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I have a ratchet crimp connector and can install various types of terminations. But what tool(s) do the pros use to strip coax? Any suggestions?
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On 9/21/21 9:57 AM, kk7xo via groups.io wrote: I have a ratchet crimp connector and can install various types of terminations. But what tool(s) do the pros use to strip coax? Any suggestions?
One of those multiblade spin around the coax I've used a Paladin CST for decades.
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On 9/21/21 10:17 AM, Jim Lux wrote: On 9/21/21 9:57 AM, kk7xo via groups.io wrote:
I have a ratchet crimp connector and can install various types of terminations.? But what tool(s) do the pros use to strip coax?? Any suggestions?
One of those multiblade spin around the coax
I've used a Paladin CST for decades. I tried to find some catalog info, but you need to dig through distributors pages.. There's different flavors of these things. 2 and 3 level stripping, adjustable or not, whether are not you handle just one size of coax or multiples, etc. The 2 level, fixed size coax ones are cheapest ($20-30), the fancy ones have cassettes that you can swap in if you regularly use multiple sizes of coax.
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For instance, this is still a work in progress, but, for RG-8x:
BNC Connectors from HRO: Lands Precision BNC-10Z-DGN
N-type for RG-8x: (Silver) and (nickel)
Strip Tool: LP HT-322
Crimp Tool: LP DL-801G
Go together well.
The same tooling works with RG-58 and LP BNC-10F-DGN
Note that while the stripper is nearly perfect for RG-8x BNCs, it might require a little fidding for the other cables and connectors. The LP spec sheets show a wide range of strip lengths, and even LP doesn't sell the appropriate strip tooling. Go figure.
YMMV.
73, Willie N1JBJ
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On Sep 21, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Jim Lux <jim@...> wrote:
On 9/21/21 10:17 AM, Jim Lux wrote:
On 9/21/21 9:57 AM, kk7xo via groups.io wrote:
I have a ratchet crimp connector and can install various types of terminations. But what tool(s) do the pros use to strip coax? Any suggestions?
One of those multiblade spin around the coax
I've used a Paladin CST for decades.
I tried to find some catalog info, but you need to dig through distributors pages..
There's different flavors of these things. 2 and 3 level stripping, adjustable or not, whether are not you handle just one size of coax or multiples, etc.
The 2 level, fixed size coax ones are cheapest ($20-30), the fancy ones have cassettes that you can swap in if you regularly use multiple sizes of coax.
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On 9/21/21 11:14 AM, William Smith wrote: For instance, this is still a work in progress, but, for RG-8x:
BNC Connectors from HRO: Lands Precision BNC-10Z-DGN
N-type for RG-8x: (Silver) and (nickel)
Strip Tool: LP HT-322
Crimp Tool: LP DL-801G
Go together well.
The same tooling works with RG-58 and LP BNC-10F-DGN
Note that while the stripper is nearly perfect for RG-8x BNCs, it might require a little fidding for the other cables and connectors. The LP spec sheets show a wide range of strip lengths, and even LP doesn't sell the appropriate strip tooling. Go figure.
YMMV. That's why I eventually got the fancy adjustable one.? I had a single purpose for crimp on to RG58 for thinnet networks, worked great. But didn't quite work for other sizes. With the adjustments, I could fiddle with it until it was perfect for the connectors I had and the coax I had. They work up to about 1/2" diameter as long as it's a smooth shield. They won't work on corrugated shields (although I'm sure someone makes a stripper for that) It's kind of like the (wretchedly expensive) tools for semirigid and SMA connectors.? Get the right tool set up right, and you can crank out dozens of cables in a day, all perfect.
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It depends what you mean by pro. While I was working for a cable provider the service men used cheap tools like these: I usually use the first one for small diameter coax as it is much faster than adjusting the second one. For larger diameter coax, pipe cutter with a sharp blade works great. This style: Also get cable cutter pliers, especially when cutting larger diameter cable. Once you try it you'll newer go back to usual wire cutters that mangle up the dielectric and center lead. Something like this, but these are usually cheaper to get locally then on AliExpress: On Tue, 21 Sept 2021 at 18:57, kk7xo via groups.io <kk7xo= [email protected]> wrote: I have a ratchet crimp connector and can install various types of
terminations. But what tool(s) do the pros use to strip coax? Any
suggestions?
