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Re: YAAC and AIS-Catcher?

 

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It¡¯s a conspiracy - I blame Big Geography?


On Apr 29, 2024, at 05:13, Jeremy N2UGS via groups.io <jmedinac@...> wrote:

?This is what I'm seeing...

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Best

Jeremy

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Cheers and 73 - Jon N7UV


Re: YAAC and AIS-Catcher?

 

This is what I'm seeing...



Best

Jeremy


Re: ADS-B on YAAC

 

Hi Andrew -

View>Layers>Show age was and remains on. The time since last position update is always displayed in small text below the main label. However, the value rarely changes.?

If I do Locate>(some a/c callsign)>OK then for the time during which the locate arrows are flashing all the on-map and in-range a/c icons on the screen update every second or so, consistent with my ADS-B browser window display. Once the arrows stop flashing, everything goes back to static.

And by static, I mean irregular but significant durations of time (120 sec? More?) pass between map updates. I assume that's either some process YAAC is doing for its own reasons or perhaps since I tell the map to stay centered on me. Even when I'm parked, the GPS dithers a bit, maybe it's enough to force a map re-center. But the a/c generally move several miles during that time.

Something else that would be nice would be to be able to set the persistence since last position update. Right now I think the ADS-B items may persist as long as any other thing, in most ADS-B instantiations 50-60 seconds without an update tosses the object off the list.

Oh, hey, one more item. While I can change the displayed font size, which is helpful especially on my mobile display, is there a way to bold the icon text? The text line widths are about the same as the background map lines and they all blend together. Maybe bolding would help me.?

I look forward to any enhancements!
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Cheers and 73 - Jon N7UV


Re: ADS-B on YAAC

 

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Hmmm....? Sounds like I forgot to refresh the map when the position of an ADS-B station changes its position.

You can work around this by checking the menu choice View->Map Layers->Show Age. This adds a small-font display of how long since the last update for each station or object. Since that has to be updated regularly, that should cause the station positions to be updated more frequently.

Hope this helps until I can get the fix out.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jon Adams
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2024 12:49:02 PM

Greetings Andrew -

Thanks for integrating an ADS-B viewer into YAAC. I run an ADS-B receiver in the truck, and especially when I'm out in the middle of nowhere it's nice to be able to ID aircraft that happen by. I was using the browser interface to my ADS-B program running on an RPi on the truck network, but now that I have YAAC going I can watch there as well!

YAAC is running on a W11 Pro box in the truck, connected to the same truck network.

I've been noticing that a/c icons sometimes rarely move on the map unless I rescale the map or refresh it in some way. For instance, SWA5641 is moving past me at about 20ft and the "Monitored Aircraft" list shows the lat/lon updating once a second or so, but the icon on the map rarely if ever moves, and it always shows a staleness of "0s". That's just one example, there are dozens on the list many moving quickly, but letter to nothing moves on the map. Sometimes, maybe, they update quickly (like if I do a locate).

I did a search for ads-b related stuff on this reflector but didn't see anything about tweaking map update rates. Could it be that YAAC is just overwhelmed? I'm seeing over 350 a/c right now, according to the list.
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Cheers and 73 - Jon N7UV



Re: To Andrew-Please consider

 

CATS?

On 4/28/24 13:07, Jon Adams wrote:
CATS looks interesting to me as well. I've put myself on the list to be notified when some hardware is available on their store. Hopefully in the next week or two.
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Cheers and 73 - Jon N7UV


Re: To Andrew-Please consider

 

CATS looks interesting to me as well. I've put myself on the list to be notified when some hardware is available on their store. Hopefully in the next week or two.
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Cheers and 73 - Jon N7UV


ADS-B on YAAC

 
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Greetings Andrew -

Thanks for integrating an ADS-B viewer into YAAC. I run an ADS-B receiver in the truck, and especially when I'm out in the middle of nowhere it's nice to be able to ID aircraft that happen by. I was using the browser interface to my ADS-B program running on an RPi on the truck network, but now that I have YAAC going I can watch there as well!

YAAC is running on a W11 Pro box in the truck, connected to the same truck network.

I've been noticing that a/c icons sometimes rarely move on the map unless I rescale the map or refresh it in some way. For instance, SWA5641 is moving past me at about 20ft and the "Monitored Aircraft" list shows the lat/lon updating once a second or so, but the icon on the map rarely if ever moves, and it always shows a staleness of "0s". That's just one example, there are dozens on the list many moving quickly, but letter to nothing moves on the map. Sometimes, maybe, they update quickly (like if I do a locate).

