Stagecoach Yorkshire - allocation changes and coronavirus update

A bit of a bumper update - probably my last one for a while due to the current climate...

First up, recent repaints in to the new Stagecoach livery are Scania/E400s 15824/5 (YN12 GYO/P) and E200 36183 (YN60 FKU).? Currently in for painting is E200MMC 26030 (YX65 RBZ).

The recorded allocation changes for the 4 weeks ending 28th March 2020 (Period 12) were as follows:

22627 YN08 JHH RH to CD
22629 YN08 JFJ RH to CD
35262 YN56 SHJ CD to BY *
36071 SN56 AYF BY to CD
36986 SN63 YPJ CD to RH
36989 SN63 YPM CD to RH
36990 SN63 YPO CD to RH

* 35262 has yet to physically move from Chesterfield, and is unlikely to do so now for some time due to the current circumstances

Obviously since the end of the reporting period a large number of vehicles have been parked up and SORN as operations move to a permanent Sunday service (with a few enhancements) for the foreseeable future.

The following lists are the vehicles currently operational.? Everything else is parked up:

Barnsley (PVR reduced from 72 to 36): 10656-62, 15661-4/6, 19559, 22632/6/8, 26020-2/85-7, 27187/8/206, 28671-4, 36178/80/83, 37108/45, 37451-6, 47723/4/6/7.

Rawmarsh (PVR reduced from 50 to 21): 26023-33, 2675-8, 36988/90, 37086-91/98-105.

Ecclesfield (PVR reduced from 52 to 26): 15707-11, 36186-8, 36459, 36715-8, 36985, 39106-18, 47464/9, 47654.

Holbrook (PVR reduced from 42 to 25): 12101-7, 12166-77/9, 37606-15.

Chesterfield (PVR reduced from 80 to 45): 11120-5, 15190-2, 22554/5, 22612-4/27-30/35/43-7, 26081-4, 35229-33/61/2, 36071, 36444-7, 36991/3, 37181-6, 47320/2-5.

National Express unit (PVR reduced from 9 to 1): 54411/2

The above liable to change depending how long the coronavirus pandemic lasts.??

Much respect to the drivers still on the road, to the office/depot staff who have worked flat out to formulate and implement the temporary timetables and keep the wheels turning, and to the drivers who have stood down for the foreseeable.

Stay safe everyone

Ian?

Re: Stagecoach Yorkshire 20/02

#149

If true this is very interesting and just adds to Paul's reply about it being half arsed!?

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On Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 00:55 Paul McNamara, <citybus2500@...> wrote:

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More systamtic of the half arsed side saddled approach to this rebranding so far demonstrated by Stagecoach.

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In one respect, if you are going for a unified rebranding then yes, you should repaint anything that you have decided that should be repainted into the new livery.

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However, you should have changed the logos on all the buses, regardless of the livery.

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The list of "expemptions" to the new livery grows by the day. Not only have they claimed that they are "simplyfying and strengthing the brand" by replacing one livery with three liveries . . . . there are numerous examples now where even this muddled approach won't be applied.

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The promises to impove the digital offering (website, app etc . . . .) hasn't happened. Brian has constantly prattled on about the importance of a good website etc, but here we are, several years later and the other side of a corporate relauch and Stagecoach still have the worse website and app of any of the major bus companies in the UK.

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The whole thing is just a complete mess and any self respecting marketing or brand specialist would be holding their head in their hands. Sadly, Stagecoach is falling further and further behind and this half arsed rebrand (created by someone who's same ideas were rejected by another group) sadly confirm this downward spiral.

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Paul

Sent:?Thursday, February 20, 2020 at 9:31 PM
From:?"traction1@... via Groups.Io" <traction1=[email protected]>
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [ydbn] Stagecoach Yorkshire 20/02

I'm sure it's just too keep transport historians on their toes in 30 years time.
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Tony

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On Thu, 20 Feb 2020, 21:29 Dale Tringham via Groups.Io, <daletringham=[email protected]> wrote:

Ian,
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Amazed that a 56-reg Dart/Pointer is getting the new livery !!

