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Ezra’s school has put out a detailed plan for bringing students back to campus in September (for which I am exceedingly grateful for a number of reasons).? Baird’s school hasn’t given us details yet (they don’t have the same options to put students in hotels due to location, but I sure hope they prioritize seniors at school because I don’t think he’s going to be able to write his comps effectively otherwise), but they have said that they’re working on a plan to get most students back on campus.? New Jersey is intending that students go back to school in the fall too. ? All of which mean that I’m going to need to make more masks.? I’m not as concerned about Arielle because I have more ability to launder of otherwise take care of things quickly for her (bigger concern is that we still haven’t found one that really fits well enough to wear for an extended period of time, but I have some ideas), but I want to make sure I send the boys with enough masks (though Mac has explicitly said that they’ll make them available).? ? How many masks do you think I should plan to send with each kid?? Taking opinions about that, and reasons for opinions are good too. ? Slightly related, I saw a write-up of a paper that was recently published about the most effective mask materials.? I haven’t read the paper and don’t know if they looked at anything like a Filti layer, but the researchers concluded that 2 layers of quilting cotton did the best job of protecting other people (nothing included in the article I read about whether they looked at how well the mask protected the “wearer” dummy). ? Melisande
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Aside from surgical N95 masks, no mask really protects the wearer. That’s not what this type of mask wearing is about. The wearing of masks in public - or even in the surgical suite - is about protecting others from the wearer. Better fitting ones do a better job, but they are still all about protecting others, ?to the wearer.
How often do you actually think they will change them or do laundry? ?I would go for probably a two week supply, maybe?
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On Jul 1, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Melisande R. Wolf via groups.io <melisanderwolf@...> wrote:
? Ezra’s school has put out a detailed plan for bringing students back to campus in September (for which I am exceedingly grateful for a number of reasons).? Baird’s school hasn’t given us details yet (they don’t have the same options to put students in hotels due to location, but I sure hope they prioritize seniors at school because I don’t think he’s going to be able to write his comps effectively otherwise), but they have said that they’re working on a plan to get most students back on campus.? New Jersey is intending that students go back to school in the fall too. ? All of which mean that I’m going to need to make more masks.? I’m not as concerned about Arielle because I have more ability to launder of otherwise take care of things quickly for her (bigger concern is that we still haven’t found one that really fits well enough to wear for an extended period of time, but I have some ideas), but I want to make sure I send the boys with enough masks (though Mac has explicitly said that they’ll make them available).? ? How many masks do you think I should plan to send with each kid?? Taking opinions about that, and reasons for opinions are good too. ? Slightly related, I saw a write-up of a paper that was recently published about the most effective mask materials.? I haven’t read the paper and don’t know if they looked at anything like a Filti layer, but the researchers concluded that 2 layers of quilting cotton did the best job of protecting other people (nothing included in the article I read about whether they looked at how well the mask protected the “wearer” dummy). ? Melisande
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Thanks Laura – I didn’t try to go digging for the paper to see if they had talked about protecting the wearer but didn’t want to imply that what I’d read said anything about that either way. ? At the moment the boys are heavily conditioned to change masks with every use (someone goes to run an errand, mask goes to the “dirty bin” to be laundered) or every time they go to/come home from work.? I don’t know how much backsliding there will be once they’re back at school. ? I should probably ask them about number and laundry thoughts.? As far as I know, Minnesota doesn’t currently have a mask mandate, though that could change, and the communication from Macalester was explicit about when masks will be required, which is pretty much all the time.? Interestingly, they are also mandating a flu shot this year, but are not currently planning wholesale COVID-19 testing of students like some schools (MIT’s plan apparently calls for testing the entire student population every 2 weeks). ? I do know, anecdotally from Michelle the MIT Hillel executive director, that college students don’t comply with social distancing regulations very well (not that this is shocking to anyone I’m sure).? A number of “her” kids were among those who stayed at MIT during the spring and she has told me lots of stories about parties, alcohol, congregating in larger groups than the 4 person limit mandated