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It would depend on what coax you are working with. Lately I've been using RG316, quite by accident I discovered that I can neatly remove the outer jacket with my Ideal strippers by using the 14AWG gate, carefully close the gate and stop just before the strippers start to pull the wire through the gate, release pressure on the handles, when possible rotate the cable 90 deg, repeat. Use your thumb nail to slide the jacket off. Now I cannot attest that there is no damage to the shielding, my eyes are 70 years old but I use magnifiers and I haven't noticed any shield strands coming adrift. Hope this helps someone. John VE7KKQ On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 11:57 AM Dragan Milivojevic <d.milivojevic@...> wrote: It depends what you mean by pro.
While I was working for a cable provider the service men
used cheap tools like these:
I usually use the first one for small diameter coax as it is much
faster than adjusting the second one.
For larger diameter coax, pipe cutter with a sharp blade works
great. This style:
Also get cable cutter pliers, especially when cutting larger diameter
cable.
Once you try it you'll newer go back to usual wire cutters that mangle up
the
dielectric and center lead. Something like this, but these are usually
cheaper
to get locally then on AliExpress:
On Tue, 21 Sept 2021 at 18:57, kk7xo via groups.io <kk7xo=
[email protected]> wrote:
I have a ratchet crimp connector and can install various types of
terminations. But what tool(s) do the pros use to strip coax? Any
suggestions?
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Hey Jim,
Do you have a pointer to the fancy adjustable one? I've been having a hard time finding anything other than 2 and 3 blade non-adjustable ones
73, Willie N1JBJ
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On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Jim Lux <jim@...> wrote:
the fancy adjustable one
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3 blades cut jacket, shield,dielectric. I enjoy mine.
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On Tuesday, September 21, 2021, 04:20:47 PM EDT, William Smith <w_smith@...> wrote: Hey Jim, Do you have a pointer to the fancy adjustable one?? I've been having a hard time finding anything other than 2 and 3 blade non-adjustable ones 73, Willie N1JBJ On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Jim Lux <jim@...> wrote:
the fancy adjustable one
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On 9/21/21 1:20 PM, William Smith wrote: Hey Jim,
Do you have a pointer to the fancy adjustable one? I've been having a hard time finding anything other than 2 and 3 blade non-adjustable ones
73, Willie N1JBJ Paladin CST Pro looks like it On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Jim Lux <jim@...> wrote:
the fancy adjustable one
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OK, that's adjustable for different jacket/braid/dielectric/center diameters, do you have to swap the cartridge for different strip lengths?
73, Willie N1JBJ
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On Sep 21, 2021, at 4:58 PM, Jim Lux <jim@...> wrote:
On 9/21/21 1:20 PM, William Smith wrote:
Hey Jim,
Do you have a pointer to the fancy adjustable one? I've been having a hard time finding anything other than 2 and 3 blade non-adjustable ones
73, Willie N1JBJ Paladin CST Pro
looks like it
On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Jim Lux <jim@...> wrote:
the fancy adjustable one
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On 9/21/21 2:05 PM, William Smith wrote: OK, that's adjustable for different jacket/braid/dielectric/center diameters, do you have to swap the cartridge for different strip lengths?
73, Willie N1JBJ
yes and no. There's a bunch of "slots" into which the blade drops to adjust the "length". Then the hex screw sets the depth. If you're using two kinds of strips consistently, then getting extra cassettes is useful. I just used to keep notes on where to put the blade, and how many turns of the hex for each one. And eventually, the blade does get dull (esp the one cutting the shield in the middle). On Sep 21, 2021, at 4:58 PM, Jim Lux <jim@...> wrote:
On 9/21/21 1:20 PM, William Smith wrote:
Hey Jim,
Do you have a pointer to the fancy adjustable one? I've been having a hard time finding anything other than 2 and 3 blade non-adjustable ones
73, Willie N1JBJ Paladin CST Pro
looks like it
On Sep 21, 2021, at 2:56 PM, Jim Lux <jim@...> wrote:
the fancy adjustable one
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$23.99 ???? for a tool that usually costs a few bucks
in any network equipment store, not to mention the usual Chinese
vendors on Ali and Ebay.
