Note that Bob's spec says that the frequency must follow the symbol code 'r' in the format "146.950MHz", followed by a whitespace and then the T value. Because these objects don't gave the correctly formatted frequency as the first part of the
free-text comment, they won't work on a Kenwood nor on YAAC.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 9:04:24 AM
Ok, the local digi is broadcasting the following
"VK1RGI-1>APDW15:;146.95 ? *111111z3531.60S/14846.30ErT091 -060 2mRPT”
"VK1RGI-1>APDW15:;146.90 ? *111111z3523.10S/14848.80ErT091 -060 2mRPT”
which as far as I can see is right?
What it is showing on the map are a heap of stations, none of which are repeaters. ?There is nothing showing in the table though.
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Any ideas?
Carl
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This is exactly what I see.
KO4NCC Jeff
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Ok, the local digi is broadcasting the following
"VK1RGI-1>APDW15:;146.95 ? *111111z3531.60S/14846.30ErT091 -060 2mRPT” "VK1RGI-1>APDW15:;146.90 ? *111111z3523.10S/14848.80ErT091 -060 2mRPT”
which as far as I can see is right?
What it is showing on the map are a heap of stations, none of which are repeaters. ?There is nothing showing in the table though.
? 
Any ideas?
Carl.
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On 25 Jan 2024, at 11:39?pm, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:
The format was defined by Bob Bruninga WB4APR (SK) many moons ago, and is on his website at Hmmm, I’ve been looking at that page for 2 days and only just realised the “Frequency Objects from Digipeaters” bit is the bit I want. <sigh> Thanks, Carl.
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The format was defined by Bob Bruninga WB4APR (SK) many moons ago, and is on his website at The Kenwood radios are very picky about the format. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Carl Makin <carl@...> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 7:00 AM HiAndrew, On 25 Jan 2024, at 10:48?pm, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:
Drat! Another bug, caused by a fix for a plugin interoperation bug a few builds ago.
Thankfully, it doesn't keep the plugins from working, it just makes them look strange
in the plugin installation window. I have a fix for it, which will appear in the next build. Nice. Thanks for the hard work. On a related note, none of the repeaters in this area show up on the repeater finder plugin even though nearly all have objects being displayed. Can you point me to a reasonable document on what format the object should be so they appear? Carl.
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HiAndrew, On 25 Jan 2024, at 10:48?pm, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:
Drat! Another bug, caused by a fix for a plugin interoperation bug a few builds ago. Thankfully, it doesn't keep the plugins from working, it just makes them look strange in the plugin installation window. I have a fix for it, which will appear in the next build. Nice. Thanks for the hard work. On a related note, none of the repeaters in this area show up on the repeater finder plugin even though nearly all have objects being displayed. Can you point me to a reasonable document on what format the object should be so they appear? Carl.
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Drat! Another bug, caused by a fix for a plugin interoperation bug a few builds ago. Thankfully, it doesn't keep the plugins from working, it just makes them look strange in the plugin installation window. I have a fix for it, which will appear in the next build. Keep those cards and bug reports coming! :-) And, in the bug reports, don't forget to mention which build of YAAC, what operating system version and CPU, and what build and vendor of Java you are using. Those points matter when reporting a bug, because it may be peculiar to your environment. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Carl Makin <carl@...> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 8:49 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Repeater Finder NOOB Hi Andrew, On 25 Jan 2024, at 12:42?pm, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:
How long did you wait for the list to populate? The entries on the repeater list come from APRS Objects transmitted by other stations where said Object describe a repeater. If you don't see anything after half an hour, there's probably no repeater objects in your vicinity. I’ve got the repeaterfinder plugin installed, v0.15 (as listed in the terminal on startup), but the installed plugins dialog keeps insisting it’s v0.1 and asking to upgrade it. Carl.
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Hi Andrew, On 25 Jan 2024, at 12:42?pm, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:
How long did you wait for the list to populate? The entries on the repeater list come from APRS Objects transmitted by other stations where said Object describe a repeater. If you don't see anything after half an hour, there's probably no repeater objects in your vicinity. I’ve got the repeaterfinder plugin installed, v0.15 (as listed in the terminal on startup), but the installed plugins dialog keeps insisting it’s v0.1 and asking to upgrade it. Carl.
