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Re: First Leeds

 

The Streetdecks have had similar moves imposed in Bristol (those on the long-distance service to Wells through the Mendips, swapped for Enviro 400s). I wonder if Bristol - or Norwich - may end up with the Streetdecks potentially ousted in Sheffield?

That said the need for them in Bristol may be lessened now as the new Scania gas-powered 'deckers are beginning to arrive.

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 21:23, ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io <yorkshirebus=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all

It seems there's been (yet another) change of plan:

36221-4/7 and 36237 are due to move to First SY (Olive Grove) this week.? There's a suggestion that all the remaining members of this batch (36221-7/35-53) are to move to South Yorkshire in due course POSSIBLY at the expense of some of the StreetDecks which are being killed on the hills in Sheffield.

Ian

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 6:42 PM Adam Williams <amodelofcontrol@...> wrote:
Mark

there's a problem there already, as 37216-20 are with Essex. 36221-27 and 36235-53 are the only ones left to move on now.?

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 18:36, Mark oneill via Groups.Io <mark73bigboy=[email protected]> wrote:
First Cymru are expecting to replace the coaches on the X10 in the New Year apparently according to what I heard locally(I live near Cardiff by the way). If there's any logic they will send the examples numbered immediately following those they sent down this way for the Unibus services-but this is First we are talking about obviously!!!
On Monday, December 2, 2019, 2:50:22 PM GMT, Adam Williams <amodelofcontrol@...> wrote:


Ian

this makes more sense!

Regarding the cascades, I understood Bristol were expecting 27 of the "Olympic" B9TLs, but I don't know if that includes the seven that went to Bath a while back or not. Cymru are meant to be getting four 'deckers to refurb for the X10 (presumably also "Olympic" B9TLs), and Norwich was "supposedly" due whatever was left of the type.



On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 14:43, ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io <yorkshirebus=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Adam

I need to sit down and work it all out but I gather there's 2 separate batches being delivered here - 35600 etc for Bramley and then "some", reportedly up to 35595, for Hunslet Park to top up the allocation for the Headingley/Beeston and Dewsbury Road batches...

Ian

On Monday, December 2, 2019, Adam Williams <amodelofcontrol@...> wrote:
> Ian
> interestingly one of the latest arrivals reported elsewhere is 35587 - which is interesting as the others that have arrived so far are numbered between 35600-26 (by no means all appear to have arrived yet). So we're going to have a few gaps, even after this batch of 36 have arrived...
> On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 12:51, ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io <yorkshirebus=[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The first of the latest batch of StreetDecks have started to enter service at Bramley depot - these being the ones that were ready to be shipped when WrightBus went pop, and have arrived without PDIs or being registered.? As such, they have been registered by First locally as follows:
>> Fleet No Registration No
>> 35600 YE69 YFV
>> 35601 YE69 YFW
>> 35602 YE69 YFX
>> 35603 YE69 YFY
>> 35604 YE69 YFZ
>> 35605 YE69 YGA
>> They have the grey 'wedge' fronts and are intended (though not necessarily?to be found on!) routes 4 and 16.
>> Ian
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Re: First Leeds

 

Having done some searching on Flickr, it does indeed look like something has gone awry with the planned registrations.

Ignore the list I previously published, and instead go with...

35600 - YE69 YFX
35601 - YE69 YFW
35602 - YE69 YFV
35603 - YE69 YFU
35604 - YE69 YFT
35605 - YE69 YGP (confirmed YGP not YFP)

Ian


On Tuesday, December 3, 2019, ian@yorkshirebus <yorkshirebus@...> wrote:
> Hi Colin
>
> Looks like there's been a cock-up somewhere then (understandable, First are registering these themselves...)
>
> Ian
>
> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019, laira via Groups.Io <laira6026=[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Ian
>> ?
>> Sorry to query your usually very reliable information, but are these Registrations correct as there is photographic evidence on Facebook that
>> 35604 is YE69YFT & 35605 is YE69YGP.
>> ?
>> Regards Colin
>> ?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2019 12:51 PM
>> Subject: [ydbn] First Leeds
>> The first of the latest batch of StreetDecks have started to enter service at Bramley depot - these being the ones that were ready to be shipped when WrightBus went pop, and have arrived without PDIs or being registered.? As such, they have been registered by First locally as follows:
>> Fleet No Registration No
>> 35600 YE69 YFV
>> 35601 YE69 YFW
>> 35602 YE69 YFX
>> 35603 YE69 YFY
>> 35604 YE69 YFZ
>> 35605 YE69 YGA
>> They have the grey 'wedge' fronts and are intended (though not necessarily?to be found on!) routes 4 and 16.
>> Ian
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Leeds 'transport crisis'.....