I did a search for ads-b related stuff on this reflector but didn't see anything about tweaking map update rates. Could it be that YAAC is just overwhelmed? I'm seeing over 350 a/c right now, according to the list.
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Cheers and 73 - Jon N7UV


Re: YAAC and AIS-Catcher?

 

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Hmmm... that's odd. Are the AIS stations remaining on the map and the Station/Object List, or only on the Vessel list?

I do need to tweak the Vessel list so it supports the Clear Real-time Table menu option.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jeremy N2UGS <jmedinac@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2024 5:06:56 PM

Hi Andrew!

The AIS plug-in has been working great, thank you for the updates. I did notice though that when an AIS object is spotted and tracked the object will show for days after no packets have been received. Is there a way to clear out the stations after no packets have been received, after a certain inactive duration??

Best

Jeremy


Re: YAAC and AIS-Catcher?

 

Hi Andrew!

The AIS plug-in has been working great, thank you for the updates. I did notice though that when an AIS object is spotted and tracked the object will show for days after no packets have been received. Is there a way to clear out the stations after no packets have been received, after a certain inactive duration??

Best

Jeremy


Re: Sound Plugin Stopping

 

Apparently it was a transient glitch. I ran for a week receiving 4+
messages every day, no problems, followed by a week with no messages
received, then checked into APRS Thursday and it sounded for every
message. I guess it is okay now.

The soundcard is on the motherboard, not removable. I've only got a
couple alerts set up, primarily incoming messages.

Close it out as a non-issue.

Thanks,
Michael WA7SKG



Andrew P. wrote on 4/25/24 10:54 AM:

I've had running for 10 straight days now and it's still playing the
.wav file successfully. I don't think I can replicate the problem.

Per chance, is your plugin-selected sound card on USB, and did it get
unplugged at any point? I don't think YAAC would deal well with a
disappearing sound card.

Also, how many different sound files were you using, and did you change
any of them during the run?

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael
WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
*Sent:* Monday, April 15, 2024 12:19:14 PM

It doesn't seem to matter the number of messages. I sent a bunch of test
messages and so far it is still working. I restarted last Thursday.
We'll see what happens this Thursday. It's only been a couple weeks, so
maybe it was just some glitch and no longer happening.

Michael WA7SKG

Andrew P. wrote on 4/14/24 2:04 PM:
I can't be certain, but I am guessing you are exceeding your open file
quota by re-opening the same .wav file without ever closing it. As such,
eventually YAAC would no longer be open the file. This would also
interfere in YAAC logging, as it doesn't keep the log files open
constantly, but only opens them for burst writes of the last few minutes
backlog.

Alas, I didn't run YAAC for days after implementing the fix, so I didn't
notice any quota leak.

I will look into it the next time I can work on YAAC.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG
<wa7skg@...>
*From:*
Sunday, April 14, 2024 3:30:00 PM
*Sent:*
After applying the latest update, I am now getting an alert as expected
with an incoming message, however, it is not lasting. I participate in
the APRS Thursday thing and when I send my report, I get several
messages and the alert sounds. The following week, no sounds. I have to
restart YAAC to get the sounds to come again with incoming messages.
Sometime during the week, they stop working and by the next Thursday I
have to restart YAAC to get them back. My APRS runs 24/7 here in the
shack. I'm not seeing any other issues and no indication when the sound
feature stops working, until I look at the message list and see a
message came in and I got no alert. Ideas? -- 73, Michael WA7SKG



















"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."


Re: Sound Plugin Stopping

 

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I've had running for 10 straight days now and it's still playing the .wav file successfully. I don't think I can replicate the problem.?

Per chance, is your plugin-selected sound card on USB, and did it get unplugged at any point? I don't think YAAC would deal well with a disappearing sound card.

Also, how many different sound files were you using, and did you change any of them during the run?

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2024 12:19:14 PM

It doesn't seem to matter the number of messages. I sent a bunch of test
messages and so far it is still working. I restarted last Thursday.
We'll see what happens this Thursday. It's only been a couple weeks, so
maybe it was just some glitch and no longer happening.