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Dale

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From: "ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io" <yorkshirebus=[email protected]>

Date: 20/02/2020 21:21 (GMT+00:00)

To: [email protected], [email protected]

Subject: [ydbn] Stagecoach Yorkshire 20/02

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Gold livered Scania/E400s 15535 (VX59 JCZ) and 15611 (OU10 BHE) are now at Barnsley depot for use primarily on service X10 (Barnsley - Leeds) alongside 15609/10. Note Mon-Fri the X10 requires 3 vehicles, 2 of which stay on the X10 all day and the 3rd on the X10 during the am and pm peaks, with a round trip each on 57,59 and 66 in between.

Dart/Pointer 35236 (YN56 OMS) is currently in the process of receiving the new livery.

On order for later in the year are 18x long Enviro 200MMCs for Rawmarsh depot. Further details to be confirmed nearer delivery.

Ian

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Covid19 / Bus Service Reductions

#148

Afternoon all

I gather both Stagecoach Yorkshire and First South Yorkshire (with presumably others to confirm the arrangements in due course) are to drop down to a operating a Sunday service (with additional am peak extras) on all days from Monday.

First have already parked up numerous vehicles - all the remaining B7Ls and the majority of the remaining B7TLs - for the foreseeable future. Likewise, Stagecoach have parked up a number of Tridents, MANs and E200s.

Stay safe everyone

Ian

Re: TJ Walsh, Halifax

#147

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A sad day has come !

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io
Sent: 23 March 2020 21:12
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ydbn] TJ Walsh, Halifax

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TJ Walsh have announced this afternoon that they are to cease operations at the end of service this Wednesday (25th March).

Ian

Virus-free.

TJ Walsh, Halifax

#146

TJ Walsh have announced this afternoon that they are to cease operations at the end of service this Wednesday (25th March).

Ian

Re: Stagecoach Yorkshire 20/03

#145

I saw that this morning. First decker I've seen 'live'.?

Too much white. Photos later.?

Tony

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On Fri, 20 Mar 2020, 18:14 ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io, <yorkshirebus=[email protected]> wrote:

Chesterfield depot Scania/E400 15824 (YN12 GYO) is the latest recipient of the new Stagecoach livery.

Ian

Stagecoach Yorkshire 20/03

#144

Chesterfield depot Scania/E400 15824 (YN12 GYO) is the latest recipient of the new Stagecoach livery.

Ian

Stagecoach Yorkshire - revised service

#143

From Monday, and in view of the Corona virus pandemic, services will operate to their Saturday timetables on all routes, with a few exceptions (those being the 107 in Rotherham, 7a, 58 and M92 in Sheffield, and the Matlock Town services where no Saturday service exists - these will operate as normal).

Other operators are expected to implement similar changes from Monday.

Ian

Re: Stagecoach Yorkshire 15/03

#142

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Yep, just a complete half arsed mess.

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And what is the definition of "long distance"? Seems we have E300s and E400s appearing in the orange livery . . . .

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Brand simplification my backside.

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Paul McNamara
Photos from Europe, the Far East and Australia - http://www.citybus.xyz/
Photos from the Gulf Region - http://citybus.shutterfly.com/

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Sent:?Monday, March 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM
From:?"ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io" <yorkshirebus@...>
To:[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [ydbn] Stagecoach Yorkshire 15/03

Not sure what version number it is, but blue front apart from the panel below the windscreen which is white and has the new Stagecoach logo applied there.? Headlight surrounds are black.

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It is all rather "Black Prince" isn't it!

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Ian

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On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 4:47 PM Paul McNamara <citybus2500@...> wrote:

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and what version of the livery has this got?

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We are already on mark 3 . . . . .
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Paul McNamara
Photos from Europe, the Far East and Australia -
Photos from the Gulf Region -

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Sent:?Sunday, March 15, 2020 at 12:35 PM
From:?"ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io" <yorkshirebus=[email protected]>
To:?"[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject:?[ydbn] Stagecoach Yorkshire 15/03

Barnsley depot Enviro200 36180 (YN60 FKR) has been repainted in to the new Stagecoach livery. Sister 36183 (YN60 FKU) has taken its place in the paint shop.

