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Re: THE NANOVNA - A COMMENT
Ron Bussiere
Dave, thank you for a well written and POSITIVE comment. I follow the Reviews section on eHam daily, and there are REALLY folks out there, that would complain about being hung with a new rope!
It's easy to see the 'negative nellies' who bad mouth a new radio (or tool) without not only never having used one, or never even SEEN one! The Icom 9700 is proof of the "drifts like an Iceberg" comment from one old fart that doesn't even have a cellphone and wouldn't have a radio 'with a touch screen if it was given to him" mentality. I REALLY enjoy both my 2.8" NanoVNA and my 4.3" "F" model. I have a Rigol SA/TG in the shop, but these little devices are AWESOME!!! ron N4UE |
THE NANOVNA - A COMMENT
All too often we receive criticism for something we have accomplished or
completed. Well, that is not the intention of this email. My life-long philosophy in such things is that a milligram (choose your unit of measure) of positive praise goes an astronomical units (again, choose your unit of measure) farther than 1000 kg of negative dressing down (a.k.a., criticism). So, with that stated: Thank you ALL who brought the AFFORDABLE and highly FUNCTIONAL NANOVNA to the market!!!!! It is a wonderful tool for the amateur and certainly, based on the emails I read, a motivating tool for learning many of the finer points of RF design and more than just basic SWR. Guys and gals, well done ! ! ! ! ! What an instrument for all of US $50. Again, well done........ And all this should include the "saver" SW. I own an HP 8753C with the HP 85047 S-Parameter test set with a bunch of additional RF and low microwave test gear, mostly HP. I know how to use these instruments. But comparing the NANOVNA to the HP 'equivalent' which, in its day, cost 1000X the NANOVNA , you did a bang-up job. Please continue the efforts and offerings. It IS appreciated. And, BTW, the noise floor using s11 with my unit is about 10 dB better that advertised. Again, thank you for offering an affordable, motivational, capable, and educational tool to the average amateur (and a few EE's who can't even do Ohm's law....). Dave - W?LEV PS: I have a pair of 'senior' eyes at 73 years of age (wisdom) and do wish the screen were larger. Minor criticism as this would add cost. |
Re: errors of "error" models
#81" : update : on the physical expression of two-port s-parameters
REF: 9 December 2019 - /g/nanovna-users/message/8065 - #81' : update : on the physical expression of two-port s-parameters 8 December 2019 - /g/nanovna-users/message/8013 - Well, regarding o, O, 0, 1 and l appearance : after numerous trials-and-errors, we dropped the use of [Liberation Mono] and use [Bitstream Vera Sans Mono], [Bold], [16], [Release: 1.10]: |
Re: nanoVNA Partner
#nanovna_partner
Hi betex,
Thanks for having interest with the software, I posted the latest version here: /g/nanovna-users/topic/nanovnapartner_v0_17/67737499?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,67737499 And you can download it from this link: Kind regards, neb |
Re: nanoVNA Partner
#nanovna_partner
Hi neb,
your software looks quite nice, but unfortunately the link has expired... Could you please upload it again? Many thanks! betex |
Re: USB connection affecting measuring vertical ground-plane antenna
#usb
#calibration
#measurement
Many thanks for all your answers!
Taking now a 2m cable with ferrites at both ends is working really great! No more signal-affecting when connecting to USB!! :-)) ...and of course it might not be a correct design for a ground plane antenna, I think it is not bad at all... betex |
Re: connector swap
And check the connectors, not the markings on the cable. I have seen 75 ohm
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coax jumpers with 50 ohm BNC connectors on the ends. Such cables are not recommended if you are using a resonant antenna, but will be just fine if you are using a non-resonant antenna with an antenna tuner. On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 8:36 AM <Nulluser00@...> wrote:
RE: "First BNC up to 3ghz is a reliable connector, no different from TNC. |
Re: 30MHz and below
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 09:33 AM, QRP RX wrote:
"Just use menu STIMULUS and set STOP = 30 MHZ. After that perform calibration and save to memory cell 0. Thats it. Now it will works to max 30 MHz with no harmonics mode." ============================================================================= As an addendum to QRP's post, take into consideration that even if operation is limited below 300 MHz where the harmonics mode is used, because the SI5351 does not produce a sinusoidal output - harmonics will still be present in the CH0 output. Perhaps your biggest gain by limiting your frequency range will be increased frequency resolution because you are using the NanoVNA's 101available measurement points over a shorter frequency span. - Herb |
Re: errors of "error" models
@ Gary O'Neil, N3GO - 9 December 2019
/g/nanovna-users/message/8059 Dear Gary, No, there is not only the numeral two. There are a lot of ones and small Ls. But, could you wait a little, please? We will try to improve the appearance of the text, by using Liberation Mono of appropriate size or whatever else font, sometime later and we hope that we would finish after two or three hours, at most. Best regards, gin&pez@arg |
