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Re: File /Flex3000Flow.rtf uploaded #file-notice

 

Dave:

Hope you're feeling better. I went out for the first time in a LONG time, to pick my brother up from the airport. Had two masks on.....Fauci would approve.ha ha.
I got busy here with business stuff the past few days. I did try increasing the frequency that the inject node repeats in an attempt to make the S-meter track better. Still isn't great. I think that because the 6xxx series sends the data as a stream in UDP, it is much more responsive, but at least it's working.?

My 6400 flow (and the KPA500 and KAT500 flows I got from the repository here) all have the same issue with meters that go full-scale when the rig is turned off.
BTW, I did just make a deal on a KAT500/KPA500 combo that I will have in early March. (Now those screens won't just be a pipe dream).?

73 de Charlie KB8CR


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

Paul

I cannot help you any further because I lack knowledge of your configuration (virtual here).? Perhaps others can comment.

Another approach is to build a separate?Raspberry Pi SD card dedicated only to FRstack and Node-Red.? That is the configuration?that I have had success in configuring the SPE1.3K amp.? We can use that SD card to "eliminate" unknown?variables that other apps you are using may be causing.

I am available via ZOOM if you like to help you build a new SD Card.? Since you are in Europe, anytime between 1700 and 2200 GMT is best for both of us.

Alan

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 9:27 AM Paul Menown <pako20@...> wrote:
Virtual here is not running I only used it to check communication with the amp via the pi.. It is not in the equation when running node red or frstack.?
Paul
Gi4fzd


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

Virtual here is not running I only used it to check communication with the amp via the pi.. It is not in the equation when running node red or frstack.?
Paul
Gi4fzd


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

Paul

You have introduced new variables, which I cannot comment on all.

Your question about opening port 5025.? Not sure how that enters into your configuration.? Normally, TCP Port 5025 is used by FRstack.? Do you mean opening up port 5025 on your router?? I cannot think of any reason to do so.

How does "Virtual Here" enter into your configuration?? Are the SPE amp and the device running FRStack not connected with a USB cable, or are you using a virtual USB port?? If yes, I cannot help you with that configuration.? Or, perhaps?Virtual Here is causing the USB ports to not work alongside?FRStack using USB ports?? Others can comment on that.

??My responses to you have been based on the SPE amp connected directly to the device running FRStack via USB cable and no other apps using?or configuring the device's USB ports.

Alan?



On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 8:29 AM Paul Menown <pako20@...> wrote:
I Checked the amp firmware, it has the same date but has B_15s at the end rather than C_15s
the page advises only to update if the date is earlier so I am reluctant to update.
Not sure if that would have an impact.
Also do i need to port forward 5025 to the pi, as It just doesn't seem to be reading the usb0 port at all. Although the usb port is working if i connect via virtualhere server on the pi and run the windows client the usb control panel works perfectly.
?Almost no hair left hihi and xyl complaining about the amount of time I have spent on this..
Also I appreciate all the help from the group, mainly yourself and others.
Paul
GI4FZD


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

I Checked the amp firmware, it has the same date but has B_15s at the end rather than C_15s
the page advises only to update if the date is earlier so I am reluctant to update.
Not sure if that would have an impact.
Also do i need to port forward 5025 to the pi, as It just doesn't seem to be reading the usb0 port at all. Although the usb port is working if i connect via virtualhere server on the pi and run the windows client the usb control panel works perfectly.
?Almost no hair left hihi and xyl complaining about the amount of time I have spent on this..
Also I appreciate all the help from the group, mainly yourself and others.
Paul
GI4FZD


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

Paul

And, just in case you are not doing so, shutdown and restart FRstack?after making config file changes.? Following the restart command, verify FRStack starts up.

Shutdown. ? ?sudo systemctl stop FRStackWebApi

Restart. ?sudo systemctl start FRStackWebApi

Status. ??systemctl status FRStackWebApi


Alan

On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 7:09 AM Alan Blind, WA9WUD via <a.alan.blind=[email protected]> wrote:
Paul

Also, verify that FRStack is running by running the command:

systemctl status FRStackWebApi

Alan


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

Paul

Also, verify that FRStack is running by running the command:

systemctl status FRStackWebApi

Alan


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

Paul

Try using the default USB port path.? This will work if you have one USB cable.? Debian will assign USB0 to the first cable and then each additional cable in sequence:

/dev/ttyUSB0

Did you verify your SPE1.3 Firmware is up to date?

