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Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
Roger, I believe DiSlord is indeed asking whether the ability to accurately measure differing DUT input and output ports would be useful. It may not be used often but there are definitely uses for
By Tony Scaminaci · #39420 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
Roger, I am happy with the in/out impedances being the same. I just didn't want the renormalization feature the disappear. --John
By John Gord · #39419 ·
"Comparing a NanoVNA with a LabVNA Part 2: Three NanoVNAs, Two H4 NanoVNAs, and One HP 8505A VNA"
N. I. Yannopoulou and P. E. Zimourtopoulos, "Comparing a NanoVNA with a LabVNA Part 2: Three NanoVNAs, Two H4 NanoVNAs, and One HP 8505A VNA", FunkTechnikPlus # Journal, Issue 36, Friday 31 January
By gin&pez@arg · #39418 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
Do you want different impedances on input and output? I believe that is what DiSlord is suggesting... Roger
By Roger Need · #39417 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
Smith Chart is only for S11. The Port Z feature also works with S21. Roger
By Roger Need · #39416 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
Nizar, I am not sure what you are saying. The existing Port Z function allows one to calculate the S parameters for another system impedance like 75 ohms. For example if a filter had a designed input
By Roger Need · #39415 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
Yes NanoVNA 50Om system, but possible use math to see how this DUT measured in different impedance system For this S parameters converts to Z (DUT impedance constant and not depend from measured
By DiSlord · #39414 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
Dave, The measurement is indeed made in a 50-ohm system, but given a complete (S11, S21, S22, S12) set of S-parameters in a 50 ohm system, it is possible to calculate what the S-parameters would be in
By John Gord · #39413 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
That isn't the point Dave... When converting back to real values, whether the center 1 represents 50 Ohms or something else makes a difference. Or have I got something wrong here?
By Matthew Rapaport · #39412 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
But the measurement system - that of the NANOVNA - is always in a 50-ohm system. To do it correctly, matching networks are required to match anything other than 50-ohms. Dave - W?LEV
By W0LEV · #39411 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
Roger, The renormalization is useful for measuring networks (like crystal or ceramic filters) which are designed for other impedance levels. For example, it allows you to evaluate a 10.7MHz, 330ohm
By John Gord · #39410 ·
Re: NanoVNA and FY6XXX generator
There are quite a number of cheap and useful signal generators offered on epay. Dave - W?LEV
By W0LEV · #39409 ·
Re: NanoVNA and FY6XXX generator
HI Philip tnx for the advice. I use a combo of SMA M/F attenuators to stay well under +10dBm max signal level for NanoVNA input. Wonder if you too use FY 6XXX generator. Gabriele, I4JXE
By Gabriele I4JXE · #39408 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
Hi Roger If the coding does not require a huge complication nor a large resources, it would be appreciated to have this option of the Z port2, it would also approach the enhanced response on H4
By Team-SIM SIM-Mode · #39407 ·
Re: SWR Question
The 250m is a scaling parameter on the grid . So each successive horizontal line for SWR, in this case, increases by .25. 1.891 is the SWR calculated at the marker. Go into the Display/Scale menu to
By Roger Need · #39406 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
DiSlord, I have tested your port renormalization function (called Port Z) for several values of Z like 75 and 100 ohms. It calculated S11 and S21 correctly for DUT's
By Roger Need · #39405 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
Hi DiSlord and All I already used the standard load= 50.83 Ohm ( DC measur by a good Multimeter's) instead of 50.00 Ohm for the Nano calibration, and a Z0= 78.9 Ohm to optimise my nominal 75 Ohm coax
By Team-SIM SIM-Mode · #39404 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
VNA calibrated by 50Om - nominal port impedance On measure S parameters possible calculate get Z parameters (by known Z0 = 50) Next possible calculate from this Z new S` parameters but use Z` != 50 Om
By DiSlord · #39403 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
Yes, but I believe anyone (well........."maybe") can multiply any number by unity: 1. Or maybe not??????? Even with a normalized chart center, the measurement system is still as close to 50 ¡À j 0 as
By W0LEV · #39402 ·
Re: NanoVNA port renormalization
Isn't that what the Z function does--allow normalisation of the chart to any resistance?
By Matthew Rapaport · #39401 ·