Re: Beacon and Status message timing
Hi Andrew ? Maybe I have some settings wrong.? On the digipeat tab I have WIDE2-2 checked in aliases for digipeating and WIDE2-2 as selected digipeat path.? Under Beacon I have WIDE2-2 as selected digipeat path and the same thing under the Status tab.? Under the Ports tab I have WIDE 2-2? enable checked.? Do these settings sound right or do I have to change something?? I think WIDE2-2 is the best digipeat path to use. ? Joe VA3JLF ? ? ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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From: Andrew P.Sent: August 3, 2020 10:05 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Beacon and Status message timing ? No, my concern is that your beacon was using the proportional pathing of ? -- direct -- ? WIDE1-1, ? WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 which, if your nearest I-gate still required a digipeat hop, would cause all the -- direct -- (no digpeat aliases)? beacon packets to not make it to the I-gate. ? Similarly, if there are no WIDE1-1 fill-in digis, the packets could have been dropped if the local WIDE2 digis wouldn't also accept WIDE1. ? Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ? ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joseph LaFerla <joe@...> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 7:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Beacon and Status message timing ? Hi Andrew ? The digi specs are as follows: ? Status message???????? WIDE2-2 with a text of FN13kw CumulusMX on a Raspberry Pi 3 Beacon?????????????????????????? WIDE2-2 with a text of 21 Fennell Crescent, Cherry Valley WX Station ? Would you suggest changing one to WIDE2-1?? ? Thanks for your help. ? Joe VA3JLF ? ? Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ? From: Andrew P.<mailto:andrewemt@...> Sent: August 3, 2020 5:18 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Beacon and Status message timing ? That's an interesting observation. What are the digipeater specifications for your beacon versus your status? If you can't reach an I-gate without being digipeated, then beacon transmissions without sufficient digipeat aliases (such as WIDE2-2) might not ever get digipeated, whereas if your status only uses WIDE2-2, it would be digipeated all the time. ? What are your beacon and status settings, especially regarding digipeat aliases (possibly using proportional pathing)? ? Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ? ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joseph LaFerla <joe@...> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Beacon and Status message timing ? Hi Andrew ? Do you have further thoughts on this?? Are my settings correct?? The issue seems to be that the status messages get digipeated more than the beacon.because yaac is indeed making the transmissions as far as I can see. ? Joe VA3JLF ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Re: Sending Winlink messages
Can you send your AX25rcvd*.csv file from when you tried to link? Apparently, the Winlink website is not quite accurate about the details of the login message format. I would like to see exactly what packet format you received.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Eric H. Christensen via groups.io" <eric@...> Date: 8/3/20 17:54 (GMT-05:00) To: [email protected]Subject: [yaac-users] Sending Winlink messages When I try to send an email via Winlink using the Message -> Send E-Mail function, it seems like the LOGIN feature isn't working. I see my station sending LOGIN to WLNK-1, and a response from WLNK-1 saying Login [246]: but YAAC isn't responding to that request. Thoughts? 73, Eric WG3K
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Re: Sending Winlink messages
Not sure the full functions are there.? Winlink does require?a password.? Where can we enter such???
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 5:54 PM Eric H. Christensen via <eric= [email protected]> wrote: When I try to send an email via Winlink using the Message -> Send E-Mail function, it seems like the LOGIN feature isn't working.
I see my station sending LOGIN to WLNK-1, and a response from WLNK-1 saying Login [246]: but YAAC isn't responding to that request.
Thoughts?
73,
Eric WG3K
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Re: new beta build#156 of YAAC, created 2020-Jul-23
"Hi, I'd like to hear a TCP joke.""Hello, would you like to hear a TCP joke?""Yes, I'd like to hear a TCP joke.""OK, I'll tell you a TCP joke.""Ok, I will hear a TCP joke.""Are you ready to hear a TCP joke?""Yes, I am ready to hear a TCP joke."
From: "Ronny Julian" <k4rjjradio@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:20:19 PM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] new beta build#156 of YAAC, created 2020-Jul-23
Love a good protocol joke!? Just toss it out there!
Two UDP packets walk into a bar... Two UDP packets walk into a bar...
From: "Andrew P." <andrewemt@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 3:39:38 PM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] new beta build#156 of YAAC, created 2020-Jul-23
Already got the joke (from someone else). And land-line UDP is probably more reliable than radio AX.25.
