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Simple programs to run


Marty Bluhm
 

Good morning,
I’ve reached the point of wanting to built simple programs to learn how the different nodes interact. I found a couple on the node red web site but one doesn’t do anything while the other is a little too advanced for me at this stage.
The “dummies “ (remember them lol) books used to be great with simple building block type programs for us dummies. An in depth search indicates no dummies books for node red. Perhaps indicative that there are no “dummies” in the node red world . Lol ?
Bottom line, is there any place where I can find some sample type programs that I can use in my learning process?
Watching Kyles videos have been extremely helpful, after watching 2 to 3 times, I’m even beginning to understand him. At 81, this is a major accomplishment. Thanks Kyle.
Last but not least, thanks to the group for the welcome and the resolution of my first problem concerning the dashboard.
Hopefully, the problems encountered will be mininual.
Y’all have a good day and week.
73
Marty Bluhm
W8AKS


 

Marty,?
The breadth of what one can do with Node Red is almost infinite. When I started with Node Red about a year ago, I found it useful to tailor Node Red flows to my station starting with using existing flows that matched what I had and using that as a stepping stone for development?of new and updated flows. The group was a great resource when I started and continues to be. I don't profess to be an expert at Node Red but continue to learn as I continue to integrate my station.?

So with that, Node Red is great at managing "smart" devices (radios, amplifiers, rotors, relay modules, power switches, etc) with the underlying requirement that they can be directly or indirectly controlled via a computer (network, USB, serial, ....). Some may not be directly controlled (e.g., rotors) but with the addition of 3rd party controllers (e.g., ERC-4 rotor controller), one can take "dumb" devices and make them "smart".

It might be useful if you provide some insight into the types of devices you're planning on integrating into Node Red. Then with the group's help, we can point you at hopefully existing flows for you to try. Then you can use that as a stepping stone to move forward.

73, Ron WB2WGH

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 9:38 AM Marty Bluhm via <w8aks55=[email protected]> wrote:
Good morning,
I’ve reached the point of wanting to built simple programs to learn how the different nodes interact.? I found a couple on the node red web site but one doesn’t do anything while the other is a little too advanced for me at this stage.
The “dummies “ (remember them lol) books used to be great with simple building block type programs for us dummies. An in depth search indicates no dummies books for node red. Perhaps indicative that there are no “dummies” in the node red world . Lol ?
Bottom line, is there any place where I can find some sample type programs that I can use in my learning process?
Watching Kyles videos have been extremely helpful, after watching 2 to 3 times, I’m even beginning to understand him.? At 81, this is a major accomplishment. Thanks Kyle.
Last but not least, thanks to the group for the welcome and the resolution of my first problem concerning the dashboard.
Hopefully, the problems encountered will be mininual.
Y’all have a good day and week.
73
Marty Bluhm
W8AKS









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Ron


Marty Bluhm
 

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Thank you Ron,
Understand what you are saying.?
I guess I best sit down and figure out what I’m trying to accomplish with this.
Honestly, I haven’t really thought about it.
Like Kyle, I’m primarily a contester with POTA chasing when no contests are going.?
Currently chasing grids on 6m.?
So I’m thinking my focus is going to be on improving my ability to accomplish these goals.
Let me think about this some. Here is the current local rundown.
My station is a Kenwood TS 890 for hf work with an Ic7100 used primarily for vhf/uhf.
The towers/beams are gone sine I cannot maintain them ( no climbing decree), so that eliminates rotor control etc. ?zero five 40-10 ground plane and inverted v’s comprise the antenna farm.
The amp is also gone as it didn’t get used, however that is not to say another May show up.
Thanks again, let me crawl back into my man cave and contemplate exactly what I want to do with this.
73


Marty Bluhm
W8AKS



On Jun 28, 2022, at 9:57 AM, Ronald Panetta, WB2WGH <ron@...> wrote:

?
Marty,?
The breadth of what one can do with Node Red is almost infinite. When I started with Node Red about a year ago, I found it useful to tailor Node Red flows to my station starting with using existing flows that matched what I had and using that as a stepping stone for development?of new and updated flows. The group was a great resource when I started and continues to be. I don't profess to be an expert at Node Red but continue to learn as I continue to integrate my station.?