Michael WA7SKG

Andrew P. wrote on 4/14/24 2:04 PM:
> I can't be certain, but I am guessing you are exceeding your open file
> quota by re-opening the same .wav file without ever closing it. As such,
> eventually YAAC would no longer be open the file. This would also
> interfere in YAAC logging, as it doesn't keep the log files open
> constantly, but only opens them for burst writes of the last few minutes
> backlog.
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> Alas, I didn't run YAAC for days after implementing the fix, so I didn't
> notice any quota leak.
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> I will look into it the next time I can work on YAAC.
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> Andrew, KA2DDO
> author of YAAC
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> [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG
> <wa7skg@...>
> *From:*
> Sunday, April 14, 2024 3:30:00 PM
> *Sent:*
> After applying the latest update, I am now getting an alert as expected
> with an incoming message, however, it is not lasting. I participate in
> the APRS Thursday thing and when I send my report, I get several
> messages and the alert sounds. The following week, no sounds. I have to
> restart YAAC to get the sounds to come again with incoming messages.
> Sometime during the week, they stop working and by the next Thursday I
> have to restart YAAC to get them back. My APRS runs 24/7 here in the
> shack. I'm not seeing any other issues and no indication when the sound
> feature stops working, until I look at the message list and see a
> message came in and I got no alert. Ideas? -- 73, Michael WA7SKG
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Re: Monitoring a single port?

 
Edited

The filters when applied to Station/Object list does seem to give me only the TNC source as I want.

However, when the filters are applied, the Last Rcvd column does not sort correctly. Without the filters applied it does sort correctly.

Update, the sorting by time seems to have corrected itself after a few hours!


Re: To Andrew-Please consider

 

Stay tuned and I'll see what I can do about getting you some support materials.


On Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 3:54?PM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote:
Well, YAAC is already dual-mode APRS and OpenTRAC, so one more wouldn't be a huge stretch. The issue is the API to the radio/modem.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 10:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] To Andrew-Please consider

Andrew please consider being the first APRS/CATS dual mode software.? This looks good!? I'll help where I can.



Ronny
K4RJJ








Re: Monitoring a single port?

 

That is true. The Heard Stations view doesn't use YAAC's filtering capability.

I will look into fixing this. Also, you might find other views (such as the Station/Object list) that might provide the information you seek that do use the filters.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rik Rasmussen WA4BAN <rikrasmussen@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 12:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Monitoring a single port?

Andrew,

I am a new YAAC user. I found the filter to works well as you describe here as far as viewing Raw Packets.

However, when I view Heard Stations, the filter doesn't seem to block the APRS-IS traffic. I have to disable the APRS-IS port in order to see only RF stations in the Heard Stations window. Am I missing something? I would like to continue operating as RF>igate mode, but sometimes only want to see RF stations heard.


Re: Monitoring a single port?

 

Andrew,

I am a new YAAC user. I found the filter to works well as you describe here as far as viewing Raw Packets.

However, when I view Heard Stations, the filter doesn't seem to block the APRS-IS traffic. I have to disable the APRS-IS port in order to see only RF stations in the Heard Stations window. Am I missing something? I would like to continue operating as RF>igate mode, but sometimes only want to see RF stations heard.


Re: To Andrew-Please consider

 

Well, YAAC is already dual-mode APRS and OpenTRAC, so one more wouldn't be a huge stretch. The issue is the API to the radio/modem.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 10:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] To Andrew-Please consider

Andrew please consider being the first APRS/CATS dual mode software. This looks good! I'll help where I can.



Ronny
K4RJJ


To Andrew-Please consider

 

Andrew please consider being the first APRS/CATS dual mode software.? This looks good!? I'll help where I can.



Ronny
K4RJJ


Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

 

The first picture is of my rig - the Argent board is installed, along with their USB adapter.

The DB9 connector and cable are present - as pictured - just not connected.

In the Argent Data sample install - they've removed the db9 connector and cable entirely.

They provide the USB-mini to USB-B jumper, that's shown in both pictures, to bring the data

out the back of the rig.

It's my understanding that the white connector on the side of the Argent Tracker board is

for a GPS device.

I've requested clarification from Argent ... email #3 today ...

On 4/18/24 20:58, Andrew P. wrote:
So where's the Alinco's original DB9 connector and cable? Did you take it out? It should have been connected to the connector on the Argent Tracker board that didn't come with a cable pre-attached to it.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 8:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

That picture was my rig. Here's the sample install that Argent Data has on their Web page ...

[https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/images/t3-135-installed.JPG]


Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

 

So where's the Alinco's original DB9 connector and cable? Did you take it out? It should have been connected to the connector on the Argent Tracker board that didn't come with a cable pre-attached to it.

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 8:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

That picture was my rig. Here's the sample install that Argent Data has on their Web page ...

[https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/images/t3-135-installed.JPG]


Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

 

That picture was my rig. Here's the sample install that Argent Data has on their Web page ...