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Re: Feature request

 

I now have my Weather station and another listed in the Health Monitor and monitoring them in Weather Station Status. VK7DSH-1 is not being displayed correctly, course and speed are the only fields populated. My own VK7TM-1 is populating the fields correctly. As VK7DSH-1 is not displaying correctly when monitored I suspect YAAC is not happy with its weather packet, he has a message tacked on the end which may be causing the problem. I'll pay him a visit and see if it can be removed to check if it is the culprit.
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Yes I'm referring to the pop up window when I click on a station. The weather information disappears when I click on another weather station. I'd prefer to have weather station pop up windows stay active so I can monitor several at once. Though I have been playing and pretty much what I require can be achieved with View Station on "Radio".
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Just one other small issue is the color scheme in Health Monitor, most of the fields have a light green background and with the Tan? colored text it is extremely difficult to read.
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Thanks for your efforts.
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Mike, VK7TM


Re: Feature request

 

Hello, Mike.

I'm not sure I quite follow you. Are you referring to the View->Weather Status dialog for your local station? Or the popup window on the map when you click on a station? The latter shows only the weather data fields that particular station has, so it might look different on different stations (ex.: stations with versus without barometric pressure sensors).

Another alternative present in YAAC now is the monitored stations list. If you monitor a station, it goes on a special list with several table views in the View->Health Monitor window. If you are monitoring the weather health of several weather stations, they will be displayed in a consistent tabular view, including indicating what sensors of a station are not consistent with the US NWS MADIS quality checks relative to the other stations.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of vk7tm.mike@... <vk7tm.mike@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2024 10:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Feature request

Hello Andrew,
When I click on my weather station icon my weather data is nicely displayed in a window.
How about the same format for weather stations other than my own and to allow each of these to remain open when I select another station to see its information.
Regards,
Mike VK7TM


Feature request

 

Hello Andrew,
When I click on my weather station icon my weather data is nicely displayed in a window.
How about the same format for weather stations other than my own and to allow each of these to remain open when I select another station to see its information.
Regards,
Mike VK7TM


Re: APRS-IS Filter

 

The BulletinBoard view will display any bulletins that you receive (i.e., someone on your RF channel or within your APRS-IS port filter has to send them).

The retention period for all YAAC displays is configured on the expert-mode Configuration dialog on the General tab. The "Time to keep" is approximately how long a packet will be held in memory by YAAC for display and analysis purposes. The "Maximum age to view" is how old (relative to YAAC's reception time of the packet) a packet can be before it is no longer displayed. It doesn't make sense for view age to be larger than keep time, since anything that isn't kept can't be viewed, but the opposite can be useful when you want to see more current information and less ancient information in the displays.

"Time to keep" can be forced down automatically by YAAC if you are receiving a large amount of traffic relative to the amount of heap memory you are allowing the Java virtual machine to allocate to YAAC. Rather than have YAAC hang or crash due to out-of-memory errors, YAAC will push down the "Time to keep" setting so the next purge of out-of-date packets will hopefully free up more memory.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Chiefsfan2 <chiefsfan2@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 8:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] APRS-IS Filter

Thank you Andrew. Yes some of that was typo and most was just wrong on my part. I have made some changes so we will see what happens.

A couple more questions.

Is it possible to populate the bulletin board with bln front aprs-is.

When the message page pops up the messages disappear pretty fast. Where do I stet that to stay longer especially messages sent to my call.


Re: APRS-IS Filter

 

Thank you Andrew. Yes some of that was typo and most was just wrong on my part. I have made some changes ?so we will see what happens.?

A couple more questions.

Is it possible to populate the bulletin board with bln front aprs-is.

When the message page pops up the messages disappear pretty fast. Where do I stet that to stay longer especially messages sent to my call.?




On Wednesday, September 25, 2024, 06:26, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:

Someone else is already forwarding those weather alerts from all the US NWS field offices to the APRS-IS backbone. What Dale is apparently trying to do is get those reports from his local NWS field offices forwarded to his local RF channel.

Andrew, KA2DDO


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jamie H <wa7jh@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 12:14:26 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] APRS-IS Filter

Soooooooo..

I have to have a little fun here as I am intrigued by this discussion.

If I'm reading this right, we can take a Weather Alert and feed that to APRS via YAAC? If true, I want to learn how......

And I know what's wrong with Dale's configuration. Its that he's a Chiefs fan..? Go Hawks!!!!!!! Hi HI......

73 all of you, thank you all for threads here.

