You didn't read the link.? Read my ChatGPT transcript where even it states it's not intelligence.
AI has been here since the Perceptron in the 50's. But the first AI winter occurred when the hippies figured out it was all hype. And then they went on to prove entanglement via? Bell's Inequality in favor of Bohr over Einstein.
Smart bunch.
I design that hardware.? Just finished a PCB last week with an NVIDIA ORIN,? It's not intelligent.
Really read that first link.? I work with too many professors that agree - not intelligence.
As Prof Jones at Princeton states: "Big part of what I've been working on has? been the rather remarkable rebranding of linear algebra and ml as AI. "? LLM's are an extension of what we used to call expert systems. Just that now any idiot can use them.
All it is... The NVIDIA CEO is starting to act like Dr. No from that Bond flick. Bitcoin mining went away; gotta do something to sell those math engines. One client I have actually met him, and it's been two years and NVIDIA's crew is still trying to get the stuff to work like they promised.
Naw man, it's a lot of BS...marketturds if you will.
As to engineering, machining, etc.. it can be very helpful as an expert system.? But it'll never have the creativity of a skilled machinist or engineer.
Just a parrot...
We're getting off topic here...? anyone got any cool mods to their lathe?
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On 4/29/2025 3:12 AM, Tony Smith via groups.io wrote: Man, that's some "old man yells at cloud" energy. Abe Simpson would be proud.
C'mon, you've seen this before. New tech over-hyped by its creators, with the "we'll all be doomed!" crowd yelling in the background. It'll be brain implants or cyborgs in another decade.
It happened for the internet (remember that fad?), computers, mobile phones, point-of-sale machines, TV, calculators, radio, books and probably even paper (if stone is good enough for God, it's good enough for the rest of us!).
While I don't disagree with you, like everything else AI is here to stay. So what if it's wrong, so is everything else.
Yeah it¡¯ll make the kids stoopid, so did everything else. Especially jazz music.
But what if it stops working you say? Well, we said that about everything else as well. Imagine installing electronic cash registers and the power goes out! How will I pay? We'll all be doomed!
But what about AI slop? Well, as writer Theodore Sturgeon replied when asked if 90% of science fiction was crud, replied with "Sure, but 90% of everything is crud."
AI is just another tool. Like all tools it has its uses. I save stuff I find interesting, and on my PC a folder eventually had about 40,000 pictures in it. Of course I put them in subfolders, like clocks, boxes, etc. But I rarely renamed them, so most of them were called something like ergv45yb34tb3q4.jpg
Anyway, one day I fired up Google Gemini and set it loose on that folder. And it did a really good of identifying and renaming those images. Some were incredibly spot-on, like this:
¡°Alice in Wonderland Playing Card and Tea Party Silhouettes on a Purple Textured Background.jpg¡±
I mean yeah, that¡¯s what it is.
It was kinda fascinating watching it work it way thru the images. Some names were funny, some were wrong, most were rather bland ("a cat cut out of wood") but better than what I had. At least now I could search for "cat" and find something.
As an aside go here: and download "Everything". It will index your PC and instantly find anything. It's very good. You can also set your own filters, eg I added one called "Vectors - ext:ai;cdr;dwg;dxf;svg" that returns files with those extensions.
I'll leave you to complain about them damn kids not learning cursive handwriting anymore (or any handwriting really), and toss in this as well:
Tony
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of WAM via groups.io Sent: Monday, 28 April 2025 11:48 pm To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] Parting Off Stands for Any Idiot - The tech industry has devolved into one driven by glitzy soundbites that mean nothing, infested with a bunch of "Man Bun, Java Jockey, Pitiful Python Pirates" whom were told by their parents that STEM was better than being an archaeologist (or whatever line of work they really wanted to do [IF ANY]), being led around by their nose (and promises of BMW's and sapphire martinis at happy hour) by a clownfest of technically illiterate, greedy business monkeys. This is getting more endemic across the tech arena in general. Why AI Will Never Really Exist... AI = Any Idiot... That's what AI really means. <> "Generative AI, Bull$^# as a Service" <> And it's true. The amount of really bad info on the internet - like soldering to LiPo batteries or replacing a high pressure hose fitting with a Home Depot hose clamp - makes me think THAT's how AI will kill us off. By feeding on bad info and stoopid people will believe it. Add to that the "MAD COW" disease - Model autophagy disorder (see this at Cornell - <> ) Press Pause on the Silicon Valley Hype Machine <> <> > chatgpt-overrated-hype.html
"Why Is AI So Dumb" IEEE SPECTRUM <> <> > k2fpbs6N3DtYaBiMqsYFKnCmQa1r8wSoHxF16fAOhe3kBiQL7Bg=
Professor Matthew Jones of Princeton on C-SPAN titled "The History of AI" where at the end he mentions the term "parroting". <> Note he also mentioned to me the "Big part of what I've been working on has been the rather remarkable rebranding of linear algebra and ml as AI. " On the Dangers of Stochastic Parrots" | Proceedings of the 2021 ACM Conference on Fairness, Accountability, and Transparency <> Wall Street Asks If AI's Juice Is Worth The Squeeze Analysts and one very prominent AI academic think the bubble is about to burst. <> <> > squeeze.html
Has the AI bubble burst? Wall Street wonders if artificial intelligence will ever make money <> <> > will-ai-ever-make-money/index.html
¡°In the information society, nobody thinks. We expected to banish paper, but we actually banished thought.¡± ~~ Michael Crichton, Jurassic Park "Two percent of the people think, Three percent of the people think they think, And ninety-five percent of the people would rather die than think." ~~ George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950) "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." ~~ Frank Zappa (1940-1993) On 4/28/2025 3:29 AM, Ellis Cory via groups.io wrote:
Hi everyone. I expect most of us have charts etc that give us all the information we need.
In any case, I thought AI stood for ¨C Artificial Incompetence !!! Ellis I know AI is all the rage, but it is not difficult to part with Artificial Intelligence. -- Evan Lathe: 1955 Boxford Model A with screw cutting gearbox, power feed with several accessories, hand tools and a pillar drill press.
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Displays drill sizes for tapping threads at any percent thread depth (with full explanations).
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