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Hello All,
Has anyone experience of making a 12:1 kicker?? I plan to make one, not because I think I necessarily need one, but because it seems like a fun thing to do. I have an Anglo?Marine? boat with the original 3:1 system that includes?the stainless block and v cleat. I think I also?have the original sails too, so I'm not expecting a tremendous performance improvement.?
I have seen the WCOA technical pages ?with a brief?description of what's required.? The article mentions some illustrations in Issue 60 of the magazine, but I can't seem to find the images on the website.
I propose to make a cascade with low friction rings?and dyneema and use the old kicker system for tensioning it.? Any thoughts??
And a more specific question...? Can someone tell me the distance between the mast attachment and the boom attachment, please.? My boat is in Menorca and I'm in Bristol so measuring is tricky.
Regards
Neil Chapman 579
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Should have added, set it up with the screws facing the same way as the mast and boom fixings so it isn't twisted when you put it on the boat.
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Hi Neil, we cruise only so we've not tried to stay in class, so have built a 16 to 1 in wire with the last part in rope for handling. But you could use the 3 to 1, then double it twice with a cascade. We used wire just because I have a splicer. Dyneema
would work perfectly. And it does make some performance difference,? even with old sails. Sorry I don't have the measurements as I'm not near the boat. One other thing, once you have the measurement, build your kicker on a strong plank of wood with 2 strong
screws at the neds at the right length. It makes it easier to work it all out. And if you end up slightly out you can move the fitting along the boom either way to compensate.
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Hello All,
Has anyone experience of making a 12:1 kicker?? I plan to make one, not because I think I necessarily need one, but because it seems like a fun thing to do. I have an Anglo?Marine? boat with the original 3:1 system that includes?the stainless block and v cleat.
I think I also?have the original sails too, so I'm not expecting a tremendous performance improvement.?
I have seen the WCOA technical pages ?with a brief?description of what's required.? The article mentions some illustrations in Issue 60 of the magazine, but I can't seem to find the images on the website.
I propose to make a cascade with low friction rings?and dyneema and use the old kicker system for tensioning it.? Any thoughts??
And a more specific question...? Can someone tell me the distance between the mast attachment and the boom attachment, please.? My boat is in Menorca and I'm in Bristol so measuring is tricky.
Regards
Neil Chapman
579
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Jonathon
Class rules allow for a 16:1 kicker and don’t specify the material so you wire kicker is in class, as long as it is cleated at the mast or lead back to the thwart.?
Regards
Mike
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On 24 Sep 2022, at 16:28, Jonathan Daniel via groups.io <jdaniel1000@...> wrote:
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Should have added, set it up with the screws facing the same way as the mast and boom fixings so it isn't twisted when you put it on the boat.
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Hi Neil, we cruise only so we've not tried to stay in class, so have built a 16 to 1 in wire with the last part in rope for handling. But you could use the 3 to 1, then double it twice with a cascade. We used wire just because I have a splicer. Dyneema
would work perfectly. And it does make some performance difference,? even with old sails. Sorry I don't have the measurements as I'm not near the boat. One other thing, once you have the measurement, build your kicker on a strong plank of wood with 2 strong
screws at the neds at the right length. It makes it easier to work it all out. And if you end up slightly out you can move the fitting along the boom either way to compensate.
Get
Hello All,
Has anyone experience of making a 12:1 kicker?? I plan to make one, not because I think I necessarily need one, but because it seems like a fun thing to do. I have an Anglo?Marine? boat with the original 3:1 system that includes?the stainless block and v cleat.
I think I also?have the original sails too, so I'm not expecting a tremendous performance improvement.?
I have seen the WCOA technical pages ?with a brief?description of what's required.? The article mentions some illustrations in Issue 60 of the magazine, but I can't seem to find the images on the website.
I propose to make a cascade with low friction rings?and dyneema and use the old kicker system for tensioning it.? Any thoughts??
And a more specific question...? Can someone tell me the distance between the mast attachment and the boom attachment, please.? My boat is in Menorca and I'm in Bristol so measuring is tricky.
Regards
Neil Chapman
579
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Hi Neil, we cruise only so we've not tried to stay in class, so have built a 16 to 1 in wire with the last part in rope for handling. But you could use the 3 to 1, then double it twice with a cascade. We used wire just because I have a splicer. Dyneema
would work perfectly. And it does make some performance difference,? even with old sails. Sorry I don't have the measurements as I'm not near the boat. One other thing, once you have the measurement, build your kicker on a strong plank of wood with 2 strong
screws at the neds at the right length. It makes it easier to work it all out. And if you end up slightly out you can move the fitting along the boom either way to compensate.