Jamie Hughes
WA7JH
(360) 340-8886


Re: APRS-IS Filter

 

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Someone else is already forwarding those weather alerts from all the US NWS field offices to the APRS-IS backbone. What Dale is apparently trying to do is get those reports from his local NWS field offices forwarded to his local RF channel.

Andrew, KA2DDO


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jamie H <wa7jh@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2024 12:14:26 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] APRS-IS Filter

Soooooooo..

I have to have a little fun here as I am intrigued by this discussion.

If I'm reading this right, we can take a Weather Alert and feed that to APRS via YAAC? If true, I want to learn how......

And I know what's wrong with Dale's configuration. Its that he's a Chiefs fan..? Go Hawks!!!!!!! Hi HI......

73 all of you, thank you all for threads here.

Jamie Hughes
WA7JH
(360) 340-8886


Re: APRS-IS Filter

 

Soooooooo..

I have to have a little fun here as I am intrigued by this discussion.

If I'm reading this right, we can take a Weather Alert and feed that to APRS via YAAC? If true, I want to learn how......

And I know what's wrong with Dale's configuration. Its that he's a Chiefs fan.. Go Hawks!!!!!!! Hi HI......

73 all of you, thank you all for threads here.

Jamie Hughes
WA7JH
(360) 340-8886

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andrew P.
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 7:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] APRS-IS Filter

The difference between the APRS-IS port filter and the supplemental Tx I-gate filter is as follows:

The APRS-IS port filter controls what extra comes _into_ YAAC from the APRS-IS backbone. The supplemental Tx I-gate filter specifies what extra will be _forced_ to RF of what was received (assuming you are configured to allow Tx I-gating at all, which is a separate checkbox in the expert-mode configuration dialog). Which means that you can force all you want, but if it doesn't come in, it won't be there to be forced out.

I hope that period after K0FJ* is a typo in writing your email, because it wouldn't match either of the callsigns. I hope you don't have the literal word "filter" in your YAAC filter expressions, because it is automatically injected prior to the expression you specify, and would cause a syntax error in the filter parsers (saying "filter filter m/600 ..."). Also, specifying the NWS stations as NWSGLD isn't going to work; the examples I have seen are messages GLDSVR (for severe weather from GLD). So you might want to just look for senders GLD* and DDR* (since neither of those starts are valid amateur radio callsign prefixes). Other suffixes to those three-letter NWS offices are things like TOR (tornado), SVS (severe weather), FLS (flood), etc.

Also, that is _way_ too much to specify in a supplemental Tx filter, because you won't have enough bandwidth to force all that out to RF. A 600-kilometer radius of traffic shoved onto a 1200-baud channel, when normal RF range maxes out around 100km (unless you have some serious mountain digipeaters) and channel saturation can easily be much smaller than that?

An Object sticks around for 3 retransmission intervals after you kill it, to send "I'm a dead Object" message (so other stations don't have to wait for it to timeout in 80 minutes).

If you delete an Object from the Local Objects table without changing it to killed status first, then the received traffic (from digipeaters) will continue to sit there until your data purging time interval is reached (since you will never receive a "killed Object" report).

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Chiefsfan2 <chiefsfan2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 8:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] APRS-IS Filter

Back when I was using UI-View I use to gate wx warnings to RF from 2 od my area NWS offices. UI-View had a special area to add stations you wanted to gate. I would put NWSDDC* and NWSGLD* in that list and I would get the warnings. In Yaac I have my APR-IS filter in the port settings to fllter m/600 b/K0FJ*.W0RBO*/NWSDDC*/NWSGLD*/ t/nwt but am getting no alerts. I have the sane in the supplemental TX I-gate filter as well. I havent figured out the differnce between the two.

Also I was testing sending out objects to certain locations. I then went to kill the object but it still shows on my screen although it isnt being sent out anymore? Thanks Dale


Re: APRS-IS Filter

 

The difference between the APRS-IS port filter and the supplemental Tx I-gate filter is as follows:

The APRS-IS port filter controls what extra comes _into_ YAAC from the APRS-IS backbone. The supplemental Tx I-gate filter specifies what extra will be _forced_ to RF of what was received (assuming you are configured to allow Tx I-gating at all, which is a separate checkbox in the expert-mode configuration dialog). Which means that you can force all you want, but if it doesn't come in, it won't be there to be forced out.