 

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Dale


Re: Leeds 'transport crisis'.....

 

Of course, were they to actually do something about the gridlock, First might be able to run a reliable service...

It's the same in Manchester. Lots of calls and plans to "do something", but nothing that will actually make the services run better, as affecting car drivers might affect their votes...

(Sorry, off the soapbox now)

On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 09:30, Dale Tringham via Groups.Io <daletringham=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: First Leeds

 

That doesn't surprise me one little bit.

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019, 6:53:11 PM GMT, Adam Williams <amodelofcontrol@...> wrote:


Mark

there's a problem there already, as 37216-20 are with Essex. 36221-27 and 36235-53 are the only ones left to move on now.?

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 18:36, Mark oneill via Groups.Io <mark73bigboy=[email protected]> wrote:
First Cymru are expecting to replace the coaches on the X10 in the New Year apparently according to what I heard locally(I live near Cardiff by the way). If there's any logic they will send the examples numbered immediately following those they sent down this way for the Unibus services-but this is First we are talking about obviously!!!
On Monday, December 2, 2019, 2:50:22 PM GMT, Adam Williams <amodelofcontrol@...> wrote:


Ian

this makes more sense!

Regarding the cascades, I understood Bristol were expecting 27 of the "Olympic" B9TLs, but I don't know if that includes the seven that went to Bath a while back or not. Cymru are meant to be getting four 'deckers to refurb for the X10 (presumably also "Olympic" B9TLs), and Norwich was "supposedly" due whatever was left of the type.



On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 14:43, ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io <yorkshirebus=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Adam

I need to sit down and work it all out but I gather there's 2 separate batches being delivered here - 35600 etc for Bramley and then "some", reportedly up to 35595, for Hunslet Park to top up the allocation for the Headingley/Beeston and Dewsbury Road batches...

Ian

On Monday, December 2, 2019, Adam Williams <amodelofcontrol@...> wrote:
> Ian
> interestingly one of the latest arrivals reported elsewhere is 35587 - which is interesting as the others that have arrived so far are numbered between 35600-26 (by no means all appear to have arrived yet). So we're going to have a few gaps, even after this batch of 36 have arrived...
> On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 12:51, ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io <yorkshirebus=[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The first of the latest batch of StreetDecks have started to enter service at Bramley depot - these being the ones that were ready to be shipped when WrightBus went pop, and have arrived without PDIs or being registered.? As such, they have been registered by First locally as follows:
>> Fleet No Registration No
>> 35600 YE69 YFV
>> 35601 YE69 YFW
>> 35602 YE69 YFX
>> 35603 YE69 YFY
>> 35604 YE69 YFZ
>> 35605 YE69 YGA
>> They have the grey 'wedge' fronts and are intended (though not necessarily?to be found on!) routes 4 and 16.
>> Ian
>
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Ensign in November

 

Forwarded for info...

Ian?

---------- Forwarded message ----------

VEHICLES IN.

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From Kenzies Coaches : Volvo B7RLE AE12FGM

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From Go-Ahead London : Volvo B12Bs LK53KVY / KWE

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From Metroline : Volvo B7TLs LK03GMU / GLF / GKN? LK04UWP / CVJ / UWJ / GNJ? / LK54FWM???? E400s LK57AXR / AXY?? LK55KJX / KJY???? E200¡¯s YX10BCV / BCY

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From Arriva London : Volvo B7TL¡¯s LJ55BTE / BTF?? DAF DB250? LJ05BHN

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From RATP London : Optare Tempo¡¯s YJ11EHG / EHH / EHO / EHS / EHW.

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From Symphony Coaches : Volvo B7TL LX05FCC? Darts RN52FZA / FYO.

