Re: Email client output rework

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Its awesome by comparison. Much easier on my eyes. Steve kb1chu

On 1/18/2020 5:57 PM, Ronny Julian wrote:

Upon suggestion of another list member I'm changing my Fonts and output from the standard small Goggle interface.? Anyone have issues reading this?? Thanks!

Ronny

K4RJJ

Email client output rework

Ronny Julian

#121

Upon suggestion of another list member I'm changing my Fonts and output from the standard small Goggle interface.? Anyone have issues reading this?? Thanks!

Ronny

K4RJJ

Re: Where to find a Stable Version of YAAC

#120

Ah, very interesting. I just watched the YouTube video. I'll have to try his script on another Pi (my Pi with the touchscreen is currently running the NW Digital Radio image for supporting their DRAWS card, so YAAC and Xastir are already installed).

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 9:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Where to find a Stable Version of YAAC

Andrew not sure if you have seen Jason's script either.  If you feel anything could be done different on YAAC in this please let Jason know.  He is actively working on improving this and would love to work with anyone of the authors I'm sure.  

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 9:24 AM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...<mailto:andrewemt@...>> wrote:
Greetings.

I'm not sure what you mean by the "installer". YAAC doesn't have an installation program per se; you just unzip the distribution into a directory of your choice, and then invoke the main YAAC.jar file by clicking on it in your O/S file manager, or using the command line

java -jar YAAC.jar

when cd'd into the YAAC installation directory. And the built-in upgrader does the same thing (downloads and unzips the new version over the old version).

So, I'm not sure where you found an installer. Please explain exactly what you were doing.

Also, I haven't tested YAAC with Java 13 yet. So you may have found some weird bug due to new constraints in that version of the runtime (I had to make some fixes to deal with Java 9).

Let me know how you're "installing" YAAC.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of N9JCA Chris Matthews <n9jca.chris@...<mailto:n9jca.chris@...>>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 1:08 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [yaac-users] Where to find a Stable Version of YAAC

I have tried to install the latest Beta with no success
Is there a Stable version to be Had somewhere
I have Java Runtime13 installed on LMDE (Stretch)
When I Right Click on the Installer I choose "Install with Java Runtime13"
but no luck
If I can get it working then I will be running my Kenwood 700D
from Home
Thanks in advance
Chris N9JCA
73

Re: Where to find a Stable Version of YAAC

Ronny Julian

#119

Andrew not sure if you have seen Jason's script either.? If you feel anything could be done different on YAAC in this please let Jason know.? He is actively?working on improving this and would love to work with anyone of the authors I'm sure.??

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On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 9:24 AM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:

Greetings.

I'm not sure what you mean by the "installer". YAAC doesn't have an installation program per se; you just unzip the distribution into a directory of your choice, and then invoke the main YAAC.jar file by clicking on it in your O/S file manager, or using the command line

java -jar YAAC.jar

when cd'd into the YAAC installation directory. And the built-in upgrader does the same thing (downloads and unzips the new version over the old version).

So, I'm not sure where you found an installer. Please explain exactly what you were doing.

Also, I haven't tested YAAC with Java 13 yet. So you may have found some weird bug due to new constraints in that version of the runtime (I had to make some fixes to deal with Java 9).

Let me know how you're "installing" YAAC.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of N9JCA Chris Matthews <n9jca.chris@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 1:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Where to find a Stable Version of YAAC

I have tried to install the latest Beta with no success
Is there a Stable version to be Had somewhere
I have Java Runtime13 installed on LMDE (Stretch)
When I Right Click on the Installer I choose "Install with Java Runtime13"
but no luck
If I can get it working then I will be running my Kenwood 700D
from Home
Thanks in advance
Chris N9JCA
73

Re: Where to find a Stable Version of YAAC

#118

Greetings.