by MIT.? There’s only so much that can be done to combat the sense of young adult invincibility. ? Melisande ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Laura Need Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:35 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yarnmongers] Masks (again) ? Aside from surgical N95 masks, no mask really protects the wearer. That’s not what this type of mask wearing is about. The wearing of masks in public - or even in the surgical suite - is about protecting others from the wearer. Better fitting ones do a better job, but they are still all about protecting others, ?to the wearer. How often do you actually think they will change them or do laundry? ?I would go for probably a two week supply, maybe? Laura ? Ezra’s school has put out a detailed plan for bringing students back to campus in September (for which I am exceedingly grateful for a number of reasons).? Baird’s school hasn’t given us details yet (they don’t have the same options to put students in hotels due to location, but I sure hope they prioritize seniors at school because I don’t think he’s going to be able to write his comps effectively otherwise), but they have said that they’re working on a plan to get most students back on campus.? New Jersey is intending that students go back to school in the fall too. ? All of which mean that I’m going to need to make more masks.? I’m not as concerned about Arielle because I have more ability to launder of otherwise take care of things quickly for her (bigger concern is that we still haven’t found one that really fits well enough to wear for an extended period of time, but I have some ideas), but I want to make sure I send the boys with enough masks (though Mac has explicitly said that they’ll make them available).? ? How many masks do you think I should plan to send with each kid?? Taking opinions about that, and reasons for opinions are good too. ? Slightly related, I saw a write-up of a paper that was recently published about the most effective mask materials.? I haven’t read the paper and don’t know if they looked at anything like a Filti layer, but the researchers concluded that 2 layers of quilting cotton did the best job of protecting other people (nothing included in the article I read about whether they looked at how well the mask protected the “wearer” dummy). ? Melisande
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I would say one mask per day times one or two laundry cycles ... knowing "kids"?
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erica ... home since March 17th ... with a big yard :-)
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 1:56 PM Melisande R. Wolf via <melisanderwolf= [email protected]> wrote: Ezra’s school has put out a detailed plan for bringing students back to campus in September (for which I am exceedingly grateful for a number of reasons).? Baird’s school hasn’t given us details yet (they don’t have the same options to put students in hotels due to location, but I sure hope they prioritize seniors at school because I don’t think he’s going to be able to write his comps effectively otherwise), but they have said that they’re working on a plan to get most students back on campus.? New Jersey is intending that students go back to school in the fall too. ? All of which mean that I’m going to need to make more masks.? I’m not as concerned about Arielle because I have more ability to launder of otherwise take care of things quickly for her (bigger concern is that we still haven’t found one that really fits well enough to wear for an extended period of time, but I have some ideas), but I want to make sure I send the boys with enough masks (though Mac has explicitly said that they’ll make them available).? ? How many masks do you think I should plan to send with each kid?? Taking opinions about that, and reasons for opinions are good too. ? Slightly related, I saw a write-up of a paper that was recently published about the most effective mask materials.? I haven’t read the paper and don’t know if they looked at anything like a Filti layer, but the researchers concluded that 2 layers of quilting cotton did the best job of protecting other people (nothing included in the article I read about whether they looked at how well the mask protected the “wearer” dummy). ? Melisande
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From the Front Lines of watching Main Street in Small Town America/Arizona Hot Spot ...
there are four types of peeps ...
#1 Has not left home ... no mask needed.
#2 Has health concerns, ventures out very safely and wears a nice two or three layer mask while out.
#3 Wears a bandana scarf or cheap mask as a polite gesture ... not personally "worried".
#4 Trust me on this ... "they" are gonna take away your rights one by one, starting with thisONE.
? ? ? NO Masks ... and don't mess with my guns either :-)?
I know people in all four camps - I am in #1, my ex - who is my out door?delivery is #3 ... and a quarter of my good friends are #4
In the big picture - what are your kids feeling? No sense sending a dozen masks with someone who is going to use the same one for days because it is easier.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:45 PM erica knitzz < knitzz@...> wrote: I would say one mask per day times one or two laundry cycles ... knowing "kids"?
7-14?