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How long did you wait for the list to populate? The entries on the repeater list come from APRS Objects transmitted by other stations where said Object describe a repeater. If you don't see anything after half an hour, there's probably no repeater objects in your vicinity. YAAC can handle a very large APRS-IS feed if your computer is fast enough and allocates enough heap to the Java heap (at least a gigabyte). I routinely test it with the unfiltered feed on port 10152, which is the entire planet. So you could use a large radius on a r/lat/lon/range filter for your APRS-IS connection to get more stations. Pick a center point that's around a moderately large city (not so large as to have zoning ordinances preventing amateur repeater towers) and see what you find. ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Jeff <KO4NCC@...> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 8:33 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [yaac-users] Repeater Finder NOOB Loaded the repeater finder plug in and set it to Manual Tuning with several of he categories (2m, 70cm, DStar, etc) selected and then View > Nearby Repeaters and didn't come up with any listing. I'm concluding it's because there are no repeaters in my area with APRS Beacons. Can someone give me some coordinates I can plug in to see it function? 73 de KO4NCC Jeff
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Loaded the repeater finder plug in and set it to Manual Tuning with several of he categories (2m, 70cm, DStar, etc) selected and then View > Nearby Repeaters and didn't come up with any listing.? I'm concluding it's because there are no repeaters in my area with APRS Beacons. Can someone give me some coordinates I can plug in to see it function?
73 de KO4NCC Jeff
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Thanks Andrew the Dynamic Objects plugin did the trick.
73 KO4NCC
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URGENT! next build#194 of YAAC, created 2024-Jan-21
Greetings, all.
If you upgraded to build#193, please upgrade immediately to build #194. I introduced a stupid typo that breaks being able to send any APRS text messages or local objects, and now have it fixed, along with more testing to avoid such bugs in the future.
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next beta build#194 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2024-Jan-21
downloadable from
or
changes and updates include:
1. fix stupid typo introduced in previous build that breaks
APRS text message transmitting.
2. add more unit tests to catch recurrences of the above issue.
3. try to prevent hangs in marineports plugin unit tests.
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Re: next build#193 of YAAC, created 2024-Jan-20
Hi Keith, On 21 Jan 2024, at 2:40?pm, Keith Kaiser <wa0tjt@...> wrote:
Well, now I have a very red face. I launched YAAC 1.0-beta193(20-Jan-2024) to collect the requested data and now it’s coming up and looks good. In trying to solve my own issues today I did reload Java this is now what I have; logdir % java -version openjdk version "16.0.1" 2021-04-20 OpenJDK Runtime Environment AdoptOpenJDK-16.0.1+9 (build 16.0.1+9) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM AdoptOpenJDK-16.0.1+9 (build 16.0.1+9, mixed mode, sharing) logdir %?
But something is niggling at my brain saying this doesn’t seem right, what say you?
My only worry would be whether it’s the aarch64 (Arm) version or the x64 version. I can’t seen an ARM release for v16 of the JDK on the ?website. ?It looks like they only started with the ARM builds as of v17. ?If that’s the case then you’re running it under Rosetta 2 (x64 emulation), which would slow it down.
I would uninstall the v16 jdk and install the v17 aarch64 version. ?I’d stay away from the v21-LTS for the moment, there seem to be some breaking changes in that version.
Carl, vk1kcm.
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Re: next build#193 of YAAC, created 2024-Jan-20
Well, now I have a very red face. I launched YAAC 1.0-beta193(20-Jan-2024) to collect the requested data and now it’s coming up and looks good. In trying to solve my own issues today I did reload Java this is now what I have; logdir % java -version
openjdk version "16.0.1" 2021-04-20
OpenJDK Runtime Environment AdoptOpenJDK-16.0.1+9 (build 16.0.1+9)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM AdoptOpenJDK-16.0.1+9 (build 16.0.1+9, mixed mode, sharing)
logdir %?
But something is niggling at my brain saying this doesn’t seem right, what say you?
Keith, WA0?TJT Author: https://net-control.us
ARRL ARES?Communicator?Level 2, AEC for?Platte Co. MO KCHEART Radio Operator - St. Lukes Barry Road Hospital
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On Jan 20, 2024, at 9:18?PM, Carl Makin <carl@...> wrote:
Hi Keith, On 21 Jan 2024, at 3:00?am, Keith Kaiser <wa0tjt@...> wrote:
The last two versions of YAAC will not open properly on a M1 MacBook Air. The window opens but nothing is in it, the menu bar is empty. I have plenty of RAM, and I’ve been using YAAC for years. Whats up?