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Re: Beacon and Status message timing
No, my concern is that your beacon was using the proportional pathing of -- direct -- WIDE1-1, WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 which, if your nearest I-gate still required a digipeat hop, would cause all the -- direct -- (no digpeat aliases) beacon packets to not make it to the I-gate. Similarly, if there are no WIDE1-1 fill-in digis, the packets could have been dropped if the local WIDE2 digis wouldn't also accept WIDE1. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Joseph LaFerla <joe@...> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 7:33 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Beacon and Status message timing Hi Andrew The digi specs are as follows: Status message WIDE2-2 with a text of FN13kw CumulusMX on a Raspberry Pi 3 Beacon WIDE2-2 with a text of 21 Fennell Crescent, Cherry Valley WX Station Would you suggest changing one to WIDE2-1?? Thanks for your help. Joe VA3JLF Sent from Mail<> for Windows 10 From: Andrew P.<mailto:andrewemt@...> Sent: August 3, 2020 5:18 PM To: [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Beacon and Status message timing That's an interesting observation. What are the digipeater specifications for your beacon versus your status? If you can't reach an I-gate without being digipeated, then beacon transmissions without sufficient digipeat aliases (such as WIDE2-2) might not ever get digipeated, whereas if your status only uses WIDE2-2, it would be digipeated all the time. What are your beacon and status settings, especially regarding digipeat aliases (possibly using proportional pathing)? Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Joseph LaFerla <joe@...> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:11 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Beacon and Status message timing Hi Andrew Do you have further thoughts on this? Are my settings correct? The issue seems to be that the status messages get digipeated more than the beacon.because yaac is indeed making the transmissions as far as I can see. Joe VA3JLF
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Re: Beacon and Status message timing
Hi Andrew ? The digi specs are as follows: ? Status message????? ???WIDE2-2 with a text of FN13kw CumulusMX on a Raspberry Pi 3 Beacon???????????????? ????????? WIDE2-2 with a text of 21 Fennell Crescent, Cherry Valley WX Station ? Would you suggest changing one to WIDE2-1?? ? Thanks for your help. ? Joe VA3JLF ? ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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From: Andrew P.Sent: August 3, 2020 5:18 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Beacon and Status message timing ? That's an interesting observation. What are the digipeater specifications for your beacon versus your status? If you can't reach an I-gate without being digipeated, then beacon transmissions without sufficient digipeat aliases (such as WIDE2-2) might not ever get digipeated, whereas if your status only uses WIDE2-2, it would be digipeated all the time. ? What are your beacon and status settings, especially regarding digipeat aliases (possibly using proportional pathing)? ? Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ? ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joseph LaFerla <joe@...> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Beacon and Status message timing ? Hi Andrew ? Do you have further thoughts on this?? Are my settings correct?? The issue seems to be that the status messages get digipeated more than the beacon.because yaac is indeed making the transmissions as far as I can see. ? Joe VA3JLF ? ? ? ?
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Re: new beta build#156 of YAAC, created 2020-Jul-23
Love a good protocol joke!? Just toss it out there!
Two UDP packets walk into a bar... Two UDP packets walk into a bar...
From: "Andrew P." <andrewemt@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 3:39:38 PM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] new beta build#156 of YAAC, created 2020-Jul-23
Already got the joke (from someone else). And land-line UDP is probably more reliable than radio AX.25.
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When I try to send an email via Winlink using the Message -> Send E-Mail function, it seems like the LOGIN feature isn't working.
I see my station sending LOGIN to WLNK-1, and a response from WLNK-1 saying Login [246]: but YAAC isn't responding to that request.
Thoughts?
73,
Eric WG3K
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Re: Beacon and Status message timing
That's an interesting observation. What are the digipeater specifications for your beacon versus your status? If you can't reach an I-gate without being digipeated, then beacon transmissions without sufficient digipeat aliases (such as WIDE2-2) might not ever get digipeated, whereas if your status only uses WIDE2-2, it would be digipeated all the time. What are your beacon and status settings, especially regarding digipeat aliases (possibly using proportional pathing)? Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Joseph LaFerla <joe@...> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:11 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Beacon and Status message timing Hi Andrew Do you have further thoughts on this? Are my settings correct? The issue seems to be that the status messages get digipeated more than the beacon.because yaac is indeed making the transmissions as far as I can see. Joe VA3JLF
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Re: new beta build#156 of YAAC, created 2020-Jul-23
Two UDP packets walk into a bar... Two UDP packets walk into a bar...