erica ... home since March 17th ... with a big yard :-)
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 1:56 PM Melisande R. Wolf via <melisanderwolf= [email protected]> wrote: Ezra’s school has put out a detailed plan for bringing students back to campus in September (for which I am exceedingly grateful for a number of reasons).? Baird’s school hasn’t given us details yet (they don’t have the same options to put students in hotels due to location, but I sure hope they prioritize seniors at school because I don’t think he’s going to be able to write his comps effectively otherwise), but they have said that they’re working on a plan to get most students back on campus.? New Jersey is intending that students go back to school in the fall too. ? All of which mean that I’m going to need to make more masks.? I’m not as concerned about Arielle because I have more ability to launder of otherwise take care of things quickly for her (bigger concern is that we still haven’t found one that really fits well enough to wear for an extended period of time, but I have some ideas), but I want to make sure I send the boys with enough masks (though Mac has explicitly said that they’ll make them available).? ? How many masks do you think I should plan to send with each kid?? Taking opinions about that, and reasons for opinions are good too. ? Slightly related, I saw a write-up of a paper that was recently published about the most effective mask materials.? I haven’t read the paper and don’t know if they looked at anything like a Filti layer, but the researchers concluded that 2 layers of quilting cotton did the best job of protecting other people (nothing included in the article I read about whether they looked at how well the mask protected the “wearer” dummy). ? Melisande
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We live in #2 world here, with the modification that when walking the dogs (in the park very distanced) I carry but don’t wear one.? ? My instinct based on the boys being used to wearing them at work and aggravated that Arielle has expanded the family bubble a bit to include a couple of friends approved by me, I think they’ll be cognizant of the need to change them.? Baird sometimes gets annoyed that I insist that shoes come off when people come in the door and that he is to shower after work before seeing the dogs (who do not believe in the concept of social distancing), while Ezra automatically does both and *then* comes to see dogs immediately. ? I have some time – Mac is staggering move-in (TBD) but school starts September 2nd, and Carleton usually starts after that anyway.? K-12 schools here start after Labor Day too.? But if I don’t start thinking about it and planning now, it’ll be the day before they leave and I’ll be losing my mind. ? Melisande ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of erica Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:53 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yarnmongers] Masks (again) ? From the Front Lines of watching Main Street in Small Town America/Arizona Hot Spot ...
there are four types of peeps ...
#1 Has not left home ... no mask needed.
#2 Has health concerns, ventures out very safely and wears a nice two or three layer mask while out.
#3 Wears a bandana scarf or cheap mask as a polite gesture ... not personally "worried".
#4 Trust me on this ... "they" are gonna take away your rights one by one, starting with thisONE.
? ? ? NO Masks ... and don't mess with my guns either :-)?
I know people in all four camps - I am in #1, my ex - who is my out door?delivery is #3 ... and a quarter of my good friends are #4
In the big picture - what are your kids feeling? No sense sending a dozen masks with someone who is going to use the same one for days because it is easier.
? On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:45 PM erica knitzz <knitzz@...> wrote: I would say one mask per day times one or two laundry cycles ... knowing "kids"?
7-14? erica ... home since March 17th ... with a big yard :-) ? On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 1:56 PM Melisande R. Wolf via <melisanderwolf=[email protected]> wrote: Ezra’s school has put out a detailed plan for bringing students back to campus in September (for which I am exceedingly grateful for a number of reasons).? Baird’s school hasn’t given us details yet (they don’t have the same options to put students in hotels due to location, but I sure hope they prioritize seniors at school because I don’t think he’s going to be able to write his comps effectively otherwise), but they have said that they’re working on a plan to get most students back on campus.? New Jersey is intending that students go back to school in the fall too. ? All of which mean that I’m going to need to make more masks.? I’m not as concerned about Arielle because I have more ability to launder of otherwise take care of things quickly for her (bigger concern is that we still haven’t found one that really fits well enough to wear for an extended period of time, but I have some ideas), but I want to make sure I send the boys with enough masks (though Mac has explicitly said that they’ll make them available).? ? How many masks do you think I should plan to send with each kid?? Taking opinions about that, and reasons for opinions are good too. ? Slightly related, I saw a write-up of a paper that was recently published about the most effective mask materials.? I haven’t read the paper and don’t know if they looked at anything like a Filti layer, but the researchers concluded that 2 layers of quilting cotton did the best job of protecting other people (nothing included in the article I read about whether they looked at how well the mask protected the “wearer” dummy). ? Melisande
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This mask pattern apparently comes in many more sizes and is easily adjusted a bit up or down Secondly, the key point of the mask is to protect others from the wearer of the mask. However, a recent study (and I can’t find it right now but it was quoted on my RSS feed today) did some studies on different materials. They used grains of table salt as a stand-in for droplets containing the virus (not the virus itself). They threw varying amounts of salt at masks made of different materials and of different construction. That found that a 2 layer tightly woven cotton mask did the best job of the ones they tested. That is rather limited but says that multiple layers and tighter weave are better than the alternative.?
There is some research that suggests that these larger droplets are not the only issue but that fine aerosolized droplets - which are way finer than table salt - also carry the virus and also are carried further away from the person. These happen with both breathing and talking. The heavier droplets tend to fall to the ground within a few feet of the mouth but these carry further.
