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Tactical Messages from PT2VHF
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI keep getting tactical messages from this call, can I turn that shit off? ? Jamie Hughes WA7JH (360) 340-8886 ? |
next beta build#204 of YAAC, created 2024-Oct-16
next beta build#204 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), re-created 2024-Oct-16
downloadable from or changes and updates include: 1. account for day and month wrap issues for timestamped position and Object reports. 2. support compressed-mode position reports for weather stations where the compressed-mode position includes the wind direction and speed. 3. speed up YAAC startup by optimizing initialization code. 4. properly identify private Objects as Objects when they will never have any messages. 5. add ability to draw "heat map" of station position density across time (for moving station coverage). 6. add optional capability to send an Object kill message when a locally originated Object is deleted from the local system. 7. harden packet log import code to survive cases when logged packets were corrupted. 8. add the ability to mark selected stations with higher or lower importance for purposes of sorting stations. 9. fix cases where certain popup menu choices were not allowed on the map view when they should have been. 10. remove some duplicate GUI layout code. 11. fix bug introduced in digipeat path editing panel. 12. widen timestamp columns in table views so the time isn't truncated by default. 13. fix Object editor when updating an Object using an alternate symbol table overlay code. 14. first pass at trying to fix Station/Object list when the list is restricted to only Stations or only Objects. 15. first pass at trying to fix map refresh logic when timed values need updating. 16. fix rendering of overlay character when using double-sized or quad-sized icons. 17. add indicator on map window toolbar to report that filtering is being used, so the user doesn't have to open the Edit->Filter dialog to check for the presence of filtering. 18. fix inactivity timing in APRS-IS port driver to prevent spurious disconnects when traffic is light. 19. make the "pool ball" icons stop rotating on the map. 20. fix ADSB plugin to refresh the map when aircraft data is updated. 21. make it possible to clear old history from the vessels table in the AisDecoder plugin. 22. fix pseudo-APRS-IS server plugin to send cached state of known stations to newly connected clients so they don't have to wait to get current on network status. 23. update demo and smallscreen plugins to work with new screen feature added to support a previous build's update to the dynamic objects plugin. 24. add ability in dynamic objects plugin to locate the position of a distance along a route. 25. tweak the MS150CueTranslator utility to match the identifiers used for this year's rest stops. 26. add more icons for amenity types on the OpenStreetMap rendering. |
Re: Connection to Microsat WX 3N1 2.0
David said:
>I just joined this group. I have a Microsat WX 3 N that is fully operational as a digipeter/Igate. I am also going
>to set up and configure my new Peet brothers weather station with it. I remember reading somewhere that
>YAAC could be connected to it, The unit is functioning very well as a digipeter/igate. It doesn't provide either
>messaging capability or object creation. What is the general scoop on using YAAC with it? Please advice. ?
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It looks like no one got back to you regarding using a Microsat WX3-in-1 as a TNC for YAAC. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with the device, so can only go with the documentation on the Microsat website.
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There appear to be a few ways to connect YAAC to your Microsat device:
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1. If you can Bluetooth bind the Microsat to your computer as a virtual serial port, you can use the Serial_TNC port type in YAAC to talk to that Bluetooth serial port, both send and receive. Note this may not work on Microsoft Windows, due to its peculiar way of opening Bluetooth SPP (Serial Port Protocol) connections; you should be OK on Linux or Mac OS X.
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2. You can make a KISS-over-TCP connection to the Microsat at its local LAN IP address (assigned by the router on the network it is plugged into), but I don't know what TCP port you should connect to (check the Microsat documentation). Also, they state on the data sheet that this is receive-only, so it probably won't meet your needs.
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3. You can make an APRS-IS server connection to the Microsat (rather than to the APRS-IS Internet backbone). Again, you would manually specify the LAN IP address assigned to your Microsat instead of using one of the stock domain names for backbone servers. Not sure if you would need to know your APRS-IS server passcode to be able to transmit through the Microsat.
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Good luck. Let us know if any of these work for you.
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Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC |
Re: Feature request
OK, I have a fix that works with compressed position reports. It will be in the next build of YAAC.
