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Re: New topic ¡ª- Cutting a thread for a very old wooden clamp.


 

A question arises "How precise do wooden threads need to be?" These are wooden Jogenson clamps?? ?Bill


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 12:17?PM mike allen <animal@...> wrote:

??? ??? Depending on the length of the thread & diameter of the piece ya may be needin to use a Follower rest in the setup .

??? good luck , & remember pictures or it didn't happen

??? ??? animal

On 1/16/24 8:36 AM, Bruce J wrote:
On Jan 16, 2024, at 12:39 AM, DAVID WILLIAMS via <d.i.williams@...> wrote:

Dear All,

I realise this is both part Mini lathe and part wood lathe. But to me the metal lathe part is more important. Hence my question to you all.

I have a couple of these old wooden clamps - probably antique. They are just like the metalwork ones we use, but much much larger. One has a severely damaged (external) threads.

I would like to try(?) and cut the replacement long wooden thread on my 7 x 12. So, I bought a second hand thread chaser on eBay. It¡¯s 6 TPI and according to the chart on the Little Machine Shop site - the gear set up is no problem on my imperial lathe.
[JFI it¡¯s Real Bull model purchased from Chester Machines (in the UK) some 20+ years ago. If that¡¯s at all relevant?]

You can chuck an appropriate dowel and single thread it to start, but make sure what thread it is it might be some form similar to an acme thread. You may well have to grind your own threading tool.

You can use a chaser tool, (they used to be used for cutting threads in metal, too) but be prepared to practice. In metal they were also often used freehand ;ike on a wood lathe.?

With the coarse thread, you may well be better off with a hand crank on the lathe, too.



The thread chaser cuts multiple threads at the same time and the tool (normally hand held I understand) needs to be held at ~ 90 degrees to the thread, unlike the usual angle for cutting one side of a metal thread. OR, if you are doing it by hand, do you angle the thread chaser so it cuts a series of slightly deeper threads. Thus the tool needs to be held in the tool post at a similar angle?


I¡¯ll have to dig out my wood lathe books, but this article on chasing threads pn a wood lathe indicates not.


Assuming I can sharpen it correctly and clamp it to the tool post, can anyone offer any suggestions or guidance? Do you cut it in multiple passes, in a similar way to a metal thread?
I assume I¡¯m going to have to make and use some sort of a travelling steady. My idea is to clamp it in the chuck and use a small freely rotating chuck at the tailstock end.

I believe I can get a much better quality and accurate thread using the gears than trying to use it hand held - on a very long tool holder, the same as the ones on a wood lathe. I have to check but I think the wood for the screws is normally Beech, if that¡¯s relevant?

You want very hard wood Beech is one, or lignum vitae etc. the article above lists some suitable species.

Thank you in anticipation.

David of Abingdon(UK)






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Bruce Johnson

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