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Re: Screen Scaling
Where you can measure the input impedance of a cable pair, a good way to determine Zo is: Zo = SQRT(Zoc * Zsc) where Zoc is measured with the distant end open circuited and Zsc is measured with the
By Maynard Wright, P. E., W6PAP · #34565 ·
Re: Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
Hi guys, just happened upon this thread. Not sure if its applicable, but if you're measuring a scope probe it maybe more complex than you think (10x probe). See the attached patent on the scope probe.
By Allen Hill · #34564 ·
Re: Screen Scaling
We had discussed at length the measurement of characteristic impedance. See this production /g/nanovna-users/message/32568 Which shows how, with a nanoVNA, to calculate the
By Fran?ois · #34563 ·
Re: Screen Scaling
Zo = SQRT(L/C) is exact when R and G (primary constants) are zero. An exact expression when they cannot be ignored is: Zo = SQRT[(R + jWL) / (G + jWC)] = SQRT(L/C) * SQRT[(1 - j(R/WL)) / (1 - (G/WC)]
By Maynard Wright, P. E., W6PAP · #34562 ·
Re: Screen Scaling
1) Be sure your coax is less than 1/4-wavelength long in the coax (considering Vp). Conversely, be sure your measurement frequency of measurement is less than the electrical length of the cable. 2)
By W0LEV · #34561 ·
Re: Screen Scaling
Display, scale... Set to 0.2 (to multiply resolution by 5)... Dg9bfc sigi Am 07.11.2023 21:58 schrieb "Russell C. Nixon" <rcnixon@...>:
By Siegfried Jackstien · #34560 ·
Screen Scaling
Can someone point me to a reference in the Wiki for screen scaling? I¡¯m trying w1aew¡¯s method for determining the characteristic impedance of an unknown piece of coax as an exercise. I¡¯m getting
By Russell C. Nixon · #34559 ·
Re: Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
Tom, let me ping my friend in Woodland Park, Co., who retired from the scope division of HP about probe design. You've got my curiosity go'n. I'll report back. Dave - W?LEV
By W0LEV · #34558 ·
Re: Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
Hello Fran?ois, Yes, I've just tried an off-on power cycle with a fresh OSL calibration and all of the chart is now inside the perimeter circle.When I cycle the power on my nanoVNA it resets
By KillingTime · #34557 ·
Re: Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
I forgot that the group website inhibits direct downloading of EXE files, probably to protect the user against viruses. You can download check.exe here: http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/mu.htm Before
By Brian Beezley · #34556 ·
Re: Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
Use this Windows utility to check for reflection coefficient magnitudes > 1. It may provide insight when results are odd. http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/check.exe Brian
By Brian Beezley · #34555 ·
Re: Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
Gee, Dave . . . -632 ohms?? If you parallel it with a reaonator, does it oscillate?? ;-) I don't remember the 10430A exactly, and I'm too lazy to look it up, but typically the cable is rather high
By Thomas Bruhns · #34554 ·
Re: Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
Hello I use: - NanoVNA-F - nanovna-saver I often had this type of problem with traces on the Smtith coming out of the circle. I realized that if I RESET the nanaoVNA (directly on the box), before
By Fran?ois · #34553 ·
Re: Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
Well spotted Mike! Cheers...Bob VK2ZRE
By Bob Ecclestone VK2ZRE · #34552 ·
Re: Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
In the top left of the screen, it says "CH0 SMITH 0.5FS" - that means that the scale is set to half of full-scale, ie: it's zoomed in so that the outer ring of the smith chart is showing a magnitude
By Mike Walters · #34551 ·
Re: Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
Not sure I follow you there Dave. I did an OSL before the measurement. How can any plot be beyond the perimeter given the right hand side perimeter represents infinity? Yes, the right hand side of the
By W0LEV · #34550 ·
Re: Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
Ah, but the VNA doesn't measure real and reactive impedance independently. It measures reflection coefficient, which, in this case has magnitude extremely close to 1.0. The VNA has only a finite
By David McQuate · #34549 ·
Re: Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
Not sure I follow you there Dave. I did an OSL before the measurement. How can any plot be beyond the perimeter given the right hand side perimeter represents infinity? Yes, but it isn't, it's outside
By KillingTime · #34548 ·
Re: Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
QUOTE: I attempted to generate a Smith chart using my NanoVNA and got the plots below. Port 0 is connected to an oscilloscope probe (x10) using a BNC adapter. Other end of the probe is connected to an
By W0LEV · #34547 ·
Data Outside The Smith Chart (?)
Hi, I attempted to generate a Smith chart using my NanoVNA and got the plots below. Port 0 is connected to an oscilloscope probe (x10) using a BNC adapter. Other end of the probe is connected to an
By KillingTime · #34546 ·