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From Buses ETC : Darts PX55EDJ / EDO / SN56AXF / KX03HZU / HZE / HV02PCZ??? Volvo B7TL X578EGK?? Trident LN51KXP

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From A2B Buses : E200 LJ56VSX.

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VEHICLES OUT.

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Trident LX04FWY : Leverton Primary School, Waltham Abbey.

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E400 LW10CVK : City Direct, Galway, Eire.

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E400 LK55KKP : Fords Coaches, Althorne, Essex.

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Scania¡¯s YT59OZV / OZW : Atlantic Travel, Bolton.

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Scania¡¯s YT59OZS / OZU : Go-Goodwins, Manchester.

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E200 SN66WLL : Stephensons of Essex.

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Scania¡¯s LX09AFE / LX58CFL : The Bus Business, Witney, Ox.

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Volvo B7TL LX06DZT : York Pullman.

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Volvo B12Bs LK53KVY / KWE :? Mike Lawrenson, Preston.

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Scania YN07EYH : Souls Coaches, Olney, Ox.

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Volvo B7TL¡¯s LJ53BDV / BDU : First Bus Stop, Gravesend.

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E200¡¯s YX10BDO / BFE / BGE / BDF : Transdev.

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DAFs ?LJ54BFY / BFZ / LJ05BJZ : Hardwicks, Barnsley.

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The following have all been sold to Shelton Motors for scrap : Darts HV02PCZ / KX06JYU / KX03HZU / KX56KGU / KX54OPC???? E200 : PN07KRG???? Tridents LX04FWV / V902FEC?????? Scania¡¯s W302 / 303MKY??? Volvo B7TL¡¯s LJ05GSO / GRU / LK03GMU / LK03GLF / LK54FWM / LK04CVJ / LK04UWJ??? Volvo B7L Y722CJW.

?

The following are on hire to First for use in Bristol : YN08MSO / MSU / MSV / MSX / MLV / MLX / YT09YHN / YHW.

?

That¡¯s it

?

Ross



First South Yorkshire statement

 

The following statement has been issued by First SY today.

To add some detail to the below: the 26 vehicles expected at Olive Grove are 36221-7/35-53 from Hunslet Park, of which 36221-4/27/37 have arrived to date.

Their arrival, plus that of E400s 33705/14/17/20/25/55 from First Manchester will allow the remaining B10BLEs and B7Ls to be finally put out of their misery. However, it is also allowing a number of StreetDecks to transfer to First Leicester (they were originally intended to get some of the 26 B9TLs but are now getting the StreetDecks instead) of which 35117/31 are the first to move.

Statement in full is as follows.

Ian

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Statement from Garry Birmingham, Managing Director of First Bus South Yorkshire:

As the managing director of First South Yorkshire, myself and the team absolutely recognise that punctual and reliable services are very important for our customers. Over the last several years we have worked hard with partners to improve reliability & punctuality including the introduction of new ticketing technology to speed up boarding and reduce journey time.

In recent weeks however, our service delivery performance has not been at the standards that we set ourselves or to the level that our customers expect, for which I am sorry.

There are a combination of factors that have caused this including congestion from seasonal traffic levels and the city centre road-works but one of the key issues affecting service delivery at the moment is vehicle availability. We have been experiencing major issues following the very wet weather which caused excessive amounts of electrical and water ingress faults. This was compounded by parts availability issues due to business changes at one of our main suppliers Wrightbus, which is now starting to ease following their takeover completion.

Although the issue of vehicle availability is improving, we are taking a number of specific additional actions to ensure we can achieve and sustain stable service delivery. This includes sourcing vehicle parts from alternative suppliers, bringing in additional technical expertise, using additional workshops to complete repairs and bringing extra vehicles into the fleet. In all we will receive 26 newer vehicles over the next few weeks, the first of which have now started to arrive. In addition our recruitment drive is continuing for engineering staff and other engineering options are being explored to ensure we are suitably equipped going forward.

I would like to apologise to all our customers for the impact this is having on their travel and assure them we are doing everything we can to recover our current vehicle availability issues and deliver the high standards of service we can be proud of.


