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Newbie NanoVNA question regarding calibration
HA!! Didn't know I could do that!!
Here at the pics. The green lines are moving. Thanks!! ![]()
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try to do your sweeps with some averaging (means more points/values per measure point are takern and interpolated) ... that make the curves more even
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you even can do the calib with high avg .. and measure then with lower avg (on none at all) are your connectors tight?? what cable do you use?? are those values jumping around if you move cables a bit (wiggle on them)??? that you have those waves at the lower end and straight lines on the rest of the scan is not normal dg9bfc sigi Am 30.08.2022 um 19:11 schrieb TE Dukes: Thanks!! |
Here at the pics. The green lines are moving.You have no trace information or markers displayed. See the orange box below to see what I mean. If you did a software update you might need to do a Clear Config to flush out the old settings. It is under the expert settings and if you need a password it is 1234 Roger |
Not seeing my post after changing the range. I'll post the pics again.
That seems to correct the issue. Thanks!! ![]()
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I appreciate all the help with this!! I apologize that I don't know a lot of the terminology for this nanovna.
I'm still not certain if there is an issue with the nanovna itself. If you suspect one, then I probably need to return this unit. Can anyone can recommend a brand/model that is known to be a good unit? I know this is a clone but even with clones, there are some better than others. Again, thanks!! |
As I understand it, he threshold setting changes where the internal generator switches from fundamental to harmonic mode or similar. The threshold you are setting will depend upon the capability of your devices's chip to oscillate beyond its specs; some will go above the default 300MHz and some only as high as 280MHz . The idea as I understand it is to reduce the threshold setting until you get a clean sweep on both sides of the threshold point.
73, Don N2VGU. |
On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 12:59 PM, TE Dukes wrote:
OK it works at lower frequencies so we know the problem. It is what DiSlord described in his posts. The 5351 Clock chip used in the nanoVNA is only guaranteed to 200 MHz but it usually works up to 300 MHz. Some don't so the maximum frequency threshold is lowered in one of the menu options. You change it here >> CONFIG->EXPERT SETTING->THRESHOLD After you change it you do CONFIG->SAVE CONFIG I suggest you try 280 MHz and then calibrate from 50 kHz to 900 MHz and see if you get the dots in the right place for short, open and load. If that works slowly increase from 280 (recalibrating each time) until it fails again and then back off by 2 or 3 MHz. Roger |
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It looks like you are having the dreaded Clock Generator instability around 300MHz. You can see the spurs around 300 and 600MHz on the yellow traces in your photos. The basic design of the NanoVNA severely overclocks the 5351 Clock Gen chip which is only specced to 200MHz max. Some chips just can't make it to 300MHz, especially the Chinese knockoffs. Go into your configuration and look for something called THRESHOLD. It will be 300MHz at present. Change this to 280MHz. Clear all your existing calibration data and recalibrate. This should fix your problem. I have a Deepelec unit so I can't give you the exact menu steps for your unit. There is a Menu Map available elsewhere on this group, just follow the path to the THRESHOLD item. Good luck....Bob VK2ZRE On 31/08/2022 4:50 am, TE Dukes wrote:
HA!! Didn't know I could do that!! |
Got it working !!!
I had decided to send this back to Amazon and try another in case I may have gotten a bad one. I flashed the 'original' Hugen FW back but must have used a newer version by mistake. Everything is working and I can do more than 101p. Don't understand why one FW works and another doesn't. On Hugen's github, it mentions synchronizing with DiSlord FW. IDK but it is working!! Thanks!!!!!!! |
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 05:40 AM, TE Dukes wrote:
Glad you got it working. A few questions. 1. What Hugen version are you running now? 2. Did you use the NanoVNA-H4-MS or NanoVNA-H4-SI version? The SI version is for the original clock chip which is hard to get now. The MS version is for the Chinese clone clock chip which Hugen is using in recent production. There is a label on the back of Hugen's H4 which has an M for the Chinese version clock chip. Roger Roger |
Hi Roger,
Mine is marked HW version 4.3 MS on the back. I used NanoVNA-H4-MS_20220831.dfu from Hugen's github page. Thought that was the version that was on it when I got it since the description on Amazon said updated 2022 version. Glad I installed the 'wrong' one, LOL! Really appreciate your help!! Maybe if I had mention I had the MS version it would have been easier to fix the issue. Thanks!!!! |
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