If this does not work, can you send us a screenshot or duplicate of your appsettings.json file?

Alan


On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 6:54 AM Paul Menown <pako20@...> wrote:
I updated to FRStackWebApiRPi_3_1_27_56
Still getting the following error, (it doesn't seem to matter whether set at true or false in the appsettings)
24 Feb 11:46:35 - [warn] [http request:GetSPEINFO] JSON parse error

Paul
GI4FZD


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

I updated to FRStackWebApiRPi_3_1_27_56
Still getting the following error, (it doesn't seem to matter whether set at true or false in the appsettings)
24 Feb 11:46:35 - [warn] [http request:GetSPEINFO] JSON parse error

Paul
GI4FZD


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

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I will be releasing an update to FRStackWebApi shortly for all platforms.

This updates the SPE Amp serial port logic to address an issue that showed up when I switched to .NET 5.

In the meantime RPi 32bit users can download?

?

73,

Mark

W3II

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From: Alan Blind, WA9WUD
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 5:22 PM
To: [email protected] Group Moderators
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

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Paul

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Com?looks good.

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I would next try making "SPEProtocolV1". ? "false"

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I am not knowledgeable on all aspects of the SPE versions, but I have set up three other hams with SPE1.3K amps and we used "false" in all cases. (for the 1.3K).

?

Last, check that you have the latest firmware for the amp.? It needs to be the latest version.

?

Alan

WA9WUD

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Alna

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On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 4:50 PM Paul Menown <pako20@...> wrote:

Here is my Appsettings.

?"SvcConfig": {

? ? "AutoConnect": "true",

? ? "initRadioName": null,

? ? "initClientName": null,

? ? "MRUMatchDelta": "0.000999",

? ? "FollowActiveSlice": "true",

? ? "MuteOthersOnSliceActive": "false",

? ? "EnableTxOnSliceActive": "false",

? ? "TempUnitInF": "true",

? ? "PgxlTuneStandby": "true", // this will set AMP to STANDBY when TUNE is activated

? ? "PgxlModeRestore": "true", // this will return AMP to OPERATE after TUNE complete

? ? "PgxlRadioMaxPower": "50", // this is MAX radio power level when AMP is OPERATE

? ? "PgxlRadioStandbyPower": "100", // this is MAX radio power level when AMP is STANDBY

? ? "PGXLOnAntenna": "0", // 0 or 1 or 2; 0 for both, 1 for ANT1, 2 for ANT2

? ? "RCATXACCTuneDisable": "false",

? ? "RCATX1TuneDisable": "false",

? ? "RCATX2TuneDisable": "false",

? ? "RCATX3TuneDisable": "false",

? ? "RadioTuneModeDetect": "true", // this is set true if you want to detect a Radio Tune button push, remember to set TX Delay on radio

? ? "SPEComPort": "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-FTDI_USB_Serial_Converter_FTGCBLZT-if00-port0", // this is the Serial device for SPE AMP Control port (Not the CAT port)

? ? "SPETuneStandby": "false", // this will set SPE to STANDBY when TUNE is activated

? ? "SPEModeRestore": "false", // this will return SPE to OPERATE after TUNE complete

? ? "SPEOnAntenna": "0", // 0 or 1 or 2; 0 for both, 1 for ANT1, 2 for ANT2

? ? "SPEUseDTR": "false", // this will set DTR to power up amp

? ? "SPEProtocolV1": "true", // this is set true for SPE V1 amps

? ? "SPEAutoOpen": "false", // this is set true to OPEN SPE after connecting to radio

? ? "SteppIRComPort": ",9600,None,One,0,false,true,1,2", // port,baud,parity,stop,FollowAntInt,EnabledBool,SyncManualBool,AntTxInhibitInt,AntType eg. "/dev/ttyUSB0,9600,None,One,0,true,true,1,1"

? ? "FDXProtect": "false,false,false,false,false,false", // enabled,ant1,ant2,rxa,rxb,wide

? ? "UDPSettings": "false,255.255.255.255,12070,false,127.0.0.1,12071,false,127.0.0.1,12072,false,127.0.0.1,12073", // enabled,IPADDR,PORT, enabled,IPADDR,PORT, enabled,IPADDR,PORT, enabled,IPADDR,PORT?

