Re: |S11| > 1
Thanks to DAve W0LEV and others for bring up the subject of error analysis and significant figures. My own background is like Dave¡¯s; a physics degree in 1965. Our professor in senior labs was very
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Charles Young
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#28463
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Re: NanoVNA for RFID design
Dave, I don't normally post here (although I read everything via email). I just want to thank you for your very informative history of RFID. It's something I've worked with for a number of years but
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Jerry, AI0K
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#28462
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Re: |S11| > 1
I do not have a VNA. I rely on Rudy Severns, N6LF, for data. He recalibrated his VNA at the SMA connector, measured a short there, and now MA mode does not affect the file data. In addition, |S11| is
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Brian Beezley
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#28461
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Re: NanoVNA for RFID design
I am one of several engineers who worked for the company that originally introduced RFID to the world, AMTEK. They no longer exist as many start-ups go. The company was fresh off "The Hill", Los
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W0LEV
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#28460
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Re: |S11| > 1
Brian, As a reference point, when calibrated, the HP 8753D has a linear magnitude reflection uncertainty of 0.015 or so when the reflection magnitude is near 1. I am not sure if that means the
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John Gord
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#28459
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Re: |S11| > 1
Settings: 401 points, 0.1-50 MHz, bandwidth 100 Hz, arithmetic 4X smoothing, power = 4 mA Brian
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Brian Beezley
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#28458
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Re: |S11| > 1
Measurement of a short at the VNA connector after clearing cal: 49002000 -0.869956992 0.080768176 49126750 -0.869913280 0.080994536 49251500 -0.869870784 0.081221216 49376250 -0.869828352 0.081447216
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Brian Beezley
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#28457
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NanoVNA for RFID design
I'm sure that at least a few here are familiar with the following section from the STMicro application note "AN4974: Antenna matching for ST25R3911B/ST25R391x devices", since it calls for the use of a
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tjackson382000
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#28456
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Re: |S11| > 1
That's "total power" or 1E-4 on I and 1E-4 on Q (so 1.4E-4 on absolute voltage)?
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Jim Lux
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#28455
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Re: |S11| > 1
Jim, I can assure you our STEM students know nothing about significant figures! Terry (Dr. Terry Bullett) and I have tried, but no knowledge of the concept. They are Juniors going into their senior
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W0LEV
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#28454
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Re: |S11| > 1
On 4k IFBW as i can see H4 measure error (due to noise) on 100-200MHz near ~1e-4 (on linear trace) On 100Hz IFBW, near 1e-5
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DiSlord
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#28453
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Re: |S11| > 1
On 6/14/22 9:24 AM, W0LEV wrote: > Thank you, Jim!!! > > Again, we are not running a metrology lab nor do our measurements approach > those of HP, R&S, Tek, and others. Something my PhD friends tell
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Jim Lux
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#28452
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Re: |S11| > 1
Thank you, Jim!!! Again, we are not running a metrology lab nor do our measurements approach those of HP, R&S, Tek, and others. Something my PhD friends tell me is that error analysis and assignment
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W0LEV
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#28451
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Re: |S11| > 1
Thanks for the reply, DiSlord. I'll check with Rudy, but I believe he calibrated at the VNA SMA immediately before the measurement since normally he never measures without a cable.. Brian
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Brian Beezley
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#28450
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Re: |S11| > 1
what would be interesting is to measure it without calibration, and with, and make sure there's not some mis calibration going on somehow.
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Jim Lux
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#28449
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Re: |S11| > 1
I've asked Rudy to remeasure the short and open using MA (magnitude/angle) mode. That might shed some light on where the inaccuracy lies. Also, I think he was using averaging. It might be interesting
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Brian Beezley
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#28448
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Re: |S11| > 1
I think need recalibrate. Calibration must remove all errors.
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DiSlord
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#28447
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Re: |S11| > 1
Interesting - I wonder if it's a "round off" or truncation error of some sort.? The "detector" mixes with I/Q 5 kHz, summing, and there could
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Jim Lux
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#28446
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Re: New to NanoVNA - HAM wanting to play w. antennas
#edy555_nanovna
Carsten, my experience is all antennas, even those off the shelf one, need some finetuning. 1. Tuning - I would recommend the minimal height for tuning purposes is 3-4m over the ground at the end of
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igor-m
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#28445
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Re: Using a nanoVNA as a passive receiver
I tried this just last week. It seems work like a spectrum analyzer but having doubts about calibration. For this purpose I used Satsagen software and my HackRF One. -- ALVARO, EA8ARX
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?lvaro Felipe Hern¨¢ndez
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#28444
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