Ian

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Re: Stagecoach Yorkshire 15/03

#141

Not sure what version number it is, but blue front apart from the panel below the windscreen which is white and has the new Stagecoach logo applied there.? Headlight surrounds are black.

It is all rather "Black Prince" isn't it!

Ian

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On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 4:47 PM Paul McNamara <citybus2500@...> wrote:

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and what version of the livery has this got?

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We are already on mark 3 . . . . .
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Paul McNamara
Photos from Europe, the Far East and Australia -
Photos from the Gulf Region -

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Sent:?Sunday, March 15, 2020 at 12:35 PM
From:?"ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io" <yorkshirebus=[email protected]>
To:?"[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject:?[ydbn] Stagecoach Yorkshire 15/03

Barnsley depot Enviro200 36180 (YN60 FKR) has been repainted in to the new Stagecoach livery. Sister 36183 (YN60 FKU) has taken its place in the paint shop.

Ian

First South Yorks

#140

The error with the fleet numbers applied to 2 of the 3 on loan E200MMCs was corrected last weekend, with revised fleet numbers being applied to the vehicles:

YX20 OCE, which initially carried 44961 () is now numbered 44693 ().

YX18 KNM which initially?carried 44693 () is now 44691 ()

YX68 UKT remains as 44692.

Ian

Re: Stagecoach Yorkshire 15/03

#139

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and what version of the livery has this got?

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We are already on mark 3 . . . . .
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Paul McNamara
Photos from Europe, the Far East and Australia - http://www.citybus.xyz/
Photos from the Gulf Region - http://citybus.shutterfly.com/

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Sent:?Sunday, March 15, 2020 at 12:35 PM
From:?"ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io" <yorkshirebus@...>
To:?"[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject:?[ydbn] Stagecoach Yorkshire 15/03

Barnsley depot Enviro200 36180 (YN60 FKR) has been repainted in to the new Stagecoach livery. Sister 36183 (YN60 FKU) has taken its place in the paint shop.

Ian

Stagecoach Yorkshire 15/03

#138

Barnsley depot Enviro200 36180 (YN60 FKR) has been repainted in to the new Stagecoach livery. Sister 36183 (YN60 FKU) has taken its place in the paint shop.

Ian

Re: Stagecoach Yorkshire 20/02

#137

Further to the below, Dart 35236 has returned to Barnsley depot resplendent in the new Stagecoach livery.

Ian

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On Thursday, February 20, 2020, ian@yorkshirebus <yorkshirebus@...> wrote:
> Gold livered Scania/E400s 15535 (VX59 JCZ) and 15611 (OU10 BHE) are now at Barnsley depot for use primarily on service X10 (Barnsley - Leeds) alongside 15609/10. Note Mon-Fri the X10 requires 3 vehicles, 2 of which stay on the X10 all day and the 3rd on the X10 during the am and pm peaks, with a round trip each on 57,59 and 66 in between.
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> Dart/Pointer 35236 (YN56 OMS) is currently in the process of receiving the new livery.
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> On order for later in the year are 18x long Enviro 200MMCs for Rawmarsh depot. Further details to be confirmed nearer delivery.
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> Ian

Stagecoach Yorkshire 26029

#136

Rawmarsh depot 26029 (YX65 RBY) has become the 2nd E200MMC to be repainted in to the new Stagecoach livery - or what is now the new Stagecoach livery!

26029 has a revised paint application on the front, unlike 26026 (the first one to be painted) the front bumper on 26029 is blue (not orange) but the panel above the bumper where the Stagecoach logo is applied is white (not blue like on 26026).

Or to put it simply, 26029 has a blue front bar one area which is white. In my opinion it looks better than 26026 without the orange, but then again it would be hard to make something look worse...

The version as applied to 26029 is now the group 'standard' layout for the new livery and as such 26026 has returned to the paintshop at Chesterfield to have its front modified to match 26029.

