section actually is.

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Plenty of other ways to do it, more if you¡¯re the accident prone type.? One old lathe trick to use a knurl to raise the surface a bit, the shaft is now ¡®oversized¡¯ and can be pressed in.? Something like that would be the easiest way, it reduces the accuracy needed to make the parts a bit, you¡¯re sliding (or less) fit is now a friction fit.

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For a small diameter shaft like this you could probably hit the end of it with a punch to flare it out a bit. ?Or like they use to make rivets (and jewellers still do), you drop a pin onto a hole in a plate leaving a small bit protruding above the surface.? Then you hit it with a hammer.

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If you like things to be more complicated carpenters have what they call wedged blind tenons, like this: .? The wedge causes the tenon to expand, locking it.? That¡¯s a ¡®get it right the first¡¯ joint, once in it ain¡¯t coming out.?

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That would be a good choice for this ring, you just need to cut a slot in the shaft.

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I¡¯ve seen things that work like a collect in reverse (it has name, I can¡¯t remember it), the shaft has a hole & slits like a collet.? A ball bearing slightly over the hole size is the ¡®wedge¡¯, you drive in the shaft, the ¡®collect¡¯ expands slightly and everything locks together.? Like the blind tenon that ain¡¯t coming out either.

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I doubt it uses a wedge, but if you were after low tolerance machining (typical hobbyist) that¡¯d work well. ?Most of the parts are all that accurate, in some of the videos you can see the gears moving up & down on the shafts.? Not that you¡¯re want a close fit there given the amount of crap it¡¯ll collect.

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If you can whip up the tooth cutter, the rest probably wouldn¡¯t be much of a challenge.? It just rack & pinion around a ring, how hard can it be? ?:)

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Tony

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I?am not spending 150Euros let alone dollars on a gimmick?? : )

However I think the gear hubs are either attached using a very fine threaded hole or they would be "Peened" in place from the inside of the ring?

The gears I would imagine are done from a longer piece (Rod)?and then merely cut to their depth/width.

Welding stainless that thin would take a?certain type of magic?I am unaware of!

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I cannot imagine it being done any other way!

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John Kiely (IRL)

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From: Tony Smith
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:25 PM
Subject: RE: [7x12minilathe] Re: Mechanical Ring



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Having someone willing to spend the $150 to satisfy our curiosity would be nice.

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