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On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 14:58, RandMental <randmental@...> wrote: I bought these for RG213 and RG58 - Don¡¯t waste your money
Still using a carpet knife and side cutter!
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I have bought strip tools from Banggood.com instead of Ham Radio Outlet. Granted they take 3-4 weeks but they were like $1.65 USD.. I always order multiples as if ordering one and waiting a month it's broken is counterproductive.
The ones i get have a "plug" you can rotate for RG-174, RG-58/59, RG-6U/RG8X, or RG8/9913 that sets razor blade depth..
I surplus my extras- at ham fests for a $1 more. or as "door prizes" at Club meetings trading them for tickets in the 50/50 raffle.. winner gets a whole, not a half of the stripper..
Always demand the whole stripper... This is true even if not a ham..
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Got a link to those Coax Strippers ? I searched Banggood and all I got were a lot more expensive !! 73, Dick, W1KSZ ________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Larry Macionski via groups.io <am_fm_radio@...> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:01 AM To: [email protected] < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Stripping Coax I have bought strip tools from Banggood.com instead of Ham Radio Outlet. Granted they take 3-4 weeks but they were like $1.65 USD.. I always order multiples as if ordering one and waiting a month it's broken is counterproductive. The ones i get have a "plug" you can rotate for RG-174, RG-58/59, RG-6U/RG8X, or RG8/9913 that sets razor blade depth.. I surplus my extras- at ham fests for a $1 more. or as "door prizes" at Club meetings trading them for tickets in the 50/50 raffle.. winner gets a whole, not a half of the stripper.. Always demand the whole stripper... This is true even if not a ham..
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Hi, Larry,
Any chance of a link or name? I've looked on Bangood and found a "universal" coax stripper which could be useful but only goes down to 3.2mm. I use a lot of RG176/4 which is much thinner. The one you describe with the plug seems ideal for my use.
Thanks - Michael.
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On 23/09/2021 18:01, Larry Macionski via groups.io wrote: I have bought strip tools from Banggood.com instead of Ham Radio Outlet. Granted they take 3-4 weeks but they were like $1.65 USD.. I always order multiples as if ordering one and waiting a month it's broken is counterproductive.
The ones i get have a "plug" you can rotate for RG-174, RG-58/59, RG-6U/RG8X, or RG8/9913 that sets razor blade depth..
I surplus my extras- at ham fests for a $1 more. or as "door prizes" at Club meetings trading them for tickets in the 50/50 raffle.. winner gets a whole, not a half of the stripper..
Always demand the whole stripper... This is true even if not a ham..
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Could you forward a link to the $1.65 strippers please?
73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
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On 9/23/21 10:01 AM, Larry Macionski via groups.io wrote: I have bought strip tools from Banggood.com instead of Ham Radio Outlet. Granted they take 3-4 weeks but they were like $1.65 USD.. I always order multiples as if ordering one and waiting a month it's broken is counterproductive.
The ones i get have a "plug" you can rotate for RG-174, RG-58/59, RG-6U/RG8X, or RG8/9913 that sets razor blade depth..
I surplus my extras- at ham fests for a $1 more. or as "door prizes" at Club meetings trading them for tickets in the 50/50 raffle.. winner gets a whole, not a half of the stripper..
Always demand the whole stripper... This is true even if not a ham..
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ALL- I never saved the link and I looked at Banggood.com and do not see any like the ones I had. Frankly that purchase was pre-pandemic and Banggood is like Amazon.. A collaboration of individual sellers that use the common website for advertising..
This is not the only thing I saw come and go on Banggood, Same with shipping time and is today's price what it was pre-pandemic.. Also pre-pandemic they had free shipping, then free shipping on orders over $49.. Now.. It's all different..
So- it is what it is.. Frankly at $1.65 I think the guy figured out he wasn't making money ---or-- the product was some sort of blow out sale to get rid of what he had..
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RandMental
Larry Macionski
Dick