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FT-301 No Tx Output - Solved!

 

Hi all,

I've had an FT-301 for a couple of years, waiting for restoration. Finally got it on the bench and have been working thru the issues. I thought I'd share information about the biggest issue, which I've just solved. The radio was receiving pretty well, but not putting out as much as a milliwatt. I discovered that the PA brick is fine, and couldn't see any issues with the 10 watt amp either.?After some probing with a voltmeter I realized that there was no Switched Tx 13.8v. So started tracing that circuit, and soon enough found that L2, a 35 uH choke connected to one of the feed-thru capacitors on the underside of the rig, was open.

I replaced L2 with a similar value inductor (with a diode "backwards" across it), and immediately on keying up I was startled by a small explosion and smoke!! A tiny black component going from the downstream side of the choke to ground had fried. Whatever it was, it wasn't in the schematic as far as I could tell. But then I noticed an identical part on the other side of the choke, again going to ground. This one was labeled as "6.8 20v", so a capacitor. Not a form factor I'd ever seen before, but perhaps an early version of a tantalum? (small, black, rectangular shape)? Old tantalums are known for "exciting" fireworks on occasion.

Anyway, I replaced both with 6.8 uF electrolytics even though, as I mentioned earlier, I could not find them in the schematic. Clearly they, along with the 35 uH choke, are designed to keep RF out of the Switched 13.8v Tx line. After that I powered up the radio again, and it now puts out a solid 90-110 watts, depending on band.

I've already replaced all electrolytics in the radio, tightened every screw, have cleaned the card-edge connectors and of course also the case and knobs got a good scrub. Before doing a full alignment my next chore is to do something with the dial and S meter lamps. I find them woefully ... BLAH !! I'm not sure how else to describe it, but they just do not do the radio any justice. I'm going to put in LED's, and may mess around a bit to find some sort of (slight) color filter to give them a bit more "pizzazz." Any suggestions?

Joel, VE6EI


Re: Low power output on 80 meters.

 

I rotated the band selector may times on the 80 meter position and now it is drawing 5 amps so now I am getting some output. I guess I better try to clean the contacts on the band selector.

Next is the carrier balance.? VR501 will not null out the carrier. It almost gets it but no null.?

Switching from CW to USB or AM, The rig momentarily goes into transmit. I guess, a good inspection and

contact cleaning is in order. The rig does not have a CW filter so I ordered one. Found a good deal for a new
Inrad 250 hz filter for 39 bucks on ebay. Last of the few from the manufacturer.


Re: Low power output on 80 meters.

 

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I would first check DRIVER output just disconnect the PWR AMP input BNCs on the back.
If driver making 5-10 watts out, then problem is PWR AMP LPF or band SW wafer switches.

On 2/1/2022 8:12 AM, Robert Holsti wrote:

I have very very low output on 80 meters. It is so low that it does not indicate any current draw on the meter.
I can hear the signal on another receiver. I did not start troubleshooting with the scope yet.?
I just need a starting point so I can start the trouble shooting process. Can anyone give me a starting point ?
Robert KH2BR


no output on 80 meters

 

I have no output on 80 meters, all other bands are ok.
Where do i start to troubleshoot this problem?? I can hear output on a external receiver.
Thanks !!
Robert KH2BR


Low power output on 80 meters.

 

I have very very low output on 80 meters. It is so low that it does not indicate any current draw on the meter.
I can hear the signal on another receiver. I did not start troubleshooting with the scope yet.?
I just need a starting point so I can start the trouble shooting process. Can anyone give me a starting point ?
Robert KH2BR


Re: Yaesu Ft-301

 

If the vox is not working, you can verify the ic mc14011. It's a trouble source.

PP6EW
Emerson

Em qui., 23 de dez. de 2021 ¨¤s 03:29, <vorsterjanco@...> escreveu:

Good day
Im a new yaesu ft-301 user. I have a real head scratcher. My yaesu ft-301 works fine until you press the ptt key then its like it stays in tx mode and the sound output does not return to normal. If it does that you need to power down the radio and power it up agen. If anyone can give me a litil bit of inside why it does that it will be much appreciated.

73
ZS6LVJ


Re: Yaesu Ft-301

 

Check for any loose or broken wires or solder connections. Gene N4FZ



On Dec 25, 2021 at 1:09 PM, <Vorsterjanco> wrote:

I replaced that relay but still nothing it keeps on doing that. I replaced the caps and the diode as well. It doesn't war to work for me.?


Re: Yaesu Ft-301

 

I replaced that relay but still nothing it keeps on doing that. I replaced the caps and the diode as well. It doesn't war to work for me.?


Re: Yaesu Ft-301

 

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Could be that the Tx/Rx relay is sticking in the transmit position. Removing power would reset it. The relay may need to be replaced. Or it possibly could be removed and the contacts burnished.