Ian

Re: First South Yorkshire

#135

Apologies, the 3 loan E200MMCs are numbered in the opposite order - 44691 is YX20 OCE, 44692 is YX68 UKT and 44693 is YX18 KNM.

Ian

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On Wednesday, March 4, 2020, ian@yorkshirebus <yorkshirebus@...> wrote:
> To assist with the ongoing vehicle shortage at Olive Grove depot 3x ADL Enviro200 MMCs have been received on loan from Dawson Rentals - YX18 KNM, YX68 UKT and YX20 OCE. They are allocated fleet numbers 44691-3 and are all in ‘dealer white’.?
> Ian

Re: Stagecoach Yorkshire - Allocation Changes - Period 11

#134

Chris

15690 for engine repairs.??

39102 had RTC damage and believe 39105 (and 39104 which is also off) are for yet more component failures to be fixed.

Ian

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On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:01 AM Chris Maxfield via Groups.Io <maltabus=[email protected]> wrote:

Ian

Any particular reason why 15960 and especially 39102/5 are out of/into reserve?

Ta

On Thu, 5 Mar 2020, 09:52 ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io, <yorkshirebus=[email protected]> wrote:
Recorded allocation changes?for the 4 weeks ending 29th February 2020 were as follows:

15611??? OU10 BHE??????????? res????????? to??????????? BY

15690??? YN60 ACZ???????????? CD????????? to??????????? reserve

15826??? YN12 GYR??????????? res.??????? to??????????? CD

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35114??? YN06 WCR?????????? CD????????? to??????????? Stagecoach West

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39102??? SN18 XWO????????? res.??????? to??????????? ED

39105??? SN18 XWS?????????? ED?????????? to??????????? reserve

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47725??? YN10 AGV?????????? BY?????????? to??????????? reserve

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53714??? YN60 ACJ???????????? BY?????????? to??????????? Stagecoach Bluebird

Ian

Re: Stagecoach Yorkshire - Allocation Changes - Period 11

#133

Ian

Any particular reason why 15960 and especially 39102/5 are out of/into reserve?

Ta

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On Thu, 5 Mar 2020, 09:52 ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io, <yorkshirebus=[email protected]> wrote:

Recorded allocation changes?for the 4 weeks ending 29th February 2020 were as follows:

15611??? OU10 BHE??????????? res????????? to??????????? BY

15690??? YN60 ACZ???????????? CD????????? to??????????? reserve

15826??? YN12 GYR??????????? res.??????? to??????????? CD

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35114??? YN06 WCR?????????? CD????????? to??????????? Stagecoach West

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39102??? SN18 XWO????????? res.??????? to??????????? ED

39105??? SN18 XWS?????????? ED?????????? to??????????? reserve

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47725??? YN10 AGV?????????? BY?????????? to??????????? reserve

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53714??? YN60 ACJ???????????? BY?????????? to??????????? Stagecoach Bluebird

Ian

Stagecoach Yorkshire - Allocation Changes - Period 11

#132

Recorded allocation changes?for the 4 weeks ending 29th February 2020 were as follows:

15611??? OU10 BHE??????????? res????????? to??????????? BY

15690??? YN60 ACZ???????????? CD????????? to??????????? reserve

15826??? YN12 GYR??????????? res.??????? to??????????? CD

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35114??? YN06 WCR?????????? CD????????? to??????????? Stagecoach West

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39102??? SN18 XWO????????? res.??????? to??????????? ED

39105??? SN18 XWS?????????? ED?????????? to??????????? reserve

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47725??? YN10 AGV?????????? BY?????????? to??????????? reserve

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53714??? YN60 ACJ???????????? BY?????????? to??????????? Stagecoach Bluebird

Ian

First South Yorkshire

#131

To assist with the ongoing vehicle shortage at Olive Grove depot 3x ADL Enviro200 MMCs have been received on loan from Dawson Rentals - YX18 KNM, YX68 UKT and YX20 OCE. They are allocated fleet numbers 44691-3 and are all in ‘dealer white’.?

Ian