I'm not sure what you mean by the "installer". YAAC doesn't have an installation program per se; you just unzip the distribution into a directory of your choice, and then invoke the main YAAC.jar file by clicking on it in your O/S file manager, or using the command line 

java -jar YAAC.jar

when cd'd into the YAAC installation directory. And the built-in upgrader does the same thing (downloads and unzips the new version over the old version).

So, I'm not sure where you found an installer. Please explain exactly what you were doing.

Also, I haven't tested YAAC with Java 13 yet. So you may have found some weird bug due to new constraints in that version of the runtime (I had to make some fixes to deal with Java 9).

Let me know how you're "installing" YAAC.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of N9JCA Chris Matthews <n9jca.chris@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2020 1:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Where to find a Stable Version of YAAC

I have tried to install the latest Beta with no success
Is there a Stable version to be Had somewhere
I have Java Runtime13 installed on LMDE (Stretch)
When I Right Click on the Installer I choose "Install with Java Runtime13"
but no luck
If I can get it working then I will be running my Kenwood 700D
from Home
Thanks in advance
Chris N9JCA
73

Re: Where to find a Stable Version of YAAC

Ronny Julian

#117

Let us know what does not work and further steps.? Might want to check this out also.? Jason has put together a good overall script.? Not just for YAAC.??

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On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 9:18 AM N9JCA Chris Matthews <n9jca.chris@...> wrote:

I have tried to install the latest Beta with no success
Is there a Stable version to be Had somewhere
I have Java Runtime13 installed on LMDE (Stretch)
When I Right Click on the Installer I choose "Install with Java Runtime13"
but no luck
If I can get it working then I will be running my Kenwood 700D
from Home
Thanks in advance
Chris N9JCA
73

Where to find a Stable Version of YAAC

N9JCA Chris Matthews

#116

I have tried to install the latest Beta with no success
Is there a Stable version to be Had somewhere
I have Java Runtime13 installed on LMDE (Stretch)
When I Right Click on the Installer I choose "Install with Java Runtime13"
but no luck
If I can get it working then I will be running my Kenwood 700D
from Home
Thanks in advance
Chris N9JCA
73

Re: Pi 0?

#115

‘Default-jdk ’ is not installed so not removed

Openjdk-8-jre is already the newest version?

error occurred during initialization of VM
server VM is only supported on ARMv7+ VFP

Re: Pi 0?

#114

Hmmm.... you might have too new a version of Java installed where they no longer support the older processors.

Try this:

sudo bash
apt-get remove default-jdk
apt-get install openjdk-8-jre
java -version

and see what happens.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of daniel boggiano via Groups.Io <dboggny@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 7:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Pi 0?

I got the same error.

error occurred during initialization of VM
server VM is only supported on ARMv7+ VFP

Re: Pi 0?

#113

I got the same error.?

error occurred during initialization of VM
server VM is only supported on ARMv7+ VFP

Re: Pi 0?

#112

Interesting. That implies that the Java runtime included with Raspbian won't work on the ARM chip the Pi Zero has on board.

Just for chuckles, in a command window on the Pi, enter the following commands:

arch
java -client -version


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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of daniel boggiano via Groups.Io <dboggny@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 7:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Pi 0?

The error is:
error occurred during initialization of VM
server VM is only supported on ARMv7+ VFP.

with regards to your other instructions, I have not yet tried the Bluetooth plug in as you suggest but bind the kenwood kiss tnc and create a port in Yaac. Only because that’s how I learned to do it and so I keep doing that way. I will try the Bluetooth plugin however as I continue to learn this program.

thanks

Re: Pi 0?

#111

The error is:
error occurred during initialization of VM
server VM is only supported on ARMv7+ VFP.?

with regards to your other instructions, I have not yet tried the Bluetooth plug in as you suggest but bind the kenwood kiss tnc and create a port in Yaac. Only because that’s how I learned to do it and so I keep doing that way. I will try the Bluetooth plugin however as I continue to learn this program.?

thanks

Re: Pi 0?