So with that, Node Red is great at managing "smart" devices (radios, amplifiers, rotors, relay modules, power switches, etc) with the underlying requirement that they can be directly or indirectly controlled via a computer (network, USB, serial, ....). Some may not be directly controlled (e.g., rotors) but with the addition of 3rd party controllers (e.g., ERC-4 rotor controller), one can take "dumb" devices and make them "smart".

It might be useful if you provide some insight into the types of devices you're planning on integrating into Node Red. Then with the group's help, we can point you at hopefully existing flows for you to try. Then you can use that as a stepping stone to move forward.

73, Ron WB2WGH

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 9:38 AM Marty Bluhm via <w8aks55=[email protected]> wrote:
Good morning,
I’ve reached the point of wanting to built simple programs to learn how the different nodes interact.? I found a couple on the node red web site but one doesn’t do anything while the other is a little too advanced for me at this stage.
The “dummies “ (remember them lol) books used to be great with simple building block type programs for us dummies. An in depth search indicates no dummies books for node red. Perhaps indicative that there are no “dummies” in the node red world . Lol ?
Bottom line, is there any place where I can find some sample type programs that I can use in my learning process?
Watching Kyles videos have been extremely helpful, after watching 2 to 3 times, I’m even beginning to understand him.? At 81, this is a major accomplishment. Thanks Kyle.
Last but not least, thanks to the group for the welcome and the resolution of my first problem concerning the dashboard.
Hopefully, the problems encountered will be mininual.
Y’all have a good day and week.
73
Marty Bluhm
W8AKS









--
Ron


 

Marty

I learned many of the basic Node-Red concepts by watching and learning from YouTube videos.

Then, as Ron said, downloading and understanding how others built their device-specific flows.

Alan. WA9WUD


Marty Bluhm
 

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Thank you all for your responses. Appreciate it.
Over more coffee and looking through the radios flow listing in the files section, I’ve came to a command decision.
One of the first hard lessons I learned eons ago was you did not use an operational system as developmental system or test bed.
The 890 and 7100 are doing their job and untouchable until I know what I’m doing.
Looking down the list, I see flows for a x5100 or 6100 plus a g90 qrp rigs.?
With not a lot of money to invest, perhaps finding one of these rigs on the used market and using it as a test bed until I feel confident to moving on ?to the 890 and 7100 will be the way to go.
Kyles cluster flow is extremely interesting also.
So that’s where I’m at, more video watching and learning.
I’ll back on out of here and leave y’all alone. Thanks for the help. I’ll be back with some questions I’m sure when I progress further.
Y’all have good days and week.
73 for now.
Marty Bluhm
W8AKS



On Jun 28, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Marty

I learned many of the basic Node-Red concepts by watching and learning from YouTube videos.

Then, as Ron said, downloading and understanding how others built their device-specific flows.

Alan. WA9WUD


 

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For a simple, get started flow, here is a video I did for a 4 relay control.?


I suggest you follow the WiKi to install the 32 bit OS on the Pi then follow the Readme WiKi to install extra nodes. Once that is done, you can follow the video to create the 4 relay flow. That will give you an idea on using the Node Red editor and dashboard.?

I have other videos that cover some other topics in more detail.?

73
Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jun 28, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Marty Bluhm <w8aks55@...> wrote:

?Thank you all for your responses. Appreciate it.
Over more coffee and looking through the radios flow listing in the files section, I’ve came to a command decision.
One of the first hard lessons I learned eons ago was you did not use an operational system as developmental system or test bed.
The 890 and 7100 are doing their job and untouchable until I know what I’m doing.
Looking down the list, I see flows for a x5100 or 6100 plus a g90 qrp rigs.?
With not a lot of money to invest, perhaps finding one of these rigs on the used market and using it as a test bed until I feel confident to moving on ?to the 890 and 7100 will be the way to go.
Kyles cluster flow is extremely interesting also.
So that’s where I’m at, more video watching and learning.
I’ll back on out of here and leave y’all alone. Thanks for the help. I’ll be back with some questions I’m sure when I progress further.
Y’all have good days and week.
73 for now.
Marty Bluhm
W8AKS



On Jun 28, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Marty

I learned many of the basic Node-Red concepts by watching and learning from YouTube videos.

Then, as Ron said, downloading and understanding how others built their device-specific flows.

Alan. WA9WUD


 

Check out these Node-Red produced videos.? ?They cover all the basic elements.




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Mick, W8BE