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开云体育? Hi all, ? Just interested in how single handed Wanderer sailors have managed with capsize recovery on their own in a Wanderer? ? Is it doable? Any specific tricks or advice? – I am going to do a test capsize on my own shortly because I will be sailing a bit on my own and want to be prepared. ? Mine is a Hartly boats 2009. ? (Not that I am suggesting that this happens much to you experienced sailors of course !!!) ? Many thanks, ? ? Peter W1604 ? Sent from for Windows ? |
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Hi Peter I always sail on my own and found righting of my Anglo marine boat was fine, she came up easy with me pulling on the centreplate. I have the steel plate conversion which may have helped a little, and I've seen boats with righting lines rigged to help but found I didn't need them. She sat pretty deep in the water so getting back in was easy enough too. I was also pleasantly surprised how quickly the self bailers got her dry again ! regards Pete
On Tuesday, 26 April 2022, 13:53:56 BST, Peter Mills <peter_mills@...> wrote:
? Hi all, ? Just interested in how single handed Wanderer sailors have managed with capsize recovery on their own in a Wanderer? ? Is it doable? Any specific tricks or advice? – I am going to do a test capsize on my own shortly because I will be sailing a bit on my own and want to be prepared. ? Mine is a Hartly boats 2009. ? (Not that I am suggesting that this happens much to you experienced sailors of course !!!) ? Many thanks, ? ? Peter W1604 ? Sent from for Windows ? |
开云体育I did it once with my Anglo boat and had no issues though she come upright with a lot of water in so wallows about and is a bit unstable. I don’t use righting lines but I carry a short length of rope: about 2metres or so, tied at one end to the aft toe step bracket with a loop in the free end. The idea is that in a capsize it falls over the side of the boat and gives something to hang on to once the boat is upright. The loop provides a “step” to help climbing aboard. That’s the theory but it’s yet to be put to the test!Regards? John R W1518 On 26 Apr 2022, at 14:00, PeteS via groups.io <pete.sheppard09@...> wrote:
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开云体育Hi all, ? John Renouf kindly suggested a helpful aid to getting back in the boat after a capsize (see below). Which involved having a length rope? with a loop in it to provide a “step”. One or two people have also mentioned something like this to me in the past. ? I wonder if others have used a method like this. After capsizing at the weekend the most difficult part for me was not so much righting the boat (It came back up OK) but, climbing onto the centre board in the first place and then once righted climbing into the boat. So I am thinking about trying an arrangement like this to ease the process, but am wondering how exactly this would work. ? So in a standard capsize to the leeward, presumably the rope would fall down on the inside and not on windward side where the centre board is and where it is needed? ? Any suggestions would be much appreciated. ? Peter W1604 ? Sent from for Windows ? From: John Renouf
Sent: 26 April 2022 19:08 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [wanderer] Sailing Single Handed ? I did it once with my Anglo boat and had no issues though she come upright with a lot of water in so wallows about and is a bit unstable. I don’t use righting lines but I carry a short length of rope: about 2metres or so, tied at one end to the aft toe step bracket with a loop in the free end. The idea is that in a capsize it falls over the side of the boat and gives something to hang on to once the boat is upright. The loop provides a “step” to help climbing aboard. That’s the theory but it’s yet to be put to the test! ? Regards? ? John R W1518
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开云体育I think doing a practice is very wise.?In ?my case the previous owner had done a wonderful varnish job on the centreplate which made it really tricky to stand on, slipped off a few times. ?Also - nice and gentle on the centre board as there were some ominous cracking sounds (possibly from the centreboard case which has now been reinforced with biaxial cloth and west system epoxy). I got in over the transom but it was a major physical effort inspired by panic. Frightened man with a bucket works well for bailing but the whole thing was pretty knackering and I needed a half hour to recover by which time I was quite cold. THEREFORE - anything that prepares you for the physical and psychological shock of a capsize is a very good thing.?
