Re: [TDD] Three Law of TDD - to strictly follow, or not?
Hi Kaleb, Regarding "an incomplete but green test is at best misleading and at worst wrong: if a test is green it should be a valid test, and a partial or incomplete test is not valid." ... If I think
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Jeff Langr
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Re: [TDD] Three Law of TDD - to strictly follow, or not?
Hi Kaleb, On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Kaleb Pederson kaleb.pederson@... [testdrivendevelopment] <testdrivendevelopment@...> wrote: Stop! Go back to where you had the empty test.
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Kevin Rutherford
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Re: [TDD] Three Law of TDD - to strictly follow, or not?
Hi Kaleb, No, but when I get into trouble, I stop, back up and get more precise about how I'm proceeding. There should be no "typical" step size in your practice. Beck stressed the importance of
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Charlie Poole
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Re: [TDD] Three Law of TDD - to strictly follow, or not?
the pain your coworker was feeling could be down to not refactoring the test itself. Instantiating the class under test multiple times in a test is what I would consider to be duplication In some ways
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Kaleb Pederson
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Re: [TDD] Three Law of TDD - to strictly follow, or not?
No. But I don't follow anything strictly! This varies greatly depending on what I'm working on/how comfortable I am with everything. When working with a new language/framework etc. my steps will
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Colin Vipurs
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Re: [TDD] Three Law of TDD - to strictly follow, or not?
The official rules say to write a test, but only enough of a test to get a failure --- which means "not the whole test." But as to the title question: sometimes you should follow the rules strictly.
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Tim Ottinger
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Three Law of TDD - to strictly follow, or not?
Over the last three years I've been doing training on and advocating TDD where I work and a number of people have been striving to learn and use TDD in their daily development :). --- An experience
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Kaleb Pederson
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PDF Unit
Hi, Does anyone know of a good unit testing library for testing pdf in .NET? something similar to jPDFUnit? -- *Lior* *Friedman* Agile Consultant - AUT/TDD Expert | Mobile: 972.52.833.3660 | Email:
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lior friedman
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Test Tools/Gem for ADA 509 Compliance
We've been using Ruby and Cucumber for ATDD/BDD, using PageObject and some other cool Ruby gems with Watir/Selenium drivers. We've found that approach preferable to using Cucumber-JVM or SpecFlow,
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Camille Bell <cpbell1@...>
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Re: [TDD] current recommendations for tdd?
I think you'll need: - A good unit-testing library; - A good matcher/fluent-assertions library; and - A good mock library - A good UI-testing framework (whether you plan to test UI) IMHO, I recommend
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thiago_dp@...
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Re: [TDD] current recommendations for tdd?
Definitely JUnit. Also check out Mockito and AssertJ. [testdrivendevelopment] <testdrivendevelopment@...> wrote:
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Adam Sroka
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Re: [TDD] current recommendations for tdd?
Asim Jalis asimjalis@... [testdrivendevelopment] wrote: Just junit, and perhaps guava libraries to get around some java deficiency. Michal
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Michal Svoboda
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Re: [TDD] current recommendations for tdd?
What are current recommendations for tools in Java?
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Asim Jalis <asimjalis@...>
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Re: [TDD] current recommendations for tdd?
People have told you about tools, as far as practices go I would recommend Ian Cooper's video TDD Where Did It All Go Wrong, it explains how the original ideas around testing units of behaviour (as in
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paulnmackintosh
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Re: [TDD] current recommendations for tdd?
NUNit (with testcase attributes), FakeItEasy, NCrunch = awesome [testdrivendevelopment] <testdrivendevelopment@...> wrote:
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Roy Osherove
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Re: [TDD] current recommendations for tdd?
Yes, NUnit is wonderful and Moq. If you¡¯re using Visual Studio the built-in unit test framework is reasonable and well-integrated. And then add ¨C ReSharper. John D. Sent: 22 July 2014 23:00 To:
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Donaldson, John <john.m.donaldson@...>
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Re: [TDD] current recommendations for tdd?
TDD, or at least the ideas behind it, is a lot older than that. NUnit and SpecFlow are both pretty awesome. There are also a number of good mock tools: NSubstitute, Rhino, Moq, etc. You should play
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Adam Sroka
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current recommendations for tdd?
Hello, I was curious about the current state of TDD. Obviously, it's 10+ years old at this point. I wanted to find out which practices and tools are currently favored for TDD. I'm guessing that these
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andrew.d.ciccarelli@...
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[Tool] Automated functional tests
Hello folks, I created a simple opensource tool for testing user interfaces called FunTester (http://funtester.org), and I would like to hear your thoughts about it. It is a model-based testing tool,
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thiago_dp@...
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Re: [TDD] Testing a class which utilizes randomness
What does close enough mean? Can they be UUIDs and GUIDs and be "close enough"? Or do they need to be *random* and non-repeating? by separating concerns. You have string generation. You have duplicate
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Tim Ottinger
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