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Hello All,
Has anyone experience of making a 12:1 kicker?? I plan to make one, not because I think I necessarily need one, but because it seems like a fun thing to do. I have an Anglo?Marine? boat with the original 3:1 system that includes?the stainless block and v cleat.
I think I also?have the original sails too, so I'm not expecting a tremendous performance improvement.?
I have seen the WCOA technical pages ?with a brief?description of what's required.? The article mentions some illustrations in Issue 60 of the magazine, but I can't seem to find the images on the website.
I propose to make a cascade with low friction rings?and dyneema and use the old kicker system for tensioning it.? Any thoughts??
And a more specific question...? Can someone tell me the distance between the mast attachment and the boom attachment, please.? My boat is in Menorca and I'm in Bristol so measuring is tricky.
Regards
Neil Chapman
579
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Johnathan,
Thanks very much for your response. The photo really helps: good tip about making a pattern. ? I think I can even make out the lengths from the rule in the photo.?
Regards, Neil
On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 at 17:41, Mike Bennett < mjb1416@...> wrote: Jonathon
Class rules allow for a 16:1 kicker and don’t specify the material so you wire kicker is in class, as long as it is cleated at the mast or lead back to the thwart.?
Regards
Mike ?
Should have added, set it up with the screws facing the same way as the mast and boom fixings so it isn't twisted when you put it on the boat.
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Hi Neil, we cruise only so we've not tried to stay in class, so have built a 16 to 1 in wire with the last part in rope for handling. But you could use the 3 to 1, then double it twice with a cascade. We used wire just because I have a splicer. Dyneema
would work perfectly. And it does make some performance difference,? even with old sails. Sorry I don't have the measurements as I'm not near the boat. One other thing, once you have the measurement, build your kicker on a strong plank of wood with 2 strong
screws at the neds at the right length. It makes it easier to work it all out. And if you end up slightly out you can move the fitting along the boom either way to compensate.
Get
Hello All,
Has anyone experience of making a 12:1 kicker?? I plan to make one, not because I think I necessarily need one, but because it seems like a fun thing to do. I have an Anglo?Marine? boat with the original 3:1 system that includes?the stainless block and v cleat.
I think I also?have the original sails too, so I'm not expecting a tremendous performance improvement.?
I have seen the WCOA technical pages ?with a brief?description of what's required.? The article mentions some illustrations in Issue 60 of the magazine, but I can't seem to find the images on the website.
I propose to make a cascade with low friction rings?and dyneema and use the old kicker system for tensioning it.? Any thoughts??
And a more specific question...? Can someone tell me the distance between the mast attachment and the boom attachment, please.? My boat is in Menorca and I'm in Bristol so measuring is tricky.
Regards
Neil Chapman
579
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Glad it helps. Just remember to be accurate with the length as there's a lot less adjustment in a cascade kicker....
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Johnathan,
Thanks very much for your response. The photo really helps: good tip about making a pattern. ? I think I can even make out the lengths from the rule in the photo.?
Regards, Neil
On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 at 17:41, Mike Bennett < mjb1416@...> wrote:
Jonathon
Class rules allow for a 16:1 kicker and don’t specify the material so you wire kicker is in class, as long as it is cleated at the mast or lead back to the thwart.?
Regards
Mike
? Should have added, set it up with the screws facing the same way as the mast and boom fixings so it isn't twisted when you put it on the boat.
Get
Hi Neil, we cruise only so we've not tried to stay in class, so have built a 16 to 1 in wire with the last part in rope for handling. But you could use the 3 to 1, then double it twice with a cascade. We used wire just because I have a splicer. Dyneema
would work perfectly. And it does make some performance difference,? even with old sails. Sorry I don't have the measurements as I'm not near the boat. One other thing, once you have the measurement, build your kicker on a strong plank of wood with 2 strong
screws at the neds at the right length. It makes it easier to work it all out. And if you end up slightly out you can move the fitting along the boom either way to compensate.
Get
Hello All,
Has anyone experience of making a 12:1 kicker?? I plan to make one, not because I think I necessarily need one, but because it seems like a fun thing to do. I have an Anglo?Marine? boat with
the original 3:1 system that includes?the stainless block and v cleat. I think I also?have the original sails too, so I'm not expecting a tremendous performance improvement.?
I have seen the WCOA technical pages
?with a brief?description of what's required.? The article mentions some illustrations in Issue 60 of the magazine, but I can't seem to find the images on the website.
I propose to make a cascade with low friction rings?and dyneema and use the old kicker system for tensioning it.? Any thoughts??
And a more specific question...? Can someone tell me the distance between the mast attachment and the boom attachment, please.? My boat is in Menorca and I'm in Bristol so measuring is tricky.
Regards
Neil Chapman
579
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