Stagecoach Yorkshire X10

 

Gold Scania/E400s 15609/10 (OU10 BHA/D) are in the final stages of being prepared for service and should be out on the X10 (Barnsley - Leeds) from this week.

Ian


Yorkshire Tiger

 

A bit of an overdue update on all things Tiger:

ex Arriva VDL/East Lancs 1602 (YJ06 WMA) has been painted in to Tiger livery. 1601 is to be similarly treated shortly, and 1603 (YJ06 WMC) is due to join the fleet from Arriva Yorkshire shortly.

The arrival of 1601/2 has officially demoted Volvo B7TL 835 (LF52 TGV) and Scania 762 (YT60 YYO) tothe ?'pool' fleet though in reality 835 remains in use at Waterloo and 762 is in use at Idle depot, as is Optare Versa demonstrator OP07 ARE.

And to bring things bang up to date, Solo 322 (YJ10 EYO) suffered an engine fire in the King Cross area of Halifax this morning!

Ian


Re: Yorkshire Tiger

 

Ian/all

Here is the solo:


Ewan?


On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 17:16, ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io
<yorkshirebus@...> wrote:
A bit of an overdue update on all things Tiger:

ex Arriva VDL/East Lancs 1602 (YJ06 WMA) has been painted in to Tiger livery. 1601 is to be similarly treated shortly, and 1603 (YJ06 WMC) is due to join the fleet from Arriva Yorkshire shortly.

The arrival of 1601/2 has officially demoted Volvo B7TL 835 (LF52 TGV) and Scania 762 (YT60 YYO) tothe ?'pool' fleet though in reality 835 remains in use at Waterloo and 762 is in use at Idle depot, as is Optare Versa demonstrator OP07 ARE.

And to bring things bang up to date, Solo 322 (YJ10 EYO) suffered an engine fire in the King Cross area of Halifax this morning!

Ian


More First Leeds Streetdecks

 

More Streetdeck registrations - apologies if reported already
35614 - YE69YGV
35625 - YE69YGR
35626 - YE69YHN
35627 - YE69YHM
35628 - YE69YHL
All at Bramley

35589 - YE69YGY
At Hunslet Park


Re: More First Leeds Streetdecks

 

Hi Ivan

A few more from me on my recent travels to Leeds too - again, apologies if these have already been reported:

35607 - YE69 YGN
35608 - YE69 YGM
35609 - YE69 YGL
35610 - YE69 YGK
35611 - YE69 YGJ
35612 - YE69 YGH
35613 - YE69 YGG

All at Bramley, and

35598 YE69 HFZ at Hunslet.

Ian??


On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 5:02 PM Ivan Noble <nobleivan37@...> wrote:
More Streetdeck registrations - apologies if reported already
35614 - YE69YGV
35625 - YE69YGR
35626 - YE69YHN
35627 - YE69YHM
35628 - YE69YHL
All at Bramley

35589 - YE69YGY
At Hunslet Park


Re: More First Leeds Streetdecks

 

Folks

it's been suggested that the new batch at Hunslet (I believe 35583-99) are for the 51/52. Any thoughts?

On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 17:19, ian@yorkshirebus via Groups.Io <yorkshirebus=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Ivan

A few more from me on my recent travels to Leeds too - again, apologies if these have already been reported:

35607 - YE69 YGN
35608 - YE69 YGM
35609 - YE69 YGL
35610 - YE69 YGK
35611 - YE69 YGJ
35612 - YE69 YGH
35613 - YE69 YGG

All at Bramley, and

35598 YE69 HFZ at Hunslet.

Ian??

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 5:02 PM Ivan Noble <nobleivan37@...> wrote:
More Streetdeck registrations - apologies if reported already
35614 - YE69YGV
35625 - YE69YGR
35626 - YE69YHN
35627 - YE69YHM
35628 - YE69YHL
All at Bramley

35589 - YE69YGY
At Hunslet Park



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First SY

 

Around half of the 26 Volvo B9TL/Wrights expected from First WY (Hunslet Park) have now arrived at Olive Grove and been pressed straight in to service, still with Pulse brandings.? As far as I know the following are still to move over to OG - 36225/6, 36235, 36240/3/4/5/7/9, 36250/1/2/3.

