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Re: Now that Reddit is dying...
Many devs are still doing test-after. I paired with a guy on my team who is doing so - and he was having the whole idea difficult to understand: after all, isn¡¯t a test something you do to see how
By Russell Gold · #36122 ·
Re: Now that Reddit is dying...
I'm here. Speaking in generalities, Swift devs as a whole are still getting used to test-after (and not even doing that for SwiftUI). Very few Swift folks are doing TDD. ________ Jon Reid, Trainer and
By Jon Reid · #36121 ·
Re: Does an AI assistant help with learning/using TDD?
a) yes I had ChatGPT resolve some nasty CSS interaction issues. It was conversationally incremental and reasonably effective. b) no I have not tried to get it to help with TDD. I wonder about the
By Jeff Langr · #36120 ·
Re: Does an AI assistant help with learning/using TDD?
Of course, the snippet used here is (intentionally) quite simple, and probably nothing like a real-world scenario. Generating insights from an LLM above and beyond small ¡°toy¡± scenarios (more like
By Mike Emeigh · #36119 ·
Does an AI assistant help with learning/using TDD?
Here in the middle of 2023 we see an AI bubble in the stock market - launched by OpenAI's release of ChatGPT. ?One can not turn on an info feed without hearing about AI these days. ?It is hotter
By David Koontz · #36118 ·
Re: Now that Reddit is dying...
Good points. I wanted to add that lists are often maintained as "awesome <something>" on github. For example, "awesome python": https://github.com/vinta/awesome-python A search for "awesome unit
By Chuck Esterbrook · #36117 ·
Re: Now that Reddit is dying...
Maybe it is my bad mood ... but lots of things are dying (just saw Google Domains sold to SqSpace are they still alive?) - and we humans are better at denial than acceptance as a WAY, as part of LIFE.
By David Koontz · #36116 ·
Re: Now that Reddit is dying...
Whatever happens, I think communication continuity is the key. We should try to make sure people don't get left behind. In this thread, I've heard about a subreddit, a youtube channel, a substack, and
By Buddha Buck · #36115 ·
Re: Now that Reddit is dying...
Here's a link to a recent video on refactoring that I found interesting. Maybe a good topic for discussion: Gilding the Rose: Refactoring-Driven Development - Kevlin Henney - ACCU 2023 | | | | | | | |
By Vaughn Cato · #36114 ·
Re: Now that Reddit is dying...
I think this group is significant in learning TDD and refactoring, and I'm following up and picking things up whenever I have time. As far as I can tell,? what is being said is not as important as
By Tony Vo · #36113 ·
Re: Now that Reddit is dying...
I really dislike how in discord you need to be invited, however, it seems to be where many are headed. brought to you by the letters A, V, and I and the number 47
By Avi Kessner · #36112 ·
Now that Reddit is dying...
Hi, folks. When we had the idea to rescue this group several years ago, I wondered what would happen, even though I had no concrete plan for it. The most I've done so far is lightly promote this group
By J. B. Rainsberger · #36111 ·
Re: paper: Test-Driven Development Benefits Beyond Design Quality: Flow State and Developer Experience
In the previous post, by "understand", I mean are specialists in both the topic and how to research that topic.
By Steve Gordon · #36110 ·
Re: paper: Test-Driven Development Benefits Beyond Design Quality: Flow State and Developer Experience
I would not advocate engineering faculty attempting to apply sophisticated social science research techniques, partly because it takes years of work to learn how to do it right and partly because it
By Steve Gordon · #36109 ·
Re: paper: Test-Driven Development Benefits Beyond Design Quality: Flow State and Developer Experience
Perhaps some pointers to examples of research you approve of would have helped here? I would have thought that when talking about developer experience, "feeling better" is potentially a valid data
By Steve Freeman · #36108 ·
Re: paper: Test-Driven Development Benefits Beyond Design Quality: Flow State and Developer Experience
I fully agree with Steve's comments, and I'd like to add that even if you did pursue the avenue of developing the same system using the non-Agile methods, and without TDD, and then developing the same
By pzelenovic@... · #36107 ·
Re: paper: Test-Driven Development Benefits Beyond Design Quality: Flow State and Developer Experience
I read it. The theoretical portion was not new to me, having done TDD and Agile, taught it in University and customer sites, and wrestled with how to actually prove it is better for several years. The
By Steve Gordon · #36106 ·
Re: paper: Test-Driven Development Benefits Beyond Design Quality: Flow State and Developer Experience
I am all open to criticism to improve the work BUT you need to read the paper first. The survey is just one evidence I've used, there is a strong theoretical component in the paper. The survey is
By Pedro Calais · #36105 ·
Re: paper: Test-Driven Development Benefits Beyond Design Quality: Flow State and Developer Experience
I'll add what I always say about such papers: We all agree with the motivations - it is preaching to the choir. The surveys mean nothing because of the bias in the sample being surveyed. To me, such
By Steve Gordon · #36104 ·
Re: paper: Test-Driven Development Benefits Beyond Design Quality: Flow State and Developer Experience
TL;DR: TDD is good not only in terms of how it helps the design, but it also favor our mental conditions to be more productive.
By Pedro Calais · #36103 ·