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Is a negative Offset Delay in ps ok?

 

Hello,
I SOL calibrated my NanoVNA using a 30cm cable + F to F SMA coupler and the SOL end pieces. I removed the coupler and attached the 30cm cable to a ~5cm 50 ohm coax cable soldered to the input of a matching network which goes to a 900MHz Igneon PCB antenna. When using the tip of a knife to short the soldered-on end of the coax cable I need to use -205ps offset delay to bring the majority of the points to the left edge of the Smith Chart. Positive values make the plot worse. Is it ok to use a negative number with the NanoVNA Saver? That seems counter intuitive.


Re: The NanoVNA has an app?

 

There are two Android apps for updating FW on the TinySA'S and NanoVNA H and H4's.
1- StmDfuUsb
2- StmDfuBlue for those who have installed bluetooth modual.
Both will install dfu, bin or hex files.
The apps will work on Android Cellphones or Android tablets.
The apps are available on the Play store and Google app store.
Clyde Lambert KC7BJE


 

I think I have finally gotten something installed to flash new FW on my NanoVNA-H. I installed STM32CubeProgrammer on MacOS Ventura. I tried, unsuccessfully, on Windows 11 under VMWare Fusion. In addition, I am running on a M1 macbook air.

See attached for my NanoVNA configuration and Download log. I am not in a hurry to update the FW, since what I have is doing the job. I have an overheating problem with this device which after about 30 mins the sweep charts go haywire. I have started the return process and have this device until the beginning of Sept. Good time to practice flashing FW. I have entered DFU mode on my NanoVNA and attached with USB cable. I connected with STM32CubeProgrammer and "device memory" shows a dump of data in the display. I am assuming this is the device memory. I clicked on the "Read" drop down and selected "Save as" and saved to my computer. I'm guessing I now have the bin file of what is currently on the device? If a flash goes back I could revert to this? I've loaded this file and compared with memory and get good result.

To flash, I would download the FW (bin) I wish to flash, click the download icon, browse to the downloaded bin, and click "Start Programming."

Anything wrong with my theory? Anything to add?

73,
Peter
WB3IZU


Re: Nano VNA SAVER graphs of a 40m loop antenna

 

I had a 40 meter dipole at 7 feet above ground. Straight run no bends. At 7 feet, easy to clip the vna on and take a measure.
Better than 20 dB return loss at 7.050 MHz. At 10 W in, first contact was into VE3 land, 500 plus miles. NVIS?!?!


Re: Nano VNA SAVER graphs of a 40m loop antenna

 

Losing 10 dB is HUGE for a closed 40m ¡°loop¡± compared to a 40m dipole (doublet).
The trapezoidal loop was much lower 5m at one end 3m at the other compared to the doublet which is 10m away. The objective was to validate the existence of NVIS propagation on 40 m. A priori, at the zenith, the gain was good. It showed that none of the stations I was contacting on 40m were NVIS propagation. It would be necessary to do the same thing on 80 m but I don't have enough room for that.
73
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F1AMM
Fran?ois
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De la part de Barry K3EUI


Re: NanoVNA App - Installation and Use #applications

 

Dear Roger,
The situation is:
None on com ports menu and no any list.
The next menu:
"Disconnected"
Looks like no com ports or Windows 10 can't see the program.
Best regards,
Stefan Dimitrov


Re: Nano VNA SAVER graphs of a 40m loop antenna

 

Francois
Losing 10 dB is HUGE for a closed 40m ¡°loop¡± compared to a 40m dipole (doublet).
That makes no sense.
Something is wrong - bad coax, mismatch, ¡­. ?
Neither of my 40m antennas is showing any directional preference - as excpected, as they are only 20 ft elevation.

de k3eui barry
philadelphia PA


Re: Nano VNA SAVER graphs of a 40m loop antenna

 

This 40 m closed loop (140 ft) has only been in operation for about two weeks.
So far, it does as well as my simple 1/2 wave dipole (at same height).

I found each of these four graphs complimented the others:
SWR and RETURN LOSS indicated lowest SWR just below 7.0 MHz
PHASE graph - I love that one - shows where reactance is zero
Smith Chart - actually tells me everything - if you know how to read it

I only wanted this 40m closed loop for short-range NVIS daytime propagation for a MidAtlantic NBEMS net.
This new net will attempt to cover PA, NY, NJ, MD, DE and possibly New England if prop holds.
This 40m NBEMS EMCOMM net will be starting this fall:
Saturday 0900 hr EDT on 7068 kHz with THOR 22
Sunday at 1000 hr EDT on 7068 kHz with THOR 22 or THOR 11
Traffic: EMCOMM messages only like Severe Weather Reports, ICS, spreadsheets, etc.