From: "Andrew P." <andrewemt@...>
To: "yaac-users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 3:39:38 PM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] new beta build#156 of YAAC, created 2020-Jul-23
Already got the joke (from someone else). And land-line UDP is probably more reliable than radio AX.25.
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Re: Beacon and Status message timing
Hi Andrew
Do you have further thoughts on this?? Are my settings correct?? The issue seems to be that the status messages get digipeated more than the beacon.because yaac is indeed making the transmissions as far as I can see.
Joe VA3JLF
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
Hmmm... indeed, you haven't made much progress on the download.
Can you replicate this and then after it hangs for more than 10 minutes (or if it times out by them), send me the YAAC.out file from your YAAC log directory? The reason I say to wait 10 minutes is for standard TCP/IP timeout to occur, in case that is the cause, so either way I get an accurate error message.
The other question is: what exact date and time did you do this? I was upgrading my server around when you sent the original email. So were you in the middle of a download when I shut the server down for upgrade? I always check before I reboot the system, but it doesn't mean you didn't slip in between my check and when the shutdown script turns off networking.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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Re: new beta build#156 of YAAC, created 2020-Jul-23
Already got the joke (from someone else). And land-line UDP is probably more reliable than radio AX.25.
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
I am the one Chris was referring to.
I am trying to download 100 kms radius.
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here is a copy of my captured screen...? ?not really an error, it just will not proceed to download
can I download via windows, then copy files to a raspberry folder
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Re: new beta build#156 of YAAC, created 2020-Jul-23
3. add support for submit-only UDP port to APRS-IS servers. I could tell you a joke about UDP but you might not get.
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Re: Beacon and Status message timing
Hi Andrew ? My setup is very simple.? I have one beacon that I keep the default name for (default).? The position is manually entered (no gps).? Beacon type is Position.? I have free text.? The initial rate is 60, decay ratio 2 and slow repeat rate 1800.? The selected digipeat paths in proportional path order are WIDE2-1 first and WIDE2-2 second, so I assume WIDE2-1 would be the first priority followed by WIDE2-2.? (Now that I think of it, should this only be WIDE2-2?)? The status beacon is set up the same way with WIDE2-1 in the first position followed by WIDE2-2.? The inital repeat rate is 60, decay ratio 2 and stable repeat rate 1500. ? There is not a lot of radio traffic in my area.? There are very few and I am not using time slotting.? I guess I’ll try using WIDE2-2 for both beacons and see if it makes any difference. ? Joe ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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From: Andrew P.Sent: July 31, 2020 7:24 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Beacon and Status message timing ? Hi, Joseph. ? That's very strange behavior of the I-gates in your area, keeping your status messages and discarding your positions. What exactly are the settings for your position beacon? Mic-E or standard or compressed text position format? Do you have a free-text comment appended to the beacon? What are the initial and slow rates for your beacon and your status? How many different beacons do you have (only the default one, or additional ones)? ? The other question is, how many transmit-only beacons are in your area (as in, jamming your position packets)? Are you using time-slotting (not recommended unless you're on a non-standard frequency and your time slots are coordinated with all other stations on the frequency)? ? Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ? ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Joseph LaFerla <joe@...> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 2:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] Beacon and Status message timing ? Hi Andrew ? I have my yaac beta 156 working well transmitting on the local rf network.? The aprs-is port is disabled.? However I seem to have a problem with the timing of beacon and status messages.? In my configuration I have set the beacon message with a slow repeat rate of 900 seconds and the status message with 1500.? I also monitor aprs.fi and findu.com to see how both are being received.?? I am attaching a file with output since midnight tonight.? You can see that the beacons and status messages received from aprs.fi are very oddly spaced and, particularly at the end of the extract, there are 8 status messages in a row with no beacons in between.? Since only beacons have location information, findu.com does not record the status messages as valid and does not update its records.? Findu.com currently reports the last report received over 7 hours ago.? My hope is that my beacon and status message timing can be set so that they would roughly alternate so that both aprs.fi and findu.com are synchronized. ? I would point out that when I set yaac instead to transmit directly to the aprs-is network via the internet and disable the rf network, aprs.fi? and findu.com are perfectly synchronized. ? I hope I have explained clearly what my issue is and that there is some solution.? Thanks in advance and for a wonderful program that you are constantly improving and expanding.? You are a great service to the amateur community, Andrew.? Please let me know if you have any questions. ? Joe VA3JLF ? ? ? ? ?