I hope that period after K0FJ* is a typo in writing your email, because it wouldn't match either of the callsigns. I hope you don't have the literal word "filter" in your YAAC filter expressions, because it is automatically injected prior to the expression you specify, and would cause a syntax error in the filter parsers (saying "filter filter m/600 ..."). Also, specifying the NWS stations as NWSGLD isn't going to work; the examples I have seen are messages GLDSVR (for severe weather from GLD). So you might want to just look for senders GLD* and DDR* (since neither of those starts are valid amateur radio callsign prefixes). Other suffixes to those three-letter NWS offices are things like TOR (tornado), SVS (severe weather), FLS (flood), etc.

Also, that is _way_ too much to specify in a supplemental Tx filter, because you won't have enough bandwidth to force all that out to RF. A 600-kilometer radius of traffic shoved onto a 1200-baud channel, when normal RF range maxes out around 100km (unless you have some serious mountain digipeaters) and channel saturation can easily be much smaller than that?

An Object sticks around for 3 retransmission intervals after you kill it, to send "I'm a dead Object" message (so other stations don't have to wait for it to timeout in 80 minutes).

If you delete an Object from the Local Objects table without changing it to killed status first, then the received traffic (from digipeaters) will continue to sit there until your data purging time interval is reached (since you will never receive a "killed Object" report).

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Chiefsfan2 <chiefsfan2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 8:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] APRS-IS Filter

Back when I was using UI-View I use to gate wx warnings to RF from 2 od my area NWS offices. UI-View had a special area to add stations you wanted to gate. I would put NWSDDC* and NWSGLD* in that list and I would get the warnings. In Yaac I have my APR-IS filter in the port settings to fllter m/600 b/K0FJ*.W0RBO*/NWSDDC*/NWSGLD*/ t/nwt but am getting no alerts. I have the sane in the supplemental TX I-gate filter as well. I havent figured out the differnce between the two.

Also I was testing sending out objects to certain locations. I then went to kill the object but it still shows on my screen although it isnt being sent out anymore? Thanks Dale


APRS-IS Filter

 

Back when I was using UI-View I use to gate wx warnings to RF from 2 od my area NWS offices. UI-View had a special area to add stations you wanted to gate. I would put NWSDDC* and NWSGLD* in that list and I would get the warnings. In Yaac I have my APR-IS filter in the port settings to fllter m/600 b/K0FJ*.W0RBO*/NWSDDC*/NWSGLD*/ t/nwt but am getting no alerts. I have the sane in the supplemental TX I-gate filter as well. I havent figured out the differnce between the two.?

Also I was testing sending out objects to certain locations. I then went to kill the object but it still shows on my screen although it isnt being sent out anymore? Thanks Dale?


Re: Import CSV file to make objects

 

You can delete the entire contents of some tables. For example, if you open the View->Local Objects table, you can choose File->Clear Table to delete every local Object.

But there's nothing in-between to delete some but not all local Objects.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark <mark.lindsey.8711@...>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 11:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Import CSV file to make objects

Once you have imported a POS file is there a way to un-import it too? I have'nt found a way other than closing YAAC and restarting, or deleting each object individually.
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Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA USA


Re: Import CSV file to make objects

 

Once you have imported a POS file is there a way to un-import it too?? I have'nt found a way other than closing YAAC and restarting, or deleting each object individually.
--
Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
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Re: next beta build#202 of YAAC, cerated 2024-Sep-07

 

Andrew,
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YAAC is beaconing thank you. ?How do I get it to digipeate?
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Then I am off and ready for the bike race. ?I have the course loaded and the all the reststops too.?
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Tim?


Re: No Beacon

 

Typical no-beacon reasons:

1. The beacon record isn't enabled (on the Beacon tab in expert-mode configuration).
2. The RF port (AGWPE, Serial_TNC, etc.) is not configured for transmit-enabled.
3. The RF port is not associated with the named beacon record (for multi-RF-port configurations with different beacons for each port).
4. The PTT isn't correctly configured in your software TNC.
5. The PTT signal path isn't correctly wired to the radio.
6. The PTT polarity isn't set correctly.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Tim Huffaker <thuffaker@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 9:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] No Beacon

I running YAAC after a long while for the yearly bicycle event. I noticed when I select BCN after was able to update YAAC it will not transmit a beacon. I checked the normal suspects but cannot get it work. My packet engine is direwolf running as a Kiss TNC.

What are the common reasons YAAC will not beacon to help find my error.

Tim
KM4ESU


Re: No Beacon

 

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Have you examined the files in YAAC/logdir ?