While I believe Filti probably provides better protection than a woven cotton because it has way smaller holes if not stuck with pins and sewn through the part of the material over your mouth. I haven’t seen any testing of it. So I take that with a grain of salt while I continue to use it.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 4:56 PM Melisande R. Wolf via <melisanderwolf= [email protected]> wrote: Ezra’s school has put out a detailed plan for bringing students back to campus in September (for which I am exceedingly grateful for a number of reasons).? Baird’s school hasn’t given us details yet (they don’t have the same options to put students in hotels due to location, but I sure hope they prioritize seniors at school because I don’t think he’s going to be able to write his comps effectively otherwise), but they have said that they’re working on a plan to get most students back on campus.? New Jersey is intending that students go back to school in the fall too. ? All of which mean that I’m going to need to make more masks.? I’m not as concerned about Arielle because I have more ability to launder of otherwise take care of things quickly for her (bigger concern is that we still haven’t found one that really fits well enough to wear for an extended period of time, but I have some ideas), but I want to make sure I send the boys with enough masks (though Mac has explicitly said that they’ll make them available).? ? How many masks do you think I should plan to send with each kid?? Taking opinions about that, and reasons for opinions are good too. ? Slightly related, I saw a write-up of a paper that was recently published about the most effective mask materials.? I haven’t read the paper and don’t know if they looked at anything like a Filti layer, but the researchers concluded that 2 layers of quilting cotton did the best job of protecting other people (nothing included in the article I read about whether they looked at how well the mask protected the “wearer” dummy). ? Melisande
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I'm still an Olson mask fan and I use batik and Filti.
I watched an interesting YouTube video last week, but can't find it now.? She basically made the Olson mask and cut binding out of an old t-shirt.? So as she sewed on the binding, she pulled it slightly.? The results were great: it hugged upper and lower face without the need of the nose wire.? I really liked that very much, but I'm so used to using the wire, I haven't explored this binding idea.
I'm still alert to any new ideas for masks.
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Jaya, what I read early on about the effectiveness of Filti is that it’s right up there with N95 mask materials. ?
I’ll see if I can find that again.?
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On Jul 1, 2020, at 6:23 PM, Jaya Srikrishnan <ermabom@...> wrote:
? This mask pattern apparently comes in many more sizes and is easily adjusted a bit up or down Secondly, the key point of the mask is to protect others from the wearer of the mask. However, a recent study (and I can’t find it right now but it was quoted on my RSS feed today) did some studies on different materials. They used grains of table salt as a stand-in for droplets containing the virus (not the virus itself). They threw varying amounts of salt at masks made of different materials and of different construction. That found that a 2 layer tightly woven cotton mask did the best job of the ones they tested. That is rather limited but says that multiple layers and tighter weave are better than the alternative.?
There is some research that suggests that these larger droplets are not the only issue but that fine aerosolized droplets - which are way finer than table salt - also carry the virus and also are carried further away from the person. These happen with both breathing and talking. The heavier droplets tend to fall to the ground within a few feet of the mouth but these carry further.
While I believe Filti probably provides better protection than a woven cotton because it has way smaller holes if not stuck with pins and sewn through the part of the material over your mouth. I haven’t seen any testing of it. So I take that with a grain of salt while I continue to use it. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 4:56 PM Melisande R. Wolf via <melisanderwolf= [email protected]> wrote: Ezra’s school has put out a detailed plan for bringing students back to campus in September (for which I am exceedingly grateful for a number of reasons).? Baird’s school hasn’t given us details yet (they don’t have the same options to put students in hotels due to location, but I sure hope they prioritize seniors at school because I don’t think he’s going to be able to write his comps effectively otherwise), but they have said that they’re working on a plan to get most students back on campus.? New Jersey is intending that students go back to school in the fall too. ? All of which mean that I’m going to need to make more masks.? I’m not as concerned about Arielle because I have more ability to launder of otherwise take care of things quickly for her (bigger concern is that we still haven’t found one that really fits well enough to wear for an extended period of time, but I have some ideas), but I want to make sure I send the boys with enough masks (though Mac has explicitly said that they’ll make them available).? ? How many masks do you think I should plan to send with each kid?? Taking opinions about that, and reasons for opinions are good too. ? Slightly related, I saw a write-up of a paper that was recently published about the most effective mask materials.? I haven’t read the paper and don’t know if they looked at anything like a Filti layer, but the researchers concluded that 2 layers of quilting cotton did the best job of protecting other people (nothing included in the article I read about whether they looked at how well the mask protected the “wearer” dummy). ? Melisande
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It’s on the Filti.com website. ??
