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Re: New trav-a-dial


 

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On 3/30/24 9:38 AM, Charles Kinzer wrote:
There are some ways to design zero backlash.? I don't know what is in a Trav-a-dial.? But one way is to use a split gear (imaging two thin gear disks) that are spring loaded in opposite rotation directions so there is no space between teeth on the mating gear.? Another is to spring load the entire gear to keep it fully meshed with another gear.? Another is to simply make the gears precise enough, so they have little or no backlash.? The only one I remember personally seeing in anything is the split gear scheme.

This is not from a Trav-a-dial, but just a general image of what the split gear scheme looks like.






In searching around for some disassembly info, I did find a mention that they used anti-backlash gears, but not specifically how, such as in this statement.

"... I did not want to open the thing up again. The anti-backlash gears are what is being wound up that the wire holds in place during assembly. This is very important to make sure that there is no backlash in the measurement. .."

Another post mentioned that older units had anti-backlash gears, so maybe newer ones don't?? Or do it some other way?
That split gear is a pretty slick setup , I can think of a few applications where one could / should have been used .

thanks

animal

I then found a YouTube with a fellow disassembling one.? At bout 8:00 you can see the spring loaded gear.? However, it seems to be a single gear spring loaded in one direction.? I'm not able to figure out in my mind how that works, maybe somebody else can visualize it.? However, it is not spring loaded for now reason and must be the main ant-backlash component.



Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer




On Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 08:59:40 AM PDT, paraflyr <frechettejoe4@...> wrote:


As a former Trav-a-dial user, I don't know how they did it, but there was no detectable backlash whatsoever. The needle simply reversed direction with the carriage with no pause. It was very precise engineering, which is why they were so expensive new.
Someone suggested a magnetic mount... the Trav-a-dial required considerable pressure toward the vertical front way face to have the microscopic random pattern on the hardened wheel emboss a mating pattern on the way, well beyond, I suspect, what a manageable size magnet could hold.

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