? ? "UDPMeterSettings": "false,255.255.255.255,12270,false", // enabled,IPADDR,PORT,SMeterEnabled

? ? "ModeSetsDax": "0", // 0 - Disable, 1 - turn DAX on when mode is DIGL/H, 2 - turn DAX off if not DIGL/H, 3 - both

? ? "CustomFunctions": "",

?

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Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

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My amp is also a series 1 but that does not matter as it is a 1.3K so it uses the same protocol for all 1.3, 1.5 and 2.0 models.

?

Mark

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From: Paul Menown
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 4:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

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Mark, if you check here???
you will see there are manuals and firmware for first and second series of the 1.3k-FA
mine is the first series which included 4meter band.
? Paul
GI4FZD

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Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

Paul

Regarding "unused configuration nodes". ?That is a housekeeping item only. ?It Will not affect the functioning of your flow.

I like to "delete" "unused configuration nodes" from time to time to eliminate those annoying messages.

Alan


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

Paul

Com?looks good.

I would next try making "SPEProtocolV1". ? "false"

I am not knowledgeable on all aspects of the SPE versions, but I have set up three other hams with SPE1.3K amps and we used "false" in all cases. (for the 1.3K).

Last, check that you have the latest firmware for the amp.? It needs to be the latest version.

Alan
WA9WUD

Alna


On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 4:50 PM Paul Menown <pako20@...> wrote:
Here is my Appsettings.
?"SvcConfig": {
? ? "AutoConnect": "true",
? ? "initRadioName": null,
? ? "initClientName": null,
? ? "MRUMatchDelta": "0.000999",
? ? "FollowActiveSlice": "true",
? ? "MuteOthersOnSliceActive": "false",
? ? "EnableTxOnSliceActive": "false",
? ? "TempUnitInF": "true",
? ? "PgxlTuneStandby": "true", // this will set AMP to STANDBY when TUNE is activated
? ? "PgxlModeRestore": "true", // this will return AMP to OPERATE after TUNE complete
? ? "PgxlRadioMaxPower": "50", // this is MAX radio power level when AMP is OPERATE
? ? "PgxlRadioStandbyPower": "100", // this is MAX radio power level when AMP is STANDBY
? ? "PGXLOnAntenna": "0", // 0 or 1 or 2; 0 for both, 1 for ANT1, 2 for ANT2
? ? "RCATXACCTuneDisable": "false",
? ? "RCATX1TuneDisable": "false",
? ? "RCATX2TuneDisable": "false",
? ? "RCATX3TuneDisable": "false",
? ? "RadioTuneModeDetect": "true", // this is set true if you want to detect a Radio Tune button push, remember to set TX Delay on radio
? ? "SPEComPort": "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-FTDI_USB_Serial_Converter_FTGCBLZT-if00-port0", // this is the Serial device for SPE AMP Control port (Not the CAT port)
? ? "SPETuneStandby": "false", // this will set SPE to STANDBY when TUNE is activated
? ? "SPEModeRestore": "false", // this will return SPE to OPERATE after TUNE complete
? ? "SPEOnAntenna": "0", // 0 or 1 or 2; 0 for both, 1 for ANT1, 2 for ANT2
? ? "SPEUseDTR": "false", // this will set DTR to power up amp
? ? "SPEProtocolV1": "true", // this is set true for SPE V1 amps
? ? "SPEAutoOpen": "false", // this is set true to OPEN SPE after connecting to radio
? ? "SteppIRComPort": ",9600,None,One,0,false,true,1,2", // port,baud,parity,stop,FollowAntInt,EnabledBool,SyncManualBool,AntTxInhibitInt,AntType eg. "/dev/ttyUSB0,9600,None,One,0,true,true,1,1"
? ? "FDXProtect": "false,false,false,false,false,false", // enabled,ant1,ant2,rxa,rxb,wide
? ? "UDPSettings": "false,255.255.255.255,12070,false,127.0.0.1,12071,false,127.0.0.1,12072,false,127.0.0.1,12073", // enabled,IPADDR,PORT, enabled,IPADDR,PORT, enabled,IPADDR,PORT, enabled,IPADDR,PORT?
? ? "UDPMeterSettings": "false,255.255.255.255,12270,false", // enabled,IPADDR,PORT,SMeterEnabled
? ? "ModeSetsDax": "0", // 0 - Disable, 1 - turn DAX on when mode is DIGL/H, 2 - turn DAX off if not DIGL/H, 3 - both
? ? "CustomFunctions": "",
?


