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NanoVNA-App SWR graph does not match H4 graph
I am using a NanoVNA H4 and NanoVNA-App for SWR display. I connected my end fed half wave antenna to the CNA and compared the two graphical displays. Both the NanoVNA and H4 displays were set for identical SWR and frequency ranges (1:1 to 3:1 and 1-30Mhz).
The difference in displays is dramatic (ie 3Mhz. 2.1:1 vs over 3:1 SWR). Has anyone observed a difference between the H4 and external display software. I would appreciate any comments. Bob, KN4HH |
When connected to the PC or laptop, the effective counterpoise is much
longer than when not connected. The counterpoise consists of anything connected to the measuring unit, including the laptop/PC through the USB cable. There is nothing wrong with either measurement. You must electrically remove the "extension" of the counterpoise when connected to the PC/laptop. Dave - W?LEV On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 3:05?PM Bob Watson via groups.io <kn4hhptc= [email protected]> wrote: I am using a NanoVNA H4 and NanoVNA-App for SWR display. I connected my-- *Dave - W?LEV* -- Dave - W?LEV |
Last night I was measuring a high Q resonant circuit on the bench with Nano VNA on battery. The battery was getting low and without physically moving anything I connected a USB cable from Nano VNA to laptop a few feet away. The measurement moved just a bit. Not a cause for concern because it makes sense. Consider this a benefit of the tiny battery powered Nano VNA. A measurement can be made with minimal impact on the device under test.
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On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 08:50 AM, Greg Strickland wrote:
Performance/measurements of the NanoVNA might change slightly with battery level. Try making the same standalone measurement with a full battery. Roger |
Dave, I understand your point about the counterpoise extension. However, I would think that the SWR readings would shift the same for both displays. What am I missing.
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Bob, KN4HH On Aug 25, 2023, at 11:18 AM, W0LEV <davearea51a@...> wrote: |
QUOTE: Consider this a benefit of the tiny battery powered Nano VNA. A
measurement can be made with minimal impact on the device under test. Indeed. You hit the nail on squarely on the head. Consider the HP 8753C with the S-Parameter test set. It weight in around 100+ lbs. I can not use it with anything that requires a counterpoise or isolation from the instrument as its too large, sits on a metal shelf, and is connected to the power grid: a MAJOR increase in any counterpoise. The NANOVNAs allow me to make measurments that the 8753C really can not make. However, when one needs to measure at or above our 70-cm band, the size of the NANOs become significant. Dave - W?LEV On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 3:50?PM Greg Strickland <greg@...> wrote: Last night I was measuring a high Q resonant circuit on the bench with-- *Dave - W?LEV* -- Dave - W?LEV |
If the displays are different while doing a measurement, it is very likely
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a calibration issue. Nanovna-app allows you to select the vna calibration or the app calibration. Make sure that is set to vna to compare traces. Note that the app receives the same exact s11 data that the nano uses for display, so if the displays are different, there is a difference in the calibration or display settings between the two. On Fri, Aug 25, 2023, 10:42 AM W0LEV <davearea51a@...> wrote:
QUOTE: Consider this a benefit of the tiny battery powered Nano VNA. A |
Thank you, Stan. That makes perfect sense. I was not aware that calibration sources could be different. I will check that option.
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Thanks again, Bob, KN4HH On Aug 25, 2023, at 3:50 PM, Stan Dye <standye@...> wrote: |
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