#110

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-------- Original message --------
From: "Andrew P." <andrewemt@...>
Date: 1/16/20 16:10 (GMT-05:00)
To: "daniel boggiano via Groups.Io" <dboggny@...>
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Pi 0?

Note that you will have to run the graphical desktop on the Pi, as YAAC expects to use the desktop for rendering its views. Also, you may want to install the Bluetooth plugin for YAAC and not bind the Kenwood to the Pi (YAAC's plugin handles the Bluetooth Serial Port Protocol at a lower level). Being Linux, you should also be able to use the /dev/rfcommN devices if you bind.

You will need to install the openjdk-N-jre (where N is the Java release number) and librxtx-java packages.

-------- Original message --------
From: "daniel boggiano via Groups.Io" <dboggny@...>
Date: 1/16/20 15:41 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Pi 0?

Last time I tried to run it, it gave me an error on the 0. I will try again and write down exactly what it said. As far as interface etc, VNC from iPhone/iPad as my screen keyboard as well as a Bluetooth keyboard. My desire was just to use the kenwood port Bluetooth with my HT for aprs.?

Re: Pi 0?

#109

Last time I tried to run it, it gave me an error on the 0. I will try again and write down exactly what it said. As far as interface etc, VNC from iPhone/iPad as my screen keyboard as well as a Bluetooth keyboard. My desire was just to use the kenwood port Bluetooth with my HT for aprs.?

Re: Pi 0?

#108

There's no reason why YAAC _shouldn't_ run on a Pi Zero, other than response time (it ran on a Pi 1B). But what are you going to display the output on? If you have to drag an HDMI monitor around to see the results, you're not really saving much in terms of weight/bulk/power consumption. Also, a Pi Zero is a bit skimpy on CPU power and RAM, so you might have trouble fitting YAAC onto it with reasonable responsiveness (it was sluggish on the Pi 1B). And what are you going to use for human user input to YAAC (touchscreen, Bluetooth keyboard/glidepad, etc.)?

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of daniel boggiano via Groups.Io <dboggny@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 11:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Pi 0?

Is there any way to get YAAC to run on a Pi 0. I would like to use it as a “screen” or data viewer for my kenwood HT via Bluetooth.
Thanks

Pi 0?

#107

Is there any way to get YAAC to run on a Pi 0. I would like to use it as a “screen” or data viewer for my kenwood HT via Bluetooth.?
Thanks

Re: RXTX native library not found

#106

Thank you for the quick reply. 
I verified librxtx-java was installed. Went through the expert mode configuration. Could not see anything wrong with it. Verified call sign passcode.
Just for the fun of it I logged out and back in as root. Started YAAC and it ran the configuration. After configuration YAAC runs flawlessly. If I log out as root and back in as a user, it will not function again. The configuration appears to be identical. Logging back in as root and it functions well.  It’s got me bewildered. All I can think of is maybe a corrupt configuration file. Not sure where to go from here. 
Thank you for the assistance 
Alan N2ZVN

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On Jan 14, 2020, at 17:52, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:

?That's odd. You should have been getting that error all along unless you did some upgrade to Raspbian that uninstalled the librxtx-java package (the library that implements hardware serial port access for YAAC). Ensure it is installed by issuing the following command at a LXTerminal prompt:

sudo apt-get install librxtx-java

As for no longer showing up on aprs.fi, since you reconfigured your system, my guess is that you either:

1. disabled the beacon from being transmitted;
2. changed the definition of your APRS-IS port to Transmit Disabled; or
3. didn't enter your APRS-IS server passcode correctly so the backbone server won't accept your transmitted traffic.