On 9/17/24 18:29, Tim Huffaker via groups.io wrote:

I running YAAC after a long while for the yearly bicycle event. ?I noticed when I select BCN after was able to update YAAC it will not transmit a beacon. I checked the normal suspects but cannot get it work. ?My packet engine is direwolf running as a Kiss TNC.?
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What are the common reasons YAAC will not beacon to help find my error. ?
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Tim
KM4ESU


No Beacon

 
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I running YAAC after a long while for the yearly bicycle event. ?I noticed when I select BCN after was able to update YAAC it will not transmit a beacon. I checked the normal suspects but cannot get it work. ?My packet engine is direwolf running as a Kiss TNC.?
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I also have tried sending APRS messages too and on this I see the RF go red but nothing is transmitted. ?
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What are the common reasons YAAC will not beacon to help find my error. ?
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Tim
KM4ESU


Re: next beta build#202 of YAAC, cerated 2024-Sep-07

 

You have to run the upgrade through to completion.

While running your old version of YAAC, choose the menu entry Help->Check for Updates. If it finds a newer version, it will see if your system allows upgrading (it may not, depending on how the old version was installed; perhaps with a different user account such as "root" so the user running YAAC now doesn't have permissions to overwrite it), and, if OK, download the YAAC.zip file. It will then ask you if you want to run the upgrader. If you don't run the upgrader, the YAAC.zip file won't be unpacked to upgrade your existing installation.

When the upgrader is finished, you don't have to let it start the new version of YAAC for you, although you can. I always start the new version manually from a command shell window (not by clicking an icon), so I can see if there are any unexpected error messages.

But the important part is not only downloading the new version, but installing it over the old version.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Tim Huffaker <thuffaker@...>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 8:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] next beta build#202 of YAAC, cerated 2024-Sep-07

Andrew,

Yes, it is bike ride time again. I am trying to upgrade YAAC, and I have an Icon on my desktop to launch YAAC. Unfortunately, the icon does not call up the new software. How can I get the icon to call up the new version of YAAC?

Thank you for your wonder program.

Tim
KM4ESU


Re: next beta build#202 of YAAC, cerated 2024-Sep-07

 

Andrew,
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I left off my icon file.?
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[Desktop Entry]
Name=YAAC
Exec=/usr/bin/java -jar /home/pi/YAAC/YAAC.jar
Comment=Yet Another APRS Client
Icon=/home/pi/YAAC/images/yaaclogo64.ico
Path=/home/pi/YAAC
Terminal=true
Type=Application
Categories=HamRadio
Keywords=Ham Radio;APRS Client;KISS;AGWPE;AX.25


Re: next beta build#202 of YAAC, cerated 2024-Sep-07

 

Andrew,
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Yes, it is bike ride time again. ?I am trying to upgrade YAAC, and I have an Icon on my desktop to launch YAAC. ?Unfortunately, the icon does not call up the new software. ?How can I get the icon to call up the new version of YAAC?
?
Thank you for your wonder program.
?
Tim?
KM4ESU


Re: beacon button remains grey

 

I presume you used the wizard to do your initial configuration. In that case, the wizard only pulls in around 100km radius of 1-degree tiles of map data; if that happens to be part-way across a tile, the whole tile is pulled in. This is reasonable as a default, since APRS is a local tactical protocol, so you wouldn't be able to hear RF stations much further away unless you have an unusual digipeater environment. But if you want to pull in more, go to the menu choice File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles, and specify the radius you want to pull in, and let YAAC pull the larger quantity of tiles from my server.

As for the beacon button being gray, on the last panel of the wizard (Finish Configuring Beacon), did you check the "Enable station beacon" checkbox? If you didn't, then you can't send beacons, because you configured YAAC to not do so.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of SV?SGS via groups.io <sv0sgs@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2024 7:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] beacon button remains grey

Hello! It looks like I have direwolf and the latest yaac set up correctly. no error messages. i have configured both tcp-ip and agwpe ports and connected my HT via cable to the audio input/output of my laptop. I am running windoz 10 for this exercise. The beacon button remains grey. What have I missed?

Also, when I zoom out on the map, the tiles are not filled in. See pic below:

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how can i get yaac to fill in the tiles so that i can view a larger map area?

thanks in advance for anyone's help.
vy 73 david sv0sgs


beacon button remains grey

 

Hello!? It looks like I have direwolf and the latest yaac set up correctly. no error messages.? i have configured both tcp-ip and agwpe ports and connected my HT via cable to the audio input/output of my laptop.? I am running windoz 10 for this exercise.? The beacon button remains grey.? What have I missed?
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Also, when I zoom out on the map, the tiles are not filled in.? See pic below:
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how can i get yaac to fill in the tiles so that i can view a larger map area?
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thanks in advance for anyone's help.
vy 73 david sv0sgs