Re: New version of NanoVNA-Saver: 0.2.1
On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 10:46 PM, <pgc1682@...> wrote:
Hello pgc1682, Thank you very much for your help with SimSmith. Unfortunately I cannot follow your explanation. I have loaded my data file nanoVNA_RG173-30cm_202_500MHz_Open.s1p in SimSmith, see attached screen shot SimSmith_RG174-30cm_DL5FA.png Could you please tell me step by step what to do, to achieve your result? 73, Rudi DL5FA ![]()
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nanoVNA_RG173-30cm_202_500MHz_Open.s1p
nanoVNA_RG173-30cm_202_500MHz_Open.s1p
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Re: The T-Check confusion
On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 at 07:56, <erik@...> wrote:
Kurt,I would not say the matching is poor on port 2. I measured it using my HP VNA. At least on the NanoVNA sample I have, the return loss on port 2 is better than the specification on my HP 8720D VNA. I did post some data on the NanoVNA Facebook group. I was unable to measure the source match at port 1 well due to the power coming out of port 1. I had set my HP VNA source power to -20 dBm in an effort to not cause any non-linearities. Testing at +10 dBm might have been possible, but I don't know if the results could be trusted. Certainly switching the NanoVNA off showed excellent match on port 1, and on port 2 is was quite reasonable, and largely independent of whether the unit was powered on or not. Erik, PD0EK Dave |
Re: 30MHz and below
M Garza
Why not just calibrate for the frequencies you care about and save as your
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default? It doesn't seem like a custom firmware is needed to only see a segment you want. Since it is less than 300mhz, you would not be using harmonics, anyway. Just my opinion. Marco On Mon, Dec 9, 2019, 8:49 AM <erik@...> wrote:
Two questions to answer: |
Re: The T-Check confusion
Hi Erik
Fantastic ... I did not know you was maintaining TAPR VNA (or I had forgotten it) Looking forward to follow your project. My transfer switch is also Sivers Lab but only PM7551 ? with a small control PCB with 5V to 28DC converter. It went bust recently so now supplied by good old fashion AC/DC converter. I did measure some WiFi channel filter with the VNWA successfully using a filter for the entire WiFi band to clean up the TX signal. That worked great. One og these days I will try it with the NanoVNA Kind regards Kurt -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: [email protected] <[email protected]> P? vegne af erik@... Sendt: 9. december 2019 14:30 Til: [email protected] Emne: Re: [nanovna-users] The T-Check confusion Hi Kurt. Thanks. This is the switch I bought: SIVERS LAB PHILIPS COAXIAL SWITCH 28V DC-18Ghz PM7553 Isolation below 1GHz is better than 80dB so I guess below 300MHz good enough. As I am currently the maintainer for the TAPR-VNA software so I can add whatever I want :-) Using the scikit-rf implementation as example I should be able to add (limited) 10/12 term calibration functionally to the TAPR-VNA SW, including controlling the transfer relay. Lately I have been trying to optimize and tune various filters such as a 2GHz cavity filter and as I have to tune 5 resonators it would be nice if I did not need to reverse the DUT all the time as for best tuning you need to see S11,S21,S22 and S12 together. So it is more a matter of being kind to SMA cables and connectors and making tuning faster and easier. For my home build VNA's I can also buy/build a second bridge, add a 4th receiver and put the transfer switch between the LO and the bridges. This will give me a fairly symmetrical setup allowing measurement of the errors in the bridge impedance. Disadvantage is the transfer switch is locked inside one VNA So many options to choose from, sounds like a hobby -- NanoVNA Wiki: </g/nanovna-users/wiki/home> /g/nanovna-users/wiki/home NanoVNA Files: </g/nanovna-users/files> /g/nanovna-users/files Erik, PD0EK |
Re: 30MHz and below
Two questions to answer:
1: Is there anything you can improve for HF by removing/adding it from the current firmware of the nanoVNA? The only thing I can think of is to force the SI5351 to always use an even number in the final divider and thus reduce the spurs. As a consequence that scanning speed will be somewhat reduced. However these spurs have an neglectable impact so why bother? 2: Who will implement this? That will depend on the first answer I guess -- NanoVNA Wiki: /g/nanovna-users/wiki/home NanoVNA Files: /g/nanovna-users/files Erik, PD0EK |
Re: errors of "error" models
GIN&PEZ;
You are in excellent company. The Romans thought they could avert the zero issue altogether by not using it at all. They must have realized that the number 1 was going to be a problem when they ran out of fingers too. :-) Is the number 2 the only numerical character used in your proof? I think I can differentiate the zero¡¯s without ambiguity; I¡¯m only uncertain of the ones and lower case L¡¯s. Can I assume all are lower case L¡¯s, and all as being measured Load values? -- 73 Gary, N3GO |
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