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Re: Beacon and Status message timing
Hi, Joseph. That's very strange behavior of the I-gates in your area, keeping your status messages and discarding your positions. What exactly are the settings for your position beacon? Mic-E or standard or compressed text position format? Do you have a free-text comment appended to the beacon? What are the initial and slow rates for your beacon and your status? How many different beacons do you have (only the default one, or additional ones)? The other question is, how many transmit-only beacons are in your area (as in, jamming your position packets)? Are you using time-slotting (not recommended unless you're on a non-standard frequency and your time slots are coordinated with all other stations on the frequency)? Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Joseph LaFerla <joe@...> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 2:03 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [yaac-users] Beacon and Status message timing Hi Andrew I have my yaac beta 156 working well transmitting on the local rf network. The aprs-is port is disabled. However I seem to have a problem with the timing of beacon and status messages. In my configuration I have set the beacon message with a slow repeat rate of 900 seconds and the status message with 1500. I also monitor aprs.fi and findu.com to see how both are being received. I am attaching a file with output since midnight tonight. You can see that the beacons and status messages received from aprs.fi are very oddly spaced and, particularly at the end of the extract, there are 8 status messages in a row with no beacons in between. Since only beacons have location information, findu.com does not record the status messages as valid and does not update its records. Findu.com currently reports the last report received over 7 hours ago. My hope is that my beacon and status message timing can be set so that they would roughly alternate so that both aprs.fi and findu.com are synchronized. I would point out that when I set yaac instead to transmit directly to the aprs-is network via the internet and disable the rf network, aprs.fi and findu.com are perfectly synchronized. I hope I have explained clearly what my issue is and that there is some solution. Thanks in advance and for a wonderful program that you are constantly improving and expanding. You are a great service to the amateur community, Andrew. Please let me know if you have any questions. Joe VA3JLF
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Beacon and Status message timing
Hi Andrew ? I have my yaac beta 156 working well transmitting on the local rf network.? The aprs-is port is disabled.? However I seem to have a problem with the timing of beacon and status messages.? In my configuration I have set the beacon message with a slow repeat rate of 900 seconds and the status message with 1500.? I also monitor aprs.fi and findu.com to see how both are being received.? ?I am attaching a file with output since midnight tonight.? You can see that the beacons and status messages received from aprs.fi are very oddly spaced and, particularly at the end of the extract, there are 8 status messages in a row with no beacons in between.? Since only beacons have location information, findu.com does not record the status messages as valid and does not update its records.? Findu.com currently reports the last report received over 7 hours ago. ?My hope is that my beacon and status message timing can be set so that they would roughly alternate so that both aprs.fi and findu.com are synchronized. ? I would point out that when I set yaac instead to transmit directly to the aprs-is network via the internet and disable the rf network, aprs.fi? and findu.com are perfectly synchronized. ? I hope I have explained clearly what my issue is and that there is some solution.? Thanks in advance and for a wonderful program that you are constantly improving and expanding.? You are a great service to the amateur community, Andrew.? Please let me know if you have any questions. ? Joe VA3JLF ?
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
Are you trying to download maps, or import them from a .pbf file? What is the exact text of the error message? Copy-and-paste, please. A Raspberry Pi is short on main memory by about an order of magnitude to be able to import a raw OpenStreetMap vector file. Adding swap space won't help; you'll just burn up your swap drive and melt the CPU. The importer logic needs at least 2 gigabytes of real heap memory to be able to handle an OpenStreetMap .pbf file of any significant size. You need to get the pre-imported files I make available on my website with the File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles menu choice. If you were downloading pre-imported tile files, how many of them were you importing? i.e., how many miles/kilometers of radius were you using? If you have a very fast Internet connection, it is theoretically possible for you to overload the Java virtual machine by opening the next tile file faster than the Java garbage collector can clean up after downloading the previous file. Let me know what further information you have on the problem. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Chris Pitre <ve3ctp@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 8:17 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps anyone else encounter this, what did they do to fix the issue?
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java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
anyone else encounter this, what did they do to fix the issue?
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Danny K5CG