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

Here is my Appsettings.
?"SvcConfig": {
? ? "AutoConnect": "true",
? ? "initRadioName": null,
? ? "initClientName": null,
? ? "MRUMatchDelta": "0.000999",
? ? "FollowActiveSlice": "true",
? ? "MuteOthersOnSliceActive": "false",
? ? "EnableTxOnSliceActive": "false",
? ? "TempUnitInF": "true",
? ? "PgxlTuneStandby": "true", // this will set AMP to STANDBY when TUNE is activated
? ? "PgxlModeRestore": "true", // this will return AMP to OPERATE after TUNE complete
? ? "PgxlRadioMaxPower": "50", // this is MAX radio power level when AMP is OPERATE
? ? "PgxlRadioStandbyPower": "100", // this is MAX radio power level when AMP is STANDBY
? ? "PGXLOnAntenna": "0", // 0 or 1 or 2; 0 for both, 1 for ANT1, 2 for ANT2
? ? "RCATXACCTuneDisable": "false",
? ? "RCATX1TuneDisable": "false",
? ? "RCATX2TuneDisable": "false",
? ? "RCATX3TuneDisable": "false",
? ? "RadioTuneModeDetect": "true", // this is set true if you want to detect a Radio Tune button push, remember to set TX Delay on radio
? ? "SPEComPort": "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-FTDI_USB_Serial_Converter_FTGCBLZT-if00-port0", // this is the Serial device for SPE AMP Control port (Not the CAT port)
? ? "SPETuneStandby": "false", // this will set SPE to STANDBY when TUNE is activated
? ? "SPEModeRestore": "false", // this will return SPE to OPERATE after TUNE complete
? ? "SPEOnAntenna": "0", // 0 or 1 or 2; 0 for both, 1 for ANT1, 2 for ANT2
? ? "SPEUseDTR": "false", // this will set DTR to power up amp
? ? "SPEProtocolV1": "true", // this is set true for SPE V1 amps
? ? "SPEAutoOpen": "false", // this is set true to OPEN SPE after connecting to radio
? ? "SteppIRComPort": ",9600,None,One,0,false,true,1,2", // port,baud,parity,stop,FollowAntInt,EnabledBool,SyncManualBool,AntTxInhibitInt,AntType eg. "/dev/ttyUSB0,9600,None,One,0,true,true,1,1"
? ? "FDXProtect": "false,false,false,false,false,false", // enabled,ant1,ant2,rxa,rxb,wide
? ? "UDPSettings": "false,255.255.255.255,12070,false,127.0.0.1,12071,false,127.0.0.1,12072,false,127.0.0.1,12073", // enabled,IPADDR,PORT, enabled,IPADDR,PORT, enabled,IPADDR,PORT, enabled,IPADDR,PORT?
? ? "UDPMeterSettings": "false,255.255.255.255,12270,false", // enabled,IPADDR,PORT,SMeterEnabled
? ? "ModeSetsDax": "0", // 0 - Disable, 1 - turn DAX on when mode is DIGL/H, 2 - turn DAX off if not DIGL/H, 3 - both
? ? "CustomFunctions": "",
?


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

Hi Alan,
I have pasted the by-id into the appsettings file it now reads?/dev/serial/by-id/usb-FTDI_USB_Serial_Converter_FTGCBLZT-if00-port0? ?but I am still not getting anything as far as information from the amp. I get the message there are some unused configuration nodes when i deploy when i check for unused nodes it says 2 hidden beside the spe Amp. Do i need to put any info in the SPEINFOUrl ?


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

Mark, if you check here???
you will see there are manuals and firmware for first and second series of the 1.3k-FA
mine is the first series which included 4meter band.
? Paul
GI4FZD


Re: FRstack WEB Interface

 

Mark

That¡¯s too bad. It should reply some text. The Windows version has a hook into smartlink selection. Impossible for me to connect remotely.

73, Marty




On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 12:52 PM, Mark Hanson <mkcmsoftware@...> wrote:

It is replying while disconnected otherwise you would get an error. Its reply is a n empty string.

Connect to a radio to see a populated object.

Mark
W3II


Re: FRstack SWR Meter issue

 

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Having the SWR show last value when in receive is actually a good thing in my mind. If I happen to not notice during TX that the SWR is creeping up but glance during RX I know I can check it, otherwise I need to be watching during TX.?

