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Re: Video Frstack

 

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Hi Mike,

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Hopefully Mark or Alan can reply to help.

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Dave wo2x

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 5:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Video Frstack

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I'm stuck at FRStack as well.?
I'm installing on a pi4, and have been following Dave's 64 bit WiKi.
Pi OS installed & updated. Check.
.NET Core 5.0.1 Installed. Check.
Node Red installed. Check.
Next up: Install FRStack on RPi.
FRStack downloaded & unzipped. Check.
Next up would be to Run FRStack WebApi from a Command Line.
This is where I run into trouble.
When attempting to execute (from /usr/local/frstack):
dotnet FRStackWebApi.dll --urls ""
I get an error msg:
"bash: /usr/bin/dotnet: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error"
I ls and see all of the files.
I see the same command line in the?FRStackWebApiReadme.html file on Mark's site.
I'm sure it's user error - I just don't know where I'm messing it up.?
I downloaded the FRStackWebApiRpi.zip file as I'm running a Rpi. Should I have gotten the FRStackWebApiLinux.zip since I've got a Rpi 4 (64 bit?)?
I am not very comfortable with linux, so please go easy.
I'm kinda lost here. Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
73
Mike - AD0WB




Re: Video Frstack

 

I'm stuck at FRStack as well.?
I'm installing on a pi4, and have been following Dave's 64 bit WiKi.
Pi OS installed & updated. Check.
.NET Core 5.0.1 Installed. Check.
Node Red installed. Check.
Next up: Install FRStack on RPi.
FRStack downloaded & unzipped. Check.
Next up would be to Run FRStack WebApi from a Command Line.
This is where I run into trouble.
When attempting to execute (from /usr/local/frstack):
dotnet FRStackWebApi.dll --urls "http://*:5025"
I get an error msg:
"bash: /usr/bin/dotnet: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error"
I ls and see all of the files.
I see the same command line in the?FRStackWebApiReadme.html file on Mark's site.
I'm sure it's user error - I just don't know where I'm messing it up.?
I downloaded the FRStackWebApiRpi.zip file as I'm running a Rpi. Should I have gotten the FRStackWebApiLinux.zip since I've got a Rpi 4 (64 bit?)?
I am not very comfortable with linux, so please go easy.
I'm kinda lost here. Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
73
Mike - AD0WB





Re: Clickable Azimuthal map flow for PSTRotatorAZ

 

Tormod's range pointer flow has been one of the more popular threads we have had.

I see most of you are building the image file and then copying the result into the function.

I have not yet tried this new flow, but, I have been working with a new set of nodes that work with image files.

The "jimp-image" node will read an image file, format the file per your pre-set configuration, and send it out as a msg.xyx, or a context variable. ?One of you might be interested in combining the ability to select the desired image and then send it to Tormod's function to build the map underlay image string.

This way, you could have selectable map underlay images, for showing your rotor pointers.

Here is a link to the flows: ? ?

Alan
WA9WUD


Re: FRStack Web APIs 3.1.23.48 release using .NET5

 

Has the frequency parameter delimiter for MHz been changed from "," to "."?

I moved my memory flow from a pi running 3.1.23.48 to a linux vm running 3.1.25.53 and frequency change did not work.

On 25.53:

It works using .


On the 23.48 i get:


Video Frstack

 

Is there a youtube video of installing Node Red and FR stack on a Raspberry PI.
I used the wiki on this site and started over several times.?
I have succes with node-red intall and can experiment in node red mut the part of FRstack allways gives errors and i'm not able to install FRstack

73 Jan on8aj


Confused

 

I downloaded David's flow FlexRadiov5b1.json? flow and imported it and have it working.?

However, my confusion comes for the comment that you made saying drag the other tabs from the groups.?
All my dashboard shows is the radio and the meters nothing else.
When I transmit I get the Red Transmit.?
I do not have any other tabs to bring in and it certainly does not look like the pictures that you had in the zip file.
I do not have any other tabs to drag in that I guess I could use to integrate other functions.?
If all I have is all there is then that's fine I just do not want to be missing a step

Thank You
Eric
KZ5ED


Re: New Control Panel - N3FJP Integration

 

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Nice! Parsing is fun, isn¡¯t it?

Make use of the debug node to help see the data.?

Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jan 21, 2021, at 7:07 PM, Jason Knapton <jason@...> wrote:

?All,?
Thought I'd share my latest updates. Loving the new rotor control. Working on making it even more useful to some of our folks in our group shack. This screen will be in our group shack above the operating position so other people can see what is going on with the current op station.?
I've added a new section for QSO that connects to N3FJP API and gets the info from the entry boxes for CALL, Name, and State. This is just an early stab at it and I am going to work on pulling the entire set of text fields out and being able to work with all the data. I'm just learning the TCP IP interfaces and parsing the data that is returned.?
If anyone else has started working on it or I've missed it somewhere, I'd like to see your examples.?

Thanks for looking
Jason - KE0EJS
(new QSO info in lower right-hand corner currently. )
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New Control Panel - N3FJP Integration

 

All,?
Thought I'd share my latest updates. Loving the new rotor control. Working on making it even more useful to some of our folks in our group shack. This screen will be in our group shack above the operating position so other people can see what is going on with the current op station.?
I've added a new section for QSO that connects to N3FJP API and gets the info from the entry boxes for CALL, Name, and State. This is just an early stab at it and I am going to work on pulling the entire set of text fields out and being able to work with all the data. I'm just learning the TCP IP interfaces and parsing the data that is returned.?
If anyone else has started working on it or I've missed it somewhere, I'd like to see your examples.?

Thanks for looking
Jason - KE0EJS
(new QSO info in lower right-hand corner currently. )


Re: Looking for comments from new members using Node Red

 

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Just be careful.

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If you have Flex data going to the KAT500 full time then you will not be able to manually control the tuner. The Manual commands would get overridden by the info coming from the Flex.

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However, you can bring the Flex frequency and band info into Node Red and have a gate set up for Auto or manual mode. In Auto mode format the Flex data and pass to the KAT500. When in Manual open the gate so that the Flex does not stream info to the tuner then have manual controls set up.

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Just a thought¡­.

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73

Dave wo2x

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kyle K
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 3:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Looking for comments from new members using Node Red

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On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:59 AM, Corey Badgley KC7MRQ wrote:

I am currently testing a method to split the serial data from the Flex - KAT500 usb/serial cable so I can use Node-Red to control the tuner with both the Flex and Pi.?

I'd love to see this solution, as I'd like to do the same thing!!!!!

Kyle


Re: Looking for comments from new members using Node Red

 

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:59 AM, Corey Badgley KC7MRQ wrote:
I am currently testing a method to split the serial data from the Flex - KAT500 usb/serial cable so I can use Node-Red to control the tuner with both the Flex and Pi.?
I'd love to see this solution, as I'd like to do the same thing!!!!!

Kyle


Re: Looking for comments from new members using Node Red

 

I am relatively new to Node-Red and started using it before I found this group. It's loaded on a Pi 3 B+ with a 4 relay pi hat.
  • three relays are used to create BCD logic for an Ameritron RCS-10L antenna switch.
  • One relay is used on my Flex 6400
  • USB to-Serial is used to control my KPA500 amp
I am currently testing a method to split the serial data from the Flex - KAT500 usb/serial cable so I can use Node-Red to control the tuner with both the Flex and Pi.?

Installation was easy. Videos on YouTube and documentation on here has helped quite a bit. Having easy access to flows made it easy to learn the basics of Node-Red.?


Re: Looking for comments from new members using Node Red

 

Another item you might want to put on the "how to" wish list, and to expand on one of the points I mentioned above is how to go about starting your first flow and maybe the first things you want to think about.

1) How does it connect with NodeRed?? Serial?? Network?? Get it communicating (or at least a serial or TcP node pointed to it).??
2) First flow should probably be if you can turn the unit off/on via NodeRed.? Try the flow and verify the unit does what is expected.
3) Poll the unit for some data, maybe that's serial data to get a status of the unit.? Start small with one piece of data and work your way up.
4) Make lots of backups between small changes and develop some type of versioning system so when everything stops working, you can get back to a reset point.
5) Use the inject node to push data to the unit and verify it does what is expected (Send "change to antenna 1").
6) Learn to use the debug mode often when things go weird.
7) Research on the web examples of code.? I've learned you have to think a bit like a programmer to research how to do something on the web.? Once you get that speak correct (or click on enough links) you'll find someone has already asked the question and solved the problem.? The hardest part is probably how to ask the question so your first click is the final answer.

Spending some time looking at simple examples has helped quite a bit, but there are still simple flows that I'm confused on because I just don't have that advanced knowledge.??

Kyle
AA0Z





Re: Station Upgrades with Node Red Integration

 

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Hi Scott,

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Glad to have you on board!