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Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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On 9/27/2024 11:16 AM, vk7tm.mike@... wrote:
Given Andrew's notice of the compressed coordinates issue with YAAC, the comment may or may not be allowed.?? You might want to try re-enabling it after a YAAC release that provides for weather parsing with compressed locations. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 |
Re: YAAC connecting with a Mobilinckd 4 tnc
James I have two TNC 4 units.? I got both working once and now that I am trying to get them asigned I'm running into the same issue.? Windows sees them and connects but then quickly disconnects.? It never assigns a COM port but it does remember the device.? I know this is a driver issue that I fixed once but cannot remember what I di.? Once the COM port is assigned YAAC talks fine to these units as a KISS TNC.? I used it for a few hours locally.? Can you help here or maybe on email?? Sharring the final solution here would be a great help to many people. Thanks! Ronny W4TRI On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 12:23?PM Jamie H via <wa7jh=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: YAAC connecting with a Mobilinckd 4 tnc
I was able to get the Mobilinkd to work with Windows, it just took a bunch of fuckery to get it there.
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Also you can use it when USB connected via cable to your computer. Still requires some effort, but keeps it charged and operational.
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And third, you can charge and use the TNC 4 at the same time. |
Re: YAAC connecting with a Mobilinckd 4 tnc
You could do that on YAAC running on Mac OS X or Linux. However, because of the peculiar way Microsoft Windows binds virtual COM ports over Bluetooth, YAAC can't talk to the Mobilink over Bluetooth from Windows.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of David Alan Tibbetts via groups.io <cymru242002@...> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2024 3:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] YAAC connecting with a Mobilinckd 4 tnc I am the proud owner of a Mobilinkd 4 tnc Is it feasible to useful to connect it to YAAC. It's only drawback is that it is battery powered, as in a rechargeable battery, in fact I seen was curious about it's efficacy as a kiss tnC to connect to a MicroStat WX3N1. Thoughts on all of the above? |
YAAC connecting with a Mobilinckd 4 tnc
I am the proud owner of a Mobilinkd 4 tnc Is it feasible to useful to connect it to YAAC. It's only drawback is that it is battery powered, as in a rechargeable battery, in fact I seen was curious about it's efficacy as a kiss tnC to connect to a MicroStat WX3N1. Thoughts ?on all of the above? |
Connection to Microsat WX 3N1 2.0
I just joined this group. I have a Microsat WX 3 N that is fully operational as a digipeter/Igate. I am also going to set up and configure my new Peet brothers weather station with it. I remember reading somewhere that YAAC could be connected to it, The unit is functioning very well as a digipeter/igate. It doesn't provide either messaging capability or object creation. What is the general scoop on using YAAC with it? Please advice. ? |
next beta build#203 of YAAC, created 2024-Sep-27
next beta build#203 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), re-created 2024-Sep-27
downloadable from or part 1 of changes and updates include: 1. miscellaneous performance improvements regarding memory consumption and excessive transient malloc's. 2. add the ability to copy the mouse cursor's position on a map window to the clipboard as pasteable CSV latitude and longitude values. 3. generalize ability to create glass pane overlays so plugins can use them too. 4. fix problem in rendering maps when the International Date Line is showing with Western hemisphere to the right of it. 5. fix problem in rendering highway signs when two or more routes are on the same stretch of road. 6. fix WayAnalyzer debug utility to run faster with extremely large Way files, fix sort by way ID number, and allow searching for highway and airport IDs. 7. minor Javadoc improvements. 8. fixing assorted cases where map data was manually updated but map was not immediately refreshed to show the changes. 9. bring in Hessu's tocalls database as of 11 Sep 2024. 10. add ability to manually add and edit routes in the Dynamic Objects plugin. 11. improve accuracy of fitting a coarse cue point route to OSM street data in the Dynamic Objects plugin. 12. add ability to save Routes as external CSV, GPX, or KML files. 13. update MS150CueTranslator to account for latest format in cue spreadsheets. |
Re: Feature request
Looks like you're good then re: absolute barometric pressure bounds. The US MADIS lower limit is 568 HPa, and the reported average at the top of Mount Kosciuszko is around 880HPa.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of vk7tm.mike@... <vk7tm.mike@...> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2024 11:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Feature request Mount Kosciuszko is the tallest mountain peak in mainland Australia at 2,228 meters (7,310 feet) tall. It is located in the state of New South Wales, in the southeastern part of the country. Mount Ossa has an elevation of 5,305 ft and is the highest mountain in Tasmania. |
Re: Feature request
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn 9/27/2024 11:16 AM,
vk7tm.mike@... wrote:
Given Andrew's notice of the compressed coordinates issue with YAAC, the comment may or may not be allowed.?? You might want to try re-enabling it after a YAAC release that provides for weather parsing with compressed locations. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 |
Re: Feature request
2024-09-27 14:50:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270502z/c7NIs@.../?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N}
2024-09-27 14:55:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270507z/c7NIs@rE_?.bg007t072r000p000P000h34b10235/?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N} 2024-09-27 15:00:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270512z/c7NIs@.../?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N} 2024-09-27 15:05:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270517z/c7NIs@rE_M4bg007t071r000p000P000h33b10234/?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N} 2024-09-27 15:15:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270527z/c7NIs@rE_O4bg008t070r000p000P000h35b10235/?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N} 2024-09-27 15:20:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270532z/c7NIs@rE_M7bg008t070r000p000P000h37b10235/?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N} 2024-09-27 15:25:52 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270537z/c7NIs@rE_K4bg006t070r000p000P000h35b10235/?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N} 2024-09-27 15:30:53 AEST: >APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@270542z/c7NIs@rE_M2bg006t071r000p000P000h37b10234/?Somerset?Weather?{UIV32N} ?