I’m running a M1 Max MacBook Pro on the latest Sonoma and am having no issues. ?The current version (and the few previous) all run fine. ?As Andrew asks, can you tell us what version of Java you are using and launch it in a terminal session (or send us the relevant parts of the logdir/YAAC.out log). FYI I’m using the Bellsoft Liberica Full JDK v20.0.2 (needed for SDRTrunk). Carl, vk1kcm.
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Re: next build#193 of YAAC, created 2024-Jan-20
Hi Keith, On 21 Jan 2024, at 3:00?am, Keith Kaiser <wa0tjt@...> wrote:
The last two versions of YAAC will not open properly on a M1 MacBook Air. The window opens but nothing is in it, the menu bar is empty. I have plenty of RAM, and I’ve been using YAAC for years. Whats up? I’m running a M1 Max MacBook Pro on the latest Sonoma and am having no issues. The current version (and the few previous) all run fine. As Andrew asks, can you tell us what version of Java you are using and launch it in a terminal session (or send us the relevant parts of the logdir/YAAC.out log). FYI I’m using the Bellsoft Liberica Full JDK v20.0.2 (needed for SDRTrunk). Carl, vk1kcm.
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Re: next build#193 of YAAC, created 2024-Jan-20
Thanks for the update Andrew, everything is working perfectly with AIS-Catcher! Best de N2UGS 
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Re: next build#193 of YAAC, created 2024-Jan-20
Actually, if you can send me that startup log, that would help immensely in debugging the problem, since I don't have a copy of your hardware to replicate it. You can find the log in your log directory in the file YAAC.out. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2024 11:13 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] next build#193 of YAAC, created 2024-Jan-20 I have no idea. I just upgraded my Mac (x86, alas) on Sonoma 14.2.1, and YAAC ran fine. All I can think of is that you have a security setting in Mac OS X that is preventing YAAC from opening some of the data files. Have you tried running YAAC from a Terminal window, so you can see the progress and error messages it spews out? Those messages would probably tell why you're having the problem (such as an IOException for permission reasons). Also, what version and vendor of the Java runtime are you using? Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Keith Kaiser <wa0tjt@...> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2024 11:00 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] next build#193 of YAAC, created 2024-Jan-20 The last two versions of YAAC will not open properly on a M1 MacBook Air. The window opens but nothing is in it, the menu bar is empty. I have plenty of RAM, and I’ve been using YAAC for years. Whats up? Keith, WA0?TJT Author: ARRL ARES Communicator Level 2, AEC for Platte Co. MO KCHEART Radio Operator - St. Lukes Barry Road Hospital On Jan 19, 2024, at 11:24?PM, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote: next beta build#193 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2024-Jan-20 downloadable from or changes and updates include: 1. write JUnit unit test cases that will be executed when using Maven as the build tool. This covers part of core YAAC and the AISdecoder and marineports plugins. 2. make changes in core YAAC code to permit unit tests to run. 3. fix bug in packet creation where AX.25 frames didn't have the last digipeater address marked with the "last" bit as required by the AX.25 protocol specification. 4. fix formatting error in NMEA-0183 format GPS logger. 5. fix getting access to Help files in a newly-installed plugin. 6. minor non-functional code cleanup in ADS-B decoder plugin. 7. fix AIS decoder to properly support AIS-Catcher as a data source, and add JUnit tests to verify it. 8. fix marineports plugin to remove unwanted check for port callsign and to collect port throughput statistics, and add JUnit test cases to verify correct operation.