If anyone wants meters zeroed during receive or TX (such as Flex 3000/5000 S meter) I am willing to help show how to do it. Just look at my KPA1500 flow and FlexRadio v6 flows as I am zeroing meters when amp is off or clients are disconnected.?

I am glad to see many of you using the available flows as learning tools and either building tour own flows from scratch or modifying and enhancing existing flows.?

One good example is what Conny Jonsson did to my Antenna Genius 2x8 flow. He added capability to support a stack of 4 switches plus reading antenna names direct from the switches. Very cool stuff! Conny is talented ;-)

I spent about an hour the other night on the phone with Charlie helping him with a few things and his Flex 3000 flow. He finished up a very nice flow.?

I working on a couple of things for Simon S53ZO that he wants to implement at S53M contest station (I worked them this weekend).?

If anyone else needs assistance please reach out. Alan WA9WUD uses and knows the FRStack implementation quite well and he has also made himself available to help.?

We¡¯ve had quite a number of new members join this group over the last month. I will be doing an overview presentation of Node Red and Ham Radio for the upcoming QSO Today virtual ham fest in a few weeks. I also think once I get that presentation squared away maybe we can do another Zoom meeting to go over some areas that you, the members may like to see covered.?

One subject is I see data but what do I do with it? ¡°It is not in the right format¡± or ¡°I need just part of it¡±. ?There are several ways to do parsing, or extracting the data. I think a Zoom session to show how to extract info and format it from a particular device would be nice to show the concept behind parsing. A lot of what I have learned has come from reading, loading sample flows, and watching YouTube videos.?

Sorry to ramble on, nap time now. Worked on our County mobile command center this
Morning. I designed quite a bit of the communications systems on board so they asked for my guidance to help one of their techs (I am now retired so
Always looking for things to keep my mind sharp). ?The vehicle is quite cool. We can do full radio dispatch and 9-1-1 call taking right from the vehicle in an emergency. We¡¯ve actually deployed the vehicle for just that reason when my current town received a suspicious white powder in the mail and they evacuated the police station.?

73 all and welcome to the new members!

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Feb 23, 2021, at 9:05 AM, Marty Boroff via groups.io <m_boroff@...> wrote:

? Why not save the value in a global. If the next value is the same do nothing. If radio is on receive zero the meter.

Or something like that.

73, Marty WD9GYM?




On Tuesday, February 23, 2021, 8:01 AM, Stan Mason <mason.jstan@...> wrote:

When I first finished and tested my flows I also thought that the SWR reading not returning 0 during receive was a flaw, but after using the flows while operating I now think of it as a feature. I would vote not to modify how FRS handles the SWR meter.

My FLEX/FRS flows are written from scratch after playing with and learning from the great flows provided by Dave, Alan, and others. But, the flow I¡¯m using for the KPA500 is, with the exception of some formatting changes, being used as downloaded. ?I¡¯m planning on editing that flow to not zero the SWR meter after going to receive.

73
Stan, K3PW


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

I have to ask about "set the SPEProtocolV1 to true as it is an early version of the 1.3K-FA".
To my knowledge the V1 protocol should only be used by SPE V1 AMP.
What is an "early version of the 1.3K-FA" mean?
Do you have the protocol spec for this variant?

Mark
W3II


Re: Frstack running fine until I enable the SPE part

 

Paul

Your path looks good, except paste in the path to the "by-id" link of the FTDI cable.

This is what my FTDI cable looks like.? Your FTDI cable number will be different.

/dev/serial/by-id/usb-FTDI_UT232R_FT44JLEC-if00-port0

Alan


On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 1:26 PM Paul Menown <pako20@...> wrote:
I have my expert connected to usb port on the Raspberrypi I get this from /dev/serial/by-path...... /dev/serial/by-path/platform-fd500000.pcie-pci-0000:01:00.0-usb-0:1.3:1.0-port0 I have entered that to the SPEComPort in appsettings.json and set the SPEProtocolV1 to true as it is an early version of the 1.3K-FA .I get The following warning from the node-red console [http request:GetSPINFO]? JSON parse error, if I disable the spe flow the error disappears. What am I missing?
Everything else in the frstack flow appears to be working as far as flex control meters etc. The expert is working fine via the FTDI serial cable with windows.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers
Paul