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In Not Digging Potatoes, there is a CVP cap for the Americans.? Do prisoners count double immediately should they be captured only at game end?
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Prisoners count double at game end unless an SSR to the contrary is present. Carl
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 2:06 PM Chuck Tewksbury via <chuck.tewksbury= [email protected]> wrote: In Not Digging Potatoes, there is a CVP cap for the Americans.? Do prisoners count double immediately should they be captured only at game end?
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Interesting. The VC are: ¡° Provided the Germans have not amassed >= 8 CVP (which would result in an immediate German Victory), the Americans win at Game End if there is no Good Order German MMC in any hex with a coordinate numbered ¡Ý 5.¡±
So, let¡¯s say that by the last turn, the Germans have 6 CVP, 4 of which are prisoners (so they would get 4 more CVP for them at game end). ?At Game End, the Americans have satisfied their own VC. Who wins? i.e. does the German VC include the game end ¡°bump¡± for the prisoners? The way the German VC is worded, it¡¯s not entirely clear.
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On Feb 20, 2025, at 2:11?PM, Carl N. via groups.io <carlhnogueira@...> wrote:
? Prisoners count double at game end unless an SSR to the contrary is present. Carl On Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 2:06 PM Chuck Tewksbury via <chuck.tewksbury= [email protected]> wrote: In Not Digging Potatoes, there is a CVP cap for the Americans.? Do prisoners count double immediately should they be captured only at game end?
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The Germans. The Americans fall short on the "provided that" provision. Carl
Interesting. The VC are: ¡° Provided the Germans have not amassed >= 8 CVP (which would result in an immediate German Victory), the Americans win at Game End if there is no Good Order German MMC in any hex with a coordinate numbered ¡Ý 5.¡±
So, let¡¯s say that by the last turn, the Germans have 6 CVP, 4 of which are prisoners (so they would get 4 more CVP for them at game end).? At Game End, the Americans have satisfied their own VC. Who wins? i.e. does the German VC include the game end ¡°bump¡± for the prisoners? The way the German VC is worded, it¡¯s not entirely clear.
- Len ? Prisoners count double at game end unless an SSR to the contrary is present. Carl On Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 2:06 PM Chuck Tewksbury via <chuck.tewksbury= [email protected]> wrote: In Not Digging Potatoes, there is a CVP cap for the Americans.? Do prisoners count double immediately should they be captured only at game end?
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The moral of the story is, as the attacker, you control putting yourself in situations where a rout might cause a surrender. It's something to be looked out for anyway, but even more-so here. Thanks, Carl
The Germans. The Americans fall short on the "provided that" provision. Carl
Interesting. The VC are: ¡° Provided the Germans have not amassed >= 8 CVP (which would result in an immediate German Victory), the Americans win at Game End if there is no Good Order German MMC in any hex with a coordinate numbered ¡Ý 5.¡±
So, let¡¯s say that by the last turn, the Germans have 6 CVP, 4 of which are prisoners (so they would get 4 more CVP for them at game end).? At Game End, the Americans have satisfied their own VC. Who wins? i.e. does the German VC include the game end ¡°bump¡± for the prisoners? The way the German VC is worded, it¡¯s not entirely clear.
- Len ? Prisoners count double at game end unless an SSR to the contrary is present. Carl On Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 2:06 PM Chuck Tewksbury via <chuck.tewksbury= [email protected]> wrote: In Not Digging Potatoes, there is a CVP cap for the Americans.? Do prisoners count double immediately should they be captured only at game end?
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Finally, not too many Germans in this one, so they may not have the luxury.
The moral of the story is, as the attacker, you control putting yourself in situations where a rout might cause a surrender. It's something to be looked out for anyway, but even more-so here. Thanks, Carl
The Germans. The Americans fall short on the "provided that" provision. Carl
Interesting. The VC are: ¡° Provided the Germans have not amassed >= 8 CVP (which would result in an immediate German Victory), the Americans win at Game End if there is no Good Order German MMC in any hex with a coordinate numbered ¡Ý 5.¡±
So, let¡¯s say that by the last turn, the Germans have 6 CVP, 4 of which are prisoners (so they would get 4 more CVP for them at game end).? At Game End, the Americans have satisfied their own VC. Who wins? i.e. does the German VC include the game end ¡°bump¡± for the prisoners? The way the German VC is worded, it¡¯s not entirely clear.
- Len ? Prisoners count double at game end unless an SSR to the contrary is present. Carl On Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 2:06 PM Chuck Tewksbury via <chuck.tewksbury= [email protected]> wrote: In Not Digging Potatoes, there is a CVP cap for the Americans.? Do prisoners count double immediately should they be captured only at game end?
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Thanks Carl, you beat me to the answer. Have fun with it Len, Vic.? 
The Germans. The Americans fall short on the "provided that" provision. Carl
Interesting. The VC are: ¡° Provided the Germans have not amassed >= 8 CVP (which would result in an immediate German Victory), the Americans win at Game End if there is no Good Order German MMC in any hex with a coordinate numbered ¡Ý 5.¡±
So, let¡¯s say that by the last turn, the Germans have 6 CVP, 4 of which are prisoners (so they would get 4 more CVP for them at game end).? At Game End, the Americans have satisfied their own VC. Who wins? i.e. does the German VC include the game end ¡°bump¡± for the prisoners? The way the German VC is worded, it¡¯s not entirely clear.
- Len ? Prisoners count double at game end unless an SSR to the contrary is present. Carl On Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 2:06 PM Chuck Tewksbury via <chuck.tewksbury= [email protected]> wrote: In Not Digging Potatoes, there is a CVP cap for the Americans.? Do prisoners count double immediately should they be captured only at game end?
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Spot on, you don't have prisoners as a priority, but they can spell the difference between a win or a loss sometimes, Vic.
The moral of the story is, as the attacker, you control putting yourself in situations where a rout might cause a surrender. It's something to be looked out for anyway, but even more-so here. Thanks, Carl
The Germans. The Americans fall short on the "provided that" provision. Carl
Interesting. The VC are: ¡° Provided the Germans have not amassed >= 8 CVP (which would result in an immediate German Victory), the Americans win at Game End if there is no Good Order German MMC in any hex with a coordinate numbered ¡Ý 5.¡±
So, let¡¯s say that by the last turn, the Germans have 6 CVP, 4 of which are prisoners (so they would get 4 more CVP for them at game end).? At Game End, the Americans have satisfied their own VC. Who wins? i.e. does the German VC include the game end ¡°bump¡± for the prisoners? The way the German VC is worded, it¡¯s not entirely clear.
- Len ? Prisoners count double at game end unless an SSR to the contrary is present. Carl On Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 2:06 PM Chuck Tewksbury via <chuck.tewksbury= [email protected]> wrote: In Not Digging Potatoes, there is a CVP cap for the Americans.? Do prisoners count double immediately should they be captured only at game end?
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Len Kay