From aprs.fi.
I had to go back a page or two. It looks like I'd already been to see VK7DSH and adjusted his beacons before you did your check. |
Re: Feature request
Also, regarding the green boxes and "tan" text. That actually is probably red text indicating that field looks unreasonable compared either to other nearby weather stations, or against absolute standards defined by the US National Weather Service; for example, there is a broken weather station in my area reporting a barometric pressure of 699.2 HPa when all the surrounding stations are around 1010 HPa, so its pressure value is displayed in red. Sure, air pressure at the top of Mount Everest is only around 330 HPa, but there aren't any mountains nearly that tall in the United States, so the US National Weather Service has a minimum barometric pressure check that is reasonable for anywhere in the US. Do you have mountains in the same elevation class as the Himalayas anywhere in Australia? As in, do I need to adjust the absolute bounds checks for pressure?
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2024 7:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Feature request Ah, that's interesting. YAAC is not decoding the weather data from VK7DSH-1 because it expects the uncompressed course (wind direction) and speed to begin the weather data, but that station is using compressed position format which includes the course and speed. I will have to fix the recognition of weather data when using compressed position format. Thank you for finding that bug. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2024 7:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Feature request I don't know anything about how YAAC displays weather stations, but I was curious what you mean by VK7DSH-1 having a "message tacked on the end"? I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary in aprs.fi's raw packet display? 2024-09-27 07:03:02 EDT: VK7DSH-1<>>APU25N,VK7RMD*<>,WIDE3-2,qAR,VK7DIK<>:@271103z/c7NIs@rE_2!bg000t047r000p000P000h79b10251 type: location format: compressed srccallsign: VK7DSH-1 dstcallsign: APU25N latitude: -41.054333387587 ¡ã longitude: 145.82149813875 ¡ã course: 68 ¡ã speed: 0 km/h symboltable: / symbolcode: _ messaging: 1 posresolution: 0.291 m comment: timestamp: 1727434980 - 2024-09-27 07:03:00 EDT wx: humidity: 79 % pressure: 1025.1 mbar temp: 8.3 ¡ãC wind_gust: 0.0 m/s rain_1h: 0.0 mm rain_midnight: 0.0 mm rain_24h: 0.0 mm Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 9/27/2024 2:01 AM, vk7tm.mike@...<mailto:vk7tm.mike@...> wrote: I now have my Weather station and another listed in the Health Monitor and monitoring them in Weather Station Status. VK7DSH-1 is not being displayed correctly, course and speed are the only fields populated. My own VK7TM-1 is populating the fields correctly. As VK7DSH-1 is not displaying correctly when monitored I suspect YAAC is not happy with its weather packet, he has a message tacked on the end which may be causing the problem. I'll pay him a visit and see if it can be removed to check if it is the culprit. Yes I'm referring to the pop up window when I click on a station. The weather information disappears when I click on another weather station. I'd prefer to have weather station pop up windows stay active so I can monitor several at once. Though I have been playing and pretty much what I require can be achieved with View Station on "Radio". Just one other small issue is the color scheme in Health Monitor, most of the fields have a light green background and with the Tan? colored text it is extremely difficult to read. Thanks for your efforts. Mike, VK7TM |
Re: Feature request
Ah, that's interesting. YAAC is not decoding the weather data from VK7DSH-1 because it expects the uncompressed course (wind direction) and speed to begin the weather data, but that station is using compressed position format which includes the course and speed. I will have to fix the recognition of weather data when using compressed position format.