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Here is a link to the LP100 flow from Al, K0VM

[email protected] | Files

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As you update equipment that has connectivity (serial, USB or network) you can consider bringing CAT info from the Elecraft K3¡¯s into Node Red, then be able to do band switching, antenna selection, etc automatically and with a graphical user interface. Node Red is not restricted just to Flex radios. I recently helped a ham interface his Icom 756 Pro III to his PalStar LA-1K amp and various software programs.

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Enjoy, experiment, and learn!

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73

Dave wo2x

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Scott Dickson
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 10:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Station Upgrades with Node Red Integration

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Hi Kyle!

I've just begun down the path for Node-Red use to integrate/remote my station.

2 x Elecraft K3

TopTenBand Decoders drive ICE-419b bandpass filters and SixPack for by-band antenna selection using CAT from the radios, so no Node-Red integration needed for that.

M2 Orion rotator and 2 x TicRing rotators, along with many remote antenna switches (some Ameritron brand) for selecting beverages and other varieties of antennas not controlled by the SixPack. I also have six stack matches to integrate.? Currently using N1MMRotator to turn the Orion, but long-term I am going to use the method documented on YouTube by VE6WZ and use PSTRotator running on a computer at the remote site?

I have not yet begun working on the manual antenna switches.

I have an LP-100A - would love to be pointed to a flow for it.? I had planned to just let it run on the local computer via a serial connection.

I use Teamview to connect to the local computer - have been doing this for a couple of weeks now, and working FT8 remotely.??

Also, my amps are all manual AL-1500, AL-1200, AL-811.? Gonna have to bite the bullet for new remote-controlled amps, OR set it up such that each is used only on a single band and use a remote-controlled relay to turn the power on/off.? Not elegant, but perhaps doable.? Will have to overcome resetting OP/STANDBY switch if trips out, as well as the need to retune on 160, 80, 40.??

--Scott W5WZ


Re: Station Upgrades with Node Red Integration

 

Hi Kyle!

I've just begun down the path for Node-Red use to integrate/remote my station.

2 x Elecraft K3

TopTenBand Decoders drive ICE-419b bandpass filters and SixPack for by-band antenna selection using CAT from the radios, so no Node-Red integration needed for that.

M2 Orion rotator and 2 x TicRing rotators, along with many remote antenna switches (some Ameritron brand) for selecting beverages and other varieties of antennas not controlled by the SixPack. I also have six stack matches to integrate.? Currently using N1MMRotator to turn the Orion, but long-term I am going to use the method documented on YouTube by VE6WZ and use PSTRotator running on a computer at the remote site?

I have not yet begun working on the manual antenna switches.

I have an LP-100A - would love to be pointed to a flow for it.? I had planned to just let it run on the local computer via a serial connection.

I use Teamview to connect to the local computer - have been doing this for a couple of weeks now, and working FT8 remotely.??

Also, my amps are all manual AL-1500, AL-1200, AL-811.? Gonna have to bite the bullet for new remote-controlled amps, OR set it up such that each is used only on a single band and use a remote-controlled relay to turn the power on/off.? Not elegant, but perhaps doable.? Will have to overcome resetting OP/STANDBY switch if trips out, as well as the need to retune on 160, 80, 40.??

--Scott W5WZ


Re: Looking for comments from new members using Node Red

 

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Today 1/20/21 WA9WUD spent a little time getting me up and running with Node Red. I am very grateful to Alan for the time he spent showing me several commands to enter. Dave he used your Flex flow to get me my first dashboard. I am both intimidate and excited to see what¡¯s coming up for me in the months and years ahead.
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73,
Ed KA9EES
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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 5:50 PM
Subject: [nodered-hamradio] Looking for comments from new members using Node Red
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Hi all

For members who are using Node Red for the first time, we are looking for simple comments on your initial experiences using Node Red.


The purpose is to show new Node Red users how easy it is to get started. Getting Node Red loaded then installing some existing flows and then customizing to your needs.


73
Dave wo2x


Re: Clickable Azimuthal map flow for PSTRotatorAZ

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 06:46 AM, Santiago Mejia wrote:
Santiago
Good to hear you have it working.
Other image sizes are possible by changing some of the function code.
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K6HN


Re: Dashboard Design Issue - Spacing

 

Alan, you mean put spacers between the W2 WATT METER and the Flex Radio group so it forces the Flex Meters group to the 2nd row, but then doesn't overlap the lower left hand corner of the Flex Radio group hanging down?

