Hi John,
I can't say I've seen their bodge other than in photos so don't know whether there was another better way of doing it. I'm guessing that what they did was the cheapest way of doing it, not the best.
Is it a case that a lot of people will not do any work of a size where it becomes a problem and how easy would it be to remove the shield and overcome the interlock , either temporarily or permanently?
Gerry
Leeds UK
From: "born4something" <ajs@...>
Reply-To: 7x12minilathe@...
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Re: mini laths
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:02:58 -0000
Sorry Gerry,
I can't let 'em off that easy. They could have added a chuck guard
that retained the rated capacity of their product. I agree a chuck
guard is mainly nuisance value BUT SIEG STUFFED UP.
John
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "gerry waclawiak"
<gerrywac@...> wrote:
It is only relatively recently that Health and Safety regulations
on both
sides of the pond have led to the fitting of the safety guard on a
machine
that was never designed with it in mind and this makers "bodge"
has affected
the capacity. My 3 YO machine came without and the full 7" is
useable and I
dont think that the lack of a guard is an issue.
All machinery is inherently dangerous for the careless and unwary.
Gerry
Leeds UK
From: "Mike Payson" <mike@...>
Reply-To: 7x12minilathe@...
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: mini laths
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 00:58:17 -0700
I'm sure it would be easy enough to remove the chuck guard, I'm
just
annoyed
that I have to in order to use the advertised capacity of the
machine. I'm
sure there is some bizarro world where the 10" part makes sense,
but there
is no way that this should be sold as a 7" swing when the only
possible way
to use it as such is to permanently disable the safety features
(granted, I
think the chuck guard just gets in the way, but that's beside the
point).
On 3/19/07, born4something <ajs@...> wrote:
Hi Mike,
And I think you'll find they will happily supply a 6 1/4" face
plate
to fit this lathe despite the fact that the guard and
associated
kill switch must be removed to use the faceplate. That's what
I was
sold to go with my 7x12.
John
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Mike Payson" <mike@>
wrote:
FYI, I bought the newest incarnation of the HF 7x10 (93212)
with
the recent
30% off coupon. It's bad enough that it is 4" shorter then
any of
the others
(& two inches shorter then advertised), but it actually only
has a
6" usable
swing. I'm not sure if it's standard to all of the 7x's now,
but
the HF adds
a chuck saftey shield that is only 3" from the center of the
chuck, so
without removing it, somehow moving your work 3" or so from
the
spindle, the
largest work you can possibly turn is 6". I'm taking it back,
though I
haven't yet decided whether to replace it with the Homier,
the HF
9x20
(which they will honor the 30% off for, so $560) or the Griz
G0602
10x22,
which is really more then I should spend, but a much better
(and
better
equipped) lathe.
Decisions, decisons... Any suggestions?
On 3/19/07, Ed <edo@> wrote:
I just ordered a Homier for which based on my research was
the
best
buy I could find. It costs $299 and the only accessory it
comes
with
is a fixed center.
Cummins sells the same machine but it comes with extras for
$399. For
the extra $100 you get (1) Tailstock Drill Chuck 1-13mm
(with
key, (2)
Moving Steady, (3) Fixed Steady, (4) 6 1/4" diameter Face
Plate,
(5) 5
piece cutting tool set. Bought separately, these total
$103, so
unless
you need all of them, I didn't see it as worth it.
Homier also sells an Accessory Kit for $99 (which I got
for 10%
off at
their eBay store). It includes (1) Tailstock chuck, (2)
Face
plate,
(3) Lathe dog, (4) Rolling center, (5) Knurling tool, (6)
Follow
rest,
and (7) Spindle center. I figured these would cost $128
separately, so
I thought it a better deal than the Cummins with
accessories.
Shipping for the Homier was $6 cheaper ($49 vs $55), but
what
really
swayed me to Homier was the customer service. Cummins was
real
slow to
answer emails, 3 - 4 days, and never did tell me if the
lathe
was in
stock.
I ordered the Homier on-line Friday night when I saw they
went
from
Out of Stock to Supplies Limited. I called this morning
(Monday)
to
see if they got the order and was told it was being
shipped. Got
email
with UPS tracking number this afternoon and it's scheduled
for
delivery Wednesday.
If I had the money, my first choice would have been the
MicroMark
(82710), $673 delivered. It's 2" longer, has inch lead
screws,
and a
digital speed readout.
Other options are the Grizzly (G8688) at $700 delivered
(some
think
it's worth it for the better customer service) and Harbor
Freight
(33684) which is a 7x10 (2" shorter). It's $419 but is
available
in
stores and with a 30% off coupon can be had for $293 +
sales
tax. (The
coupons come out every few months.)
Hope this helps, and let us know what you decide.
Ed
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