So, _don't_ use the configuration wizard. Instead, use File->Configure->Expert Mode, and check that the Beacon tab shows your beacon is enabled, and the Ports tab, when you click on your APRS-IS port in the table and click the Edit button, shows that the port is Transmit Enabled and make sure you have the correct passcode entered.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Alan Bartkowiak <N2ZVN.AE@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] RXTX native library not found

Good afternoon Andrew,
Not sure where to begin here. First of all I am very new to Linux so everything I do with it has to be looked up from commands to syntax.
I am using a raspberry Pi 4b with raspbian buster.  I had YAAC running flawlessly for about 2 weeks in a APRS-IS fashion. Will be adding digi and Igate in the very near future through direwolf.  The problem is it worked fine till I installed the last version of YAAC 20200110. When YAAC was restarted, I got the error RXTX native library not found. After clicking OK I was taken to the configuration wizard. I reconfigured and now all I get is receive packets. My node no longer shows up on APRS.fi and can no longer send messages. The error message no longer shows up on a restart however can not TX.
I followed the help file for install Librxtx-java
But got a file not found error.
Thank you for any assistance in advance,
Alan N2ZVN

Re: RXTX native library not found

#105

That's odd. You should have been getting that error all along unless you did some upgrade to Raspbian that uninstalled the librxtx-java package (the library that implements hardware serial port access for YAAC). Ensure it is installed by issuing the following command at a LXTerminal prompt:

sudo apt-get install librxtx-java

As for no longer showing up on aprs.fi, since you reconfigured your system, my guess is that you either:

1. disabled the beacon from being transmitted;
2. changed the definition of your APRS-IS port to Transmit Disabled; or
3. didn't enter your APRS-IS server passcode correctly so the backbone server won't accept your transmitted traffic.

So, _don't_ use the configuration wizard. Instead, use File->Configure->Expert Mode, and check that the Beacon tab shows your beacon is enabled, and the Ports tab, when you click on your APRS-IS port in the table and click the Edit button, shows that the port is Transmit Enabled and make sure you have the correct passcode entered.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Alan Bartkowiak <N2ZVN.AE@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] RXTX native library not found

Good afternoon Andrew,
Not sure where to begin here. First of all I am very new to Linux so everything I do with it has to be looked up from commands to syntax.
I am using a raspberry Pi 4b with raspbian buster.  I had YAAC running flawlessly for about 2 weeks in a APRS-IS fashion. Will be adding digi and Igate in the very near future through direwolf.  The problem is it worked fine till I installed the last version of YAAC 20200110. When YAAC was restarted, I got the error RXTX native library not found. After clicking OK I was taken to the configuration wizard. I reconfigured and now all I get is receive packets. My node no longer shows up on APRS.fi and can no longer send messages. The error message no longer shows up on a restart however can not TX.
I followed the help file for install Librxtx-java
But got a file not found error.
Thank you for any assistance in advance,
Alan N2ZVN

RXTX native library not found

#104

Good afternoon Andrew,
Not sure where to begin here. First of all I am very new to Linux so everything I do with it has to be looked up from commands to syntax. 
I am using a raspberry Pi 4b with raspbian buster.  I had YAAC running flawlessly for about 2 weeks in a APRS-IS fashion. Will be adding digi and Igate in the very near future through direwolf.  The problem is it worked fine till I installed the last version of YAAC 20200110. When YAAC was restarted, I got the error RXTX native library not found. After clicking OK I was taken to the configuration wizard. I reconfigured and now all I get is receive packets. My node no longer shows up on APRS.fi and can no longer send messages. The error message no longer shows up on a restart however can not TX. 
I followed the help file for install Librxtx-java 
But got a file not found error. 
Thank you for any assistance in advance,
Alan N2ZVN

Re: Stand alone (no internet) field APRS 'service'

#103

THANK YOU Andrew :-) Your reply to my question has enabled me to now understand the core concepts of APRS and cleared up the mystery I have been trying to unravel for quite some time!

Zero reliance on the Internet makes perfect sense from an amateur radio perspective and with this insight, I am very confident of being able to implement an APRS service for local events such as cycle races and the like as and when required.?

Your mention of using a frequency other than the designated national APRS frequency was another 'light bulb' moment for me!?

Thanks again for taking time to answer my question - it is most sincerely appreciated.?

Let the experimenting begin ;-)

73 Nigel ZS6RN?