I have a 40 ft vertical that does well at night, for low-angle DX.

The graph originated in SAVER.
I took a snapshot of the screen (ALT-PRINT SCREEN).
Then pasted that into a simple PAINT program (free) to add some text.
Nothing fancy. All the software was free.

de k3eui barry
PaNBEMS net manager (80m) Sunday mornings 0730 hr EDT on 3583 kHz (vfo dial)


Re: DFU mode not working #nanovna-app #nanovna-h4

 

On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 11:57 AM, David McGuire wrote:


Hello Shirley. I am very confused. I feel I need to update my NANOVNA-H 4.

Current version is 1.1.01, build time Dec 20 2021.

The unit has a flickering blue line at the top of its screen. I am hoping an
upgrade will help.
Back to this original statement of the problem:
For SWR measurement, the 1.1.01 software build should work fine, so you may not need to upgrade. There are lots of new features in the newer versions, but nothing that should affect SWR traces.
What is the nature of the 'blue flickering line"? Could it be the blue trace line (at the top of the graphing area)? A trace line could appear to flicker if it is set for data that is not present.
If so, maybe all you need to do is disable the blue trace. On the menu go to Display -> Trace and click on any traces you are not using to disable them. For SWR, you probably want trace 1 enabled, and its format set to SWR.


Re: dfu_util command line for updating firmware please ?

 

David,

I had a similar problem. DFUseDemo was loaded with the Bootloader driver which I use with STM32 CubeProgrammer for my Malahite DSP2 receiver. It uses the bootloader mode to update firmware. Sometimes when I exit it saves the bootloader driver.

To change drivers for the DFU Mode perform the following:

Start DFuSe Demo. If it does not detect any device in DFU mode do the following:
Start the Device Manager
- Under "Universal Serial Bus devices" you should see "STM32 BOOTLOADER"
- right click on "STM32 BOOTLOADER" and select "Update Driver"
- select "Browse my computer for drivers"
- select "Let me pick from a list of available drivers on my computer"
- Under "Select the device driver you want to install for this hardware". Check the "Show compatible hardware" box
- You should see the "STM Device in DFU Mode" and "STM32 Bootloader" drivers.
- Select the "STM Device in DFU Mode" driver.
- Select "Next" and it should display "Windows has successfully updated your drivers" Close this box
- The Device Manager should show:
"Universal Serial Bus Controllers"
"STM Device in DFU Mode"
- DfuSe Demo will detect the device in under DFU Mode.

Mike N2MS

On 08/13/2023 2:57 PM EDT David McGuire <leviticus25_9@...> wrote:


Hi John.

My Device Manager says that it is STM32 BOOTLOADER. I cannot seem to get a driver for the software. I went into the location your suggested. Would you have another idea?

Thank you.

David


Re: The NanoVNA has an app?

 

StmDfuUsb app for Android...

Istvaan


Re: The NanoVNA has an app?

 

This is a Windows app what made DisLord...

- start the exe file after download, search "upload VNA firmware" button then choose the "NanoVNA H4 v.1.2.24" button for your H4 device...




Yes, possible make a fw update from phone, but I never tried:

for example:
WebUSB
here is the topic:
/g/nanovna-users/topic/34347906#3654

or this:


- also exist some kind of application for iPhone...


Re: STM32 Bootloader...

 

- sorry on the picture just the dfu file

- but You can also download the app in the same way.


Re: STM32 Bootloader...

 

You can see the picture attached


Re: Guess I need BIN and not DFU, but I need help...

David McGuire
 

Thank you for the link, but when I tried I received this message:

404 - page not found
The main branch of NanoVNA-App does not contain the path Win32/Release*


Re: DFU mode not working #nanovna-app #nanovna-h4

 

if You see STM32 BOOTLOADER,

- then You can use the app for fw upgrade.

- You do not need anything else, firmware included:




Istvaan


The NanoVNA has an app?

David McGuire
 

Istvaan,

I went to the URL and received this message: (Sorry about that, but we can¡¯t show files that are this big right now.).

Can you tell me about the app? Will I use it from my cell phone? Will it be an icon on my Windows desktop?

Thank you.

David


Re: STM32 Bootloader...

David McGuire
 

I did not know there was an app. I went to the URL and it says that a file this large cannot be viewed at this time.


Re: Unwrapping Phase

 

Thanks, Roger. I've seen plenty of NanoVNA App plots here, but none with phase unwrapped.

Brian


Re: Guess I need BIN and not DFU, but I need help...

 



for the NanoVNA-H4 the app already included the latest firmware...

here is only the fw:

Istvaan