The first casualties of their arrival should be the remaining B7Ls and B7TL/Presidents at Olive Grove, though a number of newer vehicles are also leaving Olive Grove - StreetDecks 35102/17/18/29/30/31 and StreetLites 63012/34 and 63382/6 are all moving to First Midlands (Leicester and PMT in old money).? Why such an eclectic?assortment rather?than a straight batch of vehicles you ask - simple, they all have major faults that First SY apparently?don't have the resources (personnel or financial) to repair, so they get transferred out for other depots to fix and use.

In a similar vein, a number of B9TL/Wrights and B7RLE/Wrights are due to move from within First SY - from Olive Grove to Doncaster - for them to repair then use.? The first ones to move are 37106/8 and 69025.? In return, Doncaster are due to send (fully functional) B7RLEs 69641-5 and 69512-4, plus StreetLites 63377/78/84 to Olive Grove in the next few weeks.

Ian


Stagecoach Yorkshire - Allocation Changes - Period 8

 

Recorded allocation changes for the 4 weeks ending 7th December 2019 are as follows:

12094?? YN61 BFV?????????? HK???????? to?????????? reserve

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15411?? YN54 VKA?????????? disp?????? to?????????? Stagecoach Midlands

15416?? YN54 VKF??????????? disp?????? to?????????? Sold to ConnexionsBuses

15534?? VX59 JCY???????????? SC Ox??? to?????????? reserve

15535?? VX59 JCZ???????????? SC Ox??? to?????????? reserve

15537?? VX59 JDJ???????????? SC Ox??? to?????????? reserve

15611?? OU10 BHE????????? SC Ox??? to?????????? reserve

15826?? YN12 GYR?????????? CD???????? to?????????? reserve

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19104?? MX07 HMD??????? res.??????? to?????????? BY

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22539?? YN57 MXF????????? RH???????? to?????????? reserve

22643?? YN58 CEK??????????? res.??????? to?????????? CD

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26030?? YX65 RBZ??????????? res.??????? to?????????? RH

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34582?? YN04 YXR??????????? res.??????? to?????????? CD

34720?? YN05 XNZ?????????? res.??????? to?????????? CD

35112?? YN06 WCO???????? res.??????? to?????????? BY

35113?? YN06 WCP????????? CD???????? to?????????? disposal

36072?? SN56 AYG?????????? BY????????? to?????????? disposal

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47319?? YN06 UGR????????? CD???????? to?????????? reserve

47466?? YN07 OSD?????????? ED???????? to?????????? disposal?????????????

47654?? KX58 AYH?????????? SC Mids to?????????? ED

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Ian


Re: Stagecoach Yorkshire X10

 

15610 (OU10 BHD) has entered service today on the X10 (odd hours from Barnsley). An E400MMC is on the other working.

Ian


On Sunday, December 8, 2019, ian@yorkshirebus <yorkshirebus@...> wrote:
> Gold Scania/E400s 15609/10 (OU10 BHA/D) are in the final stages of being prepared for service and should be out on the X10 (Barnsley - Leeds) from this week.
>
> Ian


Re: More First Leeds Streetdecks

 

All

Some more Streetdecks that have been around Leeds over the last few days which I don't think have been reported elsewhere:

35596??YE69YGC
35597??YE69YGA
35615??YE69YGU
35628??YE69YHL

Ray


First Leicester arrivals

 

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Streetdeck 35124 is the 4th transfer to Leicester from FSY at Sheffield. It joins 35117/30/31 and is not one of those previously understood to be being transferred. Two more Streetdecks are due and may, again, now not be those previously pencilled in......

Streelite 63379 is reported to be another transfer from Sheffield to Leicester. Again, this is not the vehicle previously indicated.

Dale

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First Leicester Streetdecks ex-FSY

 

The 5th Streetdeck to transfer was 35119 and is understood to now be in Leicester. The final one expected, now to be 35137, is apparently on the way down. With the addition of the one Streetlite (63379) that should make up the 7 that were originally to be the Geminis from Leeds.........

Dale


Leicester to South Yorkshire

 

Volvo B7RLEs 66962/9 (KX05 MHY/MJU) are the latest of this type to transfer from First Leicester to First South Yorkshire (Doncaster depot).

Ian