I'll see if you can complete your button idea...my only issue with that is, anybody who connects with a larger resolution, there is going to be this spacer hanging out on the dashboard, right?

Just wish NR did a better job of dynamically arranging the UI based on screen resolution.

Kyle
AA0Z


Station Upgrades with Node Red Integration

 

I live around 3 hours from a three tower M/2 contest station and have the opportunity to move my Flex down to the station full time as one of the two operating positions. The contest station just got 500Mbs fiber up/down so remote capabilities are now possible.? I'm hopeful we will get another Flex for the 2nd position in the near future.? Now I just need to purchase another Flex for my original remote station!? Lot's of Flex's in my near future.? LOL.??

As of right now, there are three hurdles that we must overcome to gain full access to the station without the amps.

Here is the setup.

One SixPack antenna switcher 2x6 with a rotary knob controller.? This controls tower what position is on what tower.? Tower 1 (6m yagi, 80M vertical, end fed), Tower 2 (40 meter beam), T3 (80M dipole, 20/15/10 Tribander, 160m diploe)



Each tower has an Ameritron RCS-4 antenna switch at the base to switch the antenna on said tower.? Rotary control box in the shack.

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Rotators are Hy-Gain.??



Power meters are LP-100A but after the 800W amp which we are not using.



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Here are my questions regarding how to control all this via Node-Red.

The LP100A is solved, as I believe there is a flow for that and it has serial on the back of the box.??

On the Six Pack antenna switcher, how do I switch that remotely?? Is that with the BandMaster box by Array Solutions?? Is there another solution?

Same question regarding the Ameritron antenna switcher.? I don't think it has serial out or I haven't seen a flow for that if I can get serial out of it.

The Hy-Gain rotators have an RS-232 kit board from Ham Supply I can purchase that brings RS-232 out the back and I'm assuming I can use another rotator node-red flow for a building block for building a new flow for the Hy-Gain.

I know this forum isn't station design, but thought some of you might have an idea on what to purchase so I can eventually control all these things with NodeRed in the future.

Thanks
Kyle
AA0Z


Re: Looking for comments from new members using Node Red

 

As a new user in the last 3 or so months and virtually no programming experience, here are some things that confused me the first time around after the install.? At first I think you very briefly go over the install of NodeRed.? The instructions on the Wiki are very good.

I don't think you get into FRStack at this time as that's a very confusing flow to load as one of the first.

What is controllable and what are the limitations of NodeRed?
What do you NOT want to control or monitor via NodeRed?

General Items
1) Loading your first flow
2) The panel layout on the right hand side and what the different tabs are
3) Installing required or useful pallets
4) How to make a backup
5) How to get to the UI after deploying your first flow
6) How to tweak the UI
?- tabs vs groups
7) How to debug and troubleshoot your flow
?- expanding debug output default

Nodes
1) What are the basic and popular nodes and their functionality (inject, switch, change, etc..) we would use in ham radio?
2) msg.payload and some background on how the nodes pass information from node to node
3) How to pass more than one payload from node to node
4) Again, more debugging and troubleshooting flows.??
5) How to disable nodes to remove them from the flow and how to disable whole tabs.

Formats
1) JSON and array data
2) Strings
3) HEX
4) How to convert data from one type to another

Connecting to devices
1) TCP
2) Serial

Dashboard
1) Overview of some of the different dashboard graphics (gauge, meters, LED, etc)
2) How to get to the dashboard
3) Column widths and how some dashboard nodes are locked vs unlocked and how to change them

How to get started with your first "from scratch node"
1) Are there basic things you should be thinking about?
2) What type of data is coming out of the device that you need to read?
3) How to inject commands back into the device via an action?
4) Are there other troubleshooting tools other than the debug node?

Good net resources to help you get unstuck on a problem?

I could probably go on and on, but I'm sure most of these topics could spawn other questions.? Problem is going down the rabbit hole once a question is asked.

Kyle
AA0Z


Re: Clickable Azimuthal map flow for PSTRotatorAZ

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 05:45 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:
For the azimuth map, once I have created it in PDF format I import it to Microsoft Word. I convert to Word document then I can delete the header info leaving just the map. I right click the map and save as PNG. Next edit the PNG file in MS Paint and resize to 500 x 500 pixels.
I decided to leave the header as a reference at hand. Another way to eliminate the header is to create the map on pdf and use snipping tool to select the desired area (no headers) and save the snip as PNG, then edit in MS Paint for resizing.

Santiago
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