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Joel Weder, VE6EI

403-701-9727

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Re: Yaesu Ft-301

 

The vox is completly down. I tryd dummy load and an dipole antena it doesnt change unfortunatly. I can put the trive switch whaerever i want its still the same unfortunately


Re: Yaesu Ft-301

 

Starting with the simple reasons first is the vox turned up a bit? Does it do it into a dummy load? Does it do it if the Power is turned right down.
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 06:29, <vorsterjanco@...> wrote:
Good day
Im a new yaesu ft-301 user. I have a real head scratcher. My yaesu ft-301 works fine until you press the ptt key then its like it stays in tx mode and the sound output does not return to normal. If it does that you need to power down the radio and power it up agen. If anyone can give me a litil bit of inside why it does that it will be much appreciated.

73
ZS6LVJ


Yaesu Ft-301

 

Good day
Im a new yaesu ft-301 user. I have a real head scratcher. My yaesu ft-301 works fine until you press the ptt key then its like it stays in tx mode and the sound output does not return to normal. If it does that you need to power down the radio and power it up agen. If anyone can give me a litil bit of inside why it does that it will be much appreciated.

73
ZS6LVJ


Re: CW output on FT301

 

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Possible VOX settings/circuit problems?

On 10/27/2021 9:00 PM, Mel Snyder wrote:

When I push to talk.


On Oct 27, 2021, at 18:00, Dave smith <dave.goathland@...> wrote:

?Does the chattering happen when you just power up the rig, or is it when you press the push to talk.
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Re: CW output on FT301

 

Ok Mel¡­.it looks like the voltage applied to the relay to change it over night be dropping as the relay changes over¡­.a poke about with your test meter might prove this ¡­..then it may be a matter of looking for the reason for the voltage dropping.
perhaps a short or something ?drawing too much current in the TX . May need you to disconnect the Power rail at various points to isolate that which has failed or is drawing too much current.
long distance fault finding is not easy! Hope that has given you some ideas.

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Re: CW output on FT301

 

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When I push to talk.


On Oct 27, 2021, at 18:00, Dave smith <dave.goathland@...> wrote:

?Does the chattering happen when you just power up the rig, or is it when you press the push to talk.
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Re: CW output on FT301

 

Does the chattering happen when you just power up the rig, or is it when you press the push to talk.
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Re: CW output on FT301

 

Carlos (and others)

I¡¯ve got an FT-301 (analog dial) - the first new rig I owned as a ham (1978) - and it¡¯s been sick since I sent it for service in 2009 to a guy who¡¯s now SK. A few months back, I turned it on for the first time in probably 10 years. Receive seems good, but - as before - the transmit relay just chatters.

I¡¯m not without gear - I have my SK OM¡¯s TS940S, a KX3, and the FT-707 I had on my now-departed sailboat for 38 years.

But I¡¯d sure like to get the FT-301 working. I suspected a voltage issue but can¡¯t find any trouble-shooting indications of what might be the issue. Your answer on this thread suggests you¡¯re a FT-301 pro - do you have any ideas?

Mel - W3PYF?

On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 10:38 PM Carlos <py1egg@...> wrote:
Hi Dave,

The FT301 uses a separate 8999.3kHz crystal?for transmission, you?ll find it as X401 in the IF Unit (PB1436B):

Schematic: Page 16, figure 15 /?Description: Page 19
CW adjustment: THIS PROCEDURE IS MISSING!
TC401?CW frequency /?TC402?CW level

However, the alignment? procedure for CW TX adjustment (frequency and level) is similar to the AM mode, considering the due differences (power levels, no modulation, etc...):

AM Unit (PB1556), X2001 8999.3kHz
Schematic: Page 17, figure 17 /?Description: Page 19
AM adjustment: Page 34-35 ("MAINTENANCE & ALIGNMENT")
TC2001 (Item 1)? AM frequency /?VR2001 (Item 3)? AM level
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I keep my FT-301D working perfectly as new, mine has the three original IF filters and the superb display replacement designed by?WA7ZVY, thanks Paul!
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73 de PY1EGG - Carlos

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Mel Snyder
melsnyder@...


Re: CW output on FT301

 

As Dave points out the CW OSC is on the IF board. Make sure DRIVE control is fully CW and measure pin 3 on the IF board in CW MODE.This enables CW from the MODE switch. If not there, MODE SW contacts might be at fault.


Re: My Bargan FT 301S?

 

Congratulations Dave! They are fine rigs. Enjoy & 73 Gene N4FZ?



On Oct 26, 2021 at 10:17 AM, <Dave smith> wrote:

Well thanks to the help received on here, my bargan price 301S is compleatly aligned and is up and running. Now I shall have to think about a paint job for the case, but I have had 2 QSOs on it with compliments about the audio quality.
Thanks folks.
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My Bargan FT 301S?

 

Well thanks to the help received on here, my bargan price 301S is compleatly aligned and is up and running. Now I shall have to think about a paint job for the case, but I have had 2 QSOs on it with compliments about the audio quality.
Thanks folks.
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