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On Jul 2, 2020, at 10:11 AM, "Connie@..." <Connie@...> wrote:
? Jaya, what I read early on about the effectiveness of Filti is that it’s right up there with N95 mask materials. ?
I’ll see if I can find that again.? On Jul 1, 2020, at 6:23 PM, Jaya Srikrishnan <ermabom@...> wrote:
? This mask pattern apparently comes in many more sizes and is easily adjusted a bit up or down Secondly, the key point of the mask is to protect others from the wearer of the mask. However, a recent study (and I can’t find it right now but it was quoted on my RSS feed today) did some studies on different materials. They used grains of table salt as a stand-in for droplets containing the virus (not the virus itself). They threw varying amounts of salt at masks made of different materials and of different construction. That found that a 2 layer tightly woven cotton mask did the best job of the ones they tested. That is rather limited but says that multiple layers and tighter weave are better than the alternative.?
There is some research that suggests that these larger droplets are not the only issue but that fine aerosolized droplets - which are way finer than table salt - also carry the virus and also are carried further away from the person. These happen with both breathing and talking. The heavier droplets tend to fall to the ground within a few feet of the mouth but these carry further.
While I believe Filti probably provides better protection than a woven cotton because it has way smaller holes if not stuck with pins and sewn through the part of the material over your mouth. I haven’t seen any testing of it. So I take that with a grain of salt while I continue to use it. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 4:56 PM Melisande R. Wolf via <melisanderwolf= [email protected]> wrote: Ezra’s school has put out a detailed plan for bringing students back to campus in September (for which I am exceedingly grateful for a number of reasons).? Baird’s school hasn’t given us details yet (they don’t have the same options to put students in hotels due to location, but I sure hope they prioritize seniors at school because I don’t think he’s going to be able to write his comps effectively otherwise), but they have said that they’re working on a plan to get most students back on campus.? New Jersey is intending that students go back to school in the fall too. ? All of which mean that I’m going to need to make more masks.? I’m not as concerned about Arielle because I have more ability to launder of otherwise take care of things quickly for her (bigger concern is that we still haven’t found one that really fits well enough to wear for an extended period of time, but I have some ideas), but I want to make sure I send the boys with enough masks (though Mac has explicitly said that they’ll make them available).? ? How many masks do you think I should plan to send with each kid?? Taking opinions about that, and reasons for opinions are good too. ? Slightly related, I saw a write-up of a paper that was recently published about the most effective mask materials.? I haven’t read the paper and don’t know if they looked at anything like a Filti layer, but the researchers concluded that 2 layers of quilting cotton did the best job of protecting other people (nothing included in the article I read about whether they looked at how well the mask protected the “wearer” dummy). ? Melisande
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Connie, I'd like to see that. Whatever I found was directly from the company without any scientific study. Press releases, for example, or news reports from their local area.
Jaya, what I read early on about the effectiveness of Filti is that it’s right up there with N95 mask materials. ?
I’ll see if I can find that again.? On Jul 1, 2020, at 6:23 PM, Jaya Srikrishnan <ermabom@...> wrote:
? This mask pattern apparently comes in many more sizes and is easily adjusted a bit up or down Secondly, the key point of the mask is to protect others from the wearer of the mask. However, a recent study (and I can’t find it right now but it was quoted on my RSS feed today) did some studies on different materials. They used grains of table salt as a stand-in for droplets containing the virus (not the virus itself). They threw varying amounts of salt at masks made of different materials and of different construction. That found that a 2 layer tightly woven cotton mask did the best job of the ones they tested. That is rather limited but says that multiple layers and tighter weave are better than the alternative.?
There is some research that suggests that these larger droplets are not the only issue but that fine aerosolized droplets - which are way finer than table salt - also carry the virus and also are carried further away from the person. These happen with both breathing and talking. The heavier droplets tend to fall to the ground within a few feet of the mouth but these carry further.