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Re: next build#193 of YAAC, created 2024-Jan-20
I have no idea. I just upgraded my Mac (x86, alas) on Sonoma 14.2.1, and YAAC ran fine. All I can think of is that you have a security setting in Mac OS X that is preventing YAAC from opening some of the data files. Have you tried running YAAC from a Terminal window, so you can see the progress and error messages it spews out? Those messages would probably tell why you're having the problem (such as an IOException for permission reasons). Also, what version and vendor of the Java runtime are you using? Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Keith Kaiser <wa0tjt@...> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2024 11:00 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] next build#193 of YAAC, created 2024-Jan-20 The last two versions of YAAC will not open properly on a M1 MacBook Air. The window opens but nothing is in it, the menu bar is empty. I have plenty of RAM, and I’ve been using YAAC for years. Whats up? Keith, WA0?TJT Author: ARRL ARES Communicator Level 2, AEC for Platte Co. MO KCHEART Radio Operator - St. Lukes Barry Road Hospital On Jan 19, 2024, at 11:24?PM, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote: next beta build#193 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2024-Jan-20 downloadable from or changes and updates include: 1. write JUnit unit test cases that will be executed when using Maven as the build tool. This covers part of core YAAC and the AISdecoder and marineports plugins. 2. make changes in core YAAC code to permit unit tests to run. 3. fix bug in packet creation where AX.25 frames didn't have the last digipeater address marked with the "last" bit as required by the AX.25 protocol specification. 4. fix formatting error in NMEA-0183 format GPS logger. 5. fix getting access to Help files in a newly-installed plugin. 6. minor non-functional code cleanup in ADS-B decoder plugin. 7. fix AIS decoder to properly support AIS-Catcher as a data source, and add JUnit tests to verify it. 8. fix marineports plugin to remove unwanted check for port callsign and to collect port throughput statistics, and add JUnit test cases to verify correct operation.
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Re: next build#193 of YAAC, created 2024-Jan-20
FWIW, may be not related, but I have been seeing a lot of complaints recently from users of MacBooks that various ham applications are not working correctly. I'm wondering if there has been some recent update to the OS that does something different to files.
Just a thought.
Michael WA7SKG
Keith Kaiser wrote on 1/20/24 8:00 AM:
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The last two versions of YAAC will not open properly on a M1 MacBook Air. The window opens but nothing is in it, the menu bar is empty. I have plenty of RAM, and I’ve been using YAAC for years. Whats up?
Keith, WA0?TJT
Author:
ARRL ARES?Communicator?Level 2, AEC for?Platte Co. MO
KCHEART Radio Operator - St. Lukes Barry Road Hospital
On Jan 19, 2024, at 11:24?PM, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:
next beta build#193 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2024-Jan-20
downloadable from
??????????????or
changes and updates include:
1. write JUnit unit test cases that will be executed when using Maven
???as the build tool. This covers part of core YAAC and the AISdecoder
???and marineports plugins.
2. make changes in core YAAC code to permit unit tests to run.
3. fix bug in packet creation where AX.25 frames didn't have the last
???digipeater address marked with the "last" bit as required by the AX.25
???protocol specification.
4. fix formatting error in NMEA-0183 format GPS logger.
5. fix getting access to Help files in a newly-installed plugin.
6. minor non-functional code cleanup in ADS-B decoder plugin.
7. fix AIS decoder to properly support AIS-Catcher as a data source,
???and add JUnit tests to verify it.
8. fix marineports plugin to remove unwanted check for port callsign
???and to collect port throughput statistics, and add JUnit test cases
???to verify correct operation.
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Re: next build#193 of YAAC, created 2024-Jan-20
The last two versions of YAAC will not open properly on a M1 MacBook Air. The window opens but nothing is in it, the menu bar is empty. I have plenty of RAM, and I’ve been using YAAC for years. Whats up?
Keith, WA0?TJT Author: https://net-control.us
ARRL ARES?Communicator?Level 2, AEC for?Platte Co. MO KCHEART Radio Operator - St. Lukes Barry Road Hospital
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On Jan 19, 2024, at 11:24?PM, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:
next beta build#193 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2024-Jan-20
downloadable from https://www.ka2ddo.org/ka2ddo/YAAC.html
??????????????or https://sourceforge.net/p/yetanotheraprsc
changes and updates include:
1. write JUnit unit test cases that will be executed when using Maven
???as the build tool. This covers part of core YAAC and the AISdecoder
???and marineports plugins.
2. make changes in core YAAC code to permit unit tests to run.
3. fix bug in packet creation where AX.25 frames didn't have the last
???digipeater address marked with the "last" bit as required by the AX.25
???protocol specification.
4. fix formatting error in NMEA-0183 format GPS logger.
5. fix getting access to Help files in a newly-installed plugin.
6. minor non-functional code cleanup in ADS-B decoder plugin.
7. fix AIS decoder to properly support AIS-Catcher as a data source,
???and add JUnit tests to verify it.
8. fix marineports plugin to remove unwanted check for port callsign
???and to collect port throughput statistics, and add JUnit test cases
???to verify correct operation.
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Jeff
Jeremy N2UGS
Michael WA7SKG