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开云体育I struggled to get on my slippery white GRP centreboard. My buoyancy aid got in the way. I only just made it. Couldn’t pull the boat up and had to be rescued. (I learned that waving at the safety boat doesn’t mean rescue me!) I’m not sure whether my pre Hartley boat has the MD conversion. How can I tell? I thought everything ‘late old build’ was built to float low.Concerned of Rye Harbour! Anna ? On 4 Jun 2022, at 11:13, Mark Allinson via groups.io <m.allinson2@...> wrote:
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开云体育Anna, ? Your pre-Hartley Wanderer will have had the MD conversion if the area beneath the port and starboard ?benches aft the thwart are cut open (thereby reducing the buoyancy to enable the boat to float lower. ? Cheers. ? Philip Meadowcroft W1541 Black Mischief ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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Sent: 04 June 2022 12:59 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [wanderer] Sailing Single Handed ? I struggled to get on my slippery white GRP centreboard. My buoyancy aid got in the way. I only just made it. Couldn’t pull the boat up and had to be rescued. (I learned that waving at the safety boat doesn’t mean rescue me!) I’m not sure whether my pre Hartley boat has the MD conversion. How can I tell? I thought everything ‘late old build’ was built to float low. Concerned of Rye Harbour! Anna ?
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开云体育Thank you. Yes it’s an MD. It’s just old age then. I need to work out! The old wooden centre board would bend a bit and you could get more traction.?On 4 Jun 2022, at 13:10, Philip Meadowcroft <philip@...> wrote:
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I hope this doesn't sound too trite, but the best way to manage a capsize is to avoid one happening in the first place.?
I say this as an ex Wanderer sailor who capsized twice and had such trouble getting righted and sailing again I vowed it would never happen again. I had my capsizes in the first 18months of owning the boat, and then had 20 capsize-free years sailing it. The main problem, already discussed, is that older boats such as mine float high in the water. A stiff breeze on the hull will tend to push the partly submerged mainsail further under the water, rotating the boat and making it even harder to climb onto the centreboard. On one of my capsizes the mast stuck into the mud, so there was no way to recover without a pull from another boat. Luckily a passing launch was willing to help. My subsequent rules for avoiding capsize were: 1. Get an up-to-date weather forecast. Nowadays I find the best apps are XC Weather and Windy. One of the worst is BBC unless you want to know if it's raining now. 2. Reef before you leave if you have any doubts about managing the wind. I installed slab reefing and it was the best improvement I made to the boat. 3. Have the jib sheet by your hand. If you are hiked out hard in a gust you don't want to be leaning into the boat to reach the sheet as that could significantly alter the balance. There has been mention in previous posts of tying the sheets together. I've never thought this was advantageous. Instead I made my sheets long enough that, when close-hauled, there was plenty hanging over the windward gunwale and, in a good breeze I would be sitting on it so it was always to hand. It's always possible to pick up the opposite sheet as you cross the boat when tacking. 4. Always be prepared to let the jib fly in a nasty gust. This will tend to turn the boat into the wind, reducing heeling. If you ease the main without easing the jib at the same time the boat will turn away from the wind and will heel more, and you may then get very wet. 5. Make sure there is nothing in the mast area that the jib sheet can get stuck on or in. I always filled the foredeck cleat to the brim with the painter, and made a sort of gasket cut from a plastic bottle that covered the gap between mast and foredeck. You don't want the jib to be held tight by the wrong sheet when you tack in a blow. As elsewhere mentioned, the metal centreboard is a great insurance policy. I'd have fitted one, but as I was largely sailing solo I had enough trouble pulling the boat up the slip without adding more weight to it. I had a buoyancy pocket added to the mainsail, but never tried it out once I'd established my 'no-capsize' policy, so I don't know how much buoyancy is needed to counteract the older 'too-buoyant' hull and prevent turning turtle. Hope this helps. Rule 6 is 'only capsize when the water's warm'! Alan? Ex W550 ? |
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On 4 Jun 2022, at 19:28, Alan Collins <arfcollins@...> wrote:
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开云体育Many thanks for all the helpful advice re single handed sailing and capsize recovery. All really helpful stuff. Much appreciated
Peter
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Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 7:56:11 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [wanderer] Sailing Single Handed ?
Thank you. Very wise words!
On 4 Jun 2022, at 19:28, Alan Collins <arfcollins@...> wrote:
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