Thank you for finding that bug. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2024 7:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Feature request I don't know anything about how YAAC displays weather stations, but I was curious what you mean by VK7DSH-1 having a "message tacked on the end"? I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary in aprs.fi's raw packet display? 2024-09-27 07:03:02 EDT: VK7DSH-1<>>APU25N,VK7RMD*<>,WIDE3-2,qAR,VK7DIK<>:@271103z/c7NIs@rE_2!bg000t047r000p000P000h79b10251 type: location format: compressed srccallsign: VK7DSH-1 dstcallsign: APU25N latitude: -41.054333387587 ¡ã longitude: 145.82149813875 ¡ã course: 68 ¡ã speed: 0 km/h symboltable: / symbolcode: _ messaging: 1 posresolution: 0.291 m comment: timestamp: 1727434980 - 2024-09-27 07:03:00 EDT wx: humidity: 79 % pressure: 1025.1 mbar temp: 8.3 ¡ãC wind_gust: 0.0 m/s rain_1h: 0.0 mm rain_midnight: 0.0 mm rain_24h: 0.0 mm Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 On 9/27/2024 2:01 AM, vk7tm.mike@...<mailto:vk7tm.mike@...> wrote: I now have my Weather station and another listed in the Health Monitor and monitoring them in Weather Station Status. VK7DSH-1 is not being displayed correctly, course and speed are the only fields populated. My own VK7TM-1 is populating the fields correctly. As VK7DSH-1 is not displaying correctly when monitored I suspect YAAC is not happy with its weather packet, he has a message tacked on the end which may be causing the problem. I'll pay him a visit and see if it can be removed to check if it is the culprit. Yes I'm referring to the pop up window when I click on a station. The weather information disappears when I click on another weather station. I'd prefer to have weather station pop up windows stay active so I can monitor several at once. Though I have been playing and pretty much what I require can be achieved with View Station on "Radio". Just one other small issue is the color scheme in Health Monitor, most of the fields have a light green background and with the Tan? colored text it is extremely difficult to read. Thanks for your efforts. Mike, VK7TM |
Re: Feature request
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI don't know anything about how YAAC
displays weather stations, but I was curious what you mean by
VK7DSH-1 having a "message tacked on the end"??? I'm not seeing
anything out of the ordinary in aprs.fi's raw packet display??
2024-09-27 07:03:02 EDT:?>APU25N,,WIDE3-2,qAR,:@271103z/c7NIs@rE_2!bg000t047r000p000P000h79b10251 ???type: location ???format: compressed ???srccallsign: VK7DSH-1 ???dstcallsign: APU25N ???latitude: -41.054333387587 ¡ã ???longitude: 145.82149813875 ¡ã ???course: 68 ¡ã ???speed: 0 km/h ???symboltable: / ???symbolcode: _ ???messaging: 1 ???posresolution: 0.291 m ???comment: ???timestamp: 1727434980 - 2024-09-27 07:03:00 EDT ???wx: ??????humidity: 79 % ??????pressure: 1025.1 mbar ??????temp: 8.3 ¡ãC ??????wind_gust: 0.0 m/s ??????rain_1h: 0.0 mm ??????rain_midnight: 0.0 mm ??????rain_24h: 0.0 mm Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 9/27/2024 2:01 AM,
vk7tm.mike@... wrote:
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Re: Feature request
I now have my Weather station and another listed in the Health Monitor and monitoring them in Weather Station Status. VK7DSH-1 is not being displayed correctly, course and speed are the only fields populated. My own VK7TM-1 is populating the fields correctly. As VK7DSH-1 is not displaying correctly when monitored I suspect YAAC is not happy with its weather packet, he has a message tacked on the end which may be causing the problem. I'll pay him a visit and see if it can be removed to check if it is the culprit.
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Yes I'm referring to the pop up window when I click on a station. The weather information disappears when I click on another weather station. I'd prefer to have weather station pop up windows stay active so I can monitor several at once. Though I have been playing and pretty much what I require can be achieved with View Station on "Radio".
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Just one other small issue is the color scheme in Health Monitor, most of the fields have a light green background and with the Tan? colored text it is extremely difficult to read.
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Thanks for your efforts.
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Mike, VK7TM |
Re: Feature request
Hello, Mike.
I'm not sure I quite follow you. Are you referring to the View->Weather Status dialog for your local station? Or the popup window on the map when you click on a station? The latter shows only the weather data fields that particular station has, so it might look different on different stations (ex.: stations with versus without barometric pressure sensors). Another alternative present in YAAC now is the monitored stations list. If you monitor a station, it goes on a special list with several table views in the View->Health Monitor window. If you are monitoring the weather health of several weather stations, they will be displayed in a consistent tabular view, including indicating what sensors of a station are not consistent with the US NWS MADIS quality checks relative to the other stations. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of vk7tm.mike@... <vk7tm.mike@...> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2024 10:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] Feature request Hello Andrew, When I click on my weather station icon my weather data is nicely displayed in a window. How about the same format for weather stations other than my own and to allow each of these to remain open when I select another station to see its information. Regards, Mike VK7TM |
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