While I believe Filti probably provides better protection than a woven cotton because it has way smaller holes if not stuck with pins and sewn through the part of the material over your mouth. I haven’t seen any testing of it. So I take that with a grain of salt while I continue to use it. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 4:56 PM Melisande R. Wolf via <melisanderwolf= [email protected]> wrote: Ezra’s school has put out a detailed plan for bringing students back to campus in September (for which I am exceedingly grateful for a number of reasons).? Baird’s school hasn’t given us details yet (they don’t have the same options to put students in hotels due to location, but I sure hope they prioritize seniors at school because I don’t think he’s going to be able to write his comps effectively otherwise), but they have said that they’re working on a plan to get most students back on campus.? New Jersey is intending that students go back to school in the fall too. ? All of which mean that I’m going to need to make more masks.? I’m not as concerned about Arielle because I have more ability to launder of otherwise take care of things quickly for her (bigger concern is that we still haven’t found one that really fits well enough to wear for an extended period of time, but I have some ideas), but I want to make sure I send the boys with enough masks (though Mac has explicitly said that they’ll make them available).? ? How many masks do you think I should plan to send with each kid?? Taking opinions about that, and reasons for opinions are good too. ? Slightly related, I saw a write-up of a paper that was recently published about the most effective mask materials.? I haven’t read the paper and don’t know if they looked at anything like a Filti layer, but the researchers concluded that 2 layers of quilting cotton did the best job of protecting other people (nothing included in the article I read about whether they looked at how well the mask protected the “wearer” dummy). ? Melisande
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Connie,? I saw that and the material data sheet. It doesn't cite the actual study of how that was determined. How was the test conducted, how many samples of what virus, etc. Without that, the actual percentage is meaningless. I am willing to take their word that it is better than cloth. I am not willing to take their word that it is 95% as effective as an N95 without independent testing.
It’s on the Filti.com website. ??
?Jaya, what I read early on about the effectiveness of Filti is that it’s right up there with N95 mask materials. ?
I’ll see if I can find that again.? On Jul 1, 2020, at 6:23 PM, Jaya Srikrishnan <ermabom@...> wrote:
? This mask pattern apparently comes in many more sizes and is easily adjusted a bit up or down Secondly, the key point of the mask is to protect others from the wearer of the mask. However, a recent study (and I can’t find it right now but it was quoted on my RSS feed today) did some studies on different materials. They used grains of table salt as a stand-in for droplets containing the virus (not the virus itself). They threw varying amounts of salt at masks made of different materials and of different construction. That found that a 2 layer tightly woven cotton mask did the best job of the ones they tested. That is rather limited but says that multiple layers and tighter weave are better than the alternative.?
There is some research that suggests that these larger droplets are not the only issue but that fine aerosolized droplets - which are way finer than table salt - also carry the virus and also are carried further away from the person. These happen with both breathing and talking. The heavier droplets tend to fall to the ground within a few feet of the mouth but these carry further.
While I believe Filti probably provides better protection than a woven cotton because it has way smaller holes if not stuck with pins and sewn through the part of the material over your mouth. I haven’t seen any testing of it. So I take that with a grain of salt while I continue to use it. On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 4:56 PM Melisande R. Wolf via <melisanderwolf= [email protected]> wrote: Ezra’s school has put out a detailed plan for bringing students back to campus in September (for which I am exceedingly grateful for a number of reasons).? Baird’s school hasn’t given us details yet (they don’t have the same options to put students in hotels due to location, but I sure hope they prioritize seniors at school because I don’t think he’s going to be able to write his comps effectively otherwise), but they have said that they’re working on a plan to get most students back on campus.? New Jersey is intending that students go back to school in the fall too. ? All of which mean that I’m going to need to make more masks.? I’m not as concerned about Arielle because I have more ability to launder of otherwise take care of things quickly for her (bigger concern is that we still haven’t found one that really fits well enough to wear for an extended period of time, but I have some ideas), but I want to make sure I send the boys with enough masks (though Mac has explicitly said that they’ll make them available).? ? How many masks do you think I should plan to send with each kid?? Taking opinions about that, and reasons for opinions are good too. ? Slightly related, I saw a write-up of a paper that was recently published about the most effective mask materials.? I haven’t read the paper and don’t know if they looked at anything like a Filti layer, but the researchers concluded that 2 layers of quilting cotton did the best job of protecting other people (nothing included in the article I read about whether they looked at how well the mask protected the “wearer” dummy). ? Melisande
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This ain't the CDC, but it's edifying and reassuring:
This is good enough for me.?
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Mary, You found it!!! ?I knew I’d seen something else about the Filti material. ?and I see they have made more videos on making their platypus masks. ?
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On Jul 2, 2020, at 5:32 PM, mary_007usa via groups.io <sewgood5@...> wrote:
?This ain't the CDC, but it's edifying and reassuring:
This is good enough for me.?
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erica