Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
I posted both sweeps to my blog. A link to it is in another post I made to this thread. I don't know if it will be above or below this post because I don't know how groups.io orders these replies. :)
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Albert Pion
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
I don't think there would be a problem with hosting the PDF somewhere with proper source credit. I grabbed it off the net some years ago. The original web article is no longer up and the Internet
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Jim Shorney
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examples of effect of feedline loss on apparent VSWR
Attached are some plots for a antenna with nominal impedance 52 ohms at resonance of 10MHz, with zero and 1 dB loss in the feedline. I chose the 52 ohms so that it wasn't a perfect match to 50 ohms so
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Jim Lux
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
Great! Thanks, Roger. I added that to my reference section. de KK7XO
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Albert Pion
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
Here you go >>> http://pabut.org/JPOLE.HTM Roger
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Roger Need
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
Here is a link to my blog post: https://www.multiquadratic.com/wordpress/index.php/2021/09/15/designing-a-twinlead-j-pole-antenna-using-simsmith-and-the-nanovna By the way, that J-Pole article Jim
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Albert Pion
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
The definitive article on the Jpole was written by N3GO some years ago. From a J to a Zepp The truth and its consequences Gary E. O'Neil, Raleigh, N.C. (N3GO) 73 -Jim NU0C "KENT BRITAIN"
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Jim Shorney
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
I'm using a choke on the antenna feed. It may not be enough inductance, but it's better than nothing. Once I finish my blog post I'll put up a link in this thread. By the way, Roger, I'm using your
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Albert Pion
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
Thanks again! I missed that in your post... Thanks again!! 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division,
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Dave (NK7Z)
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
Sure, think about how putting, say, a 3dB pad would change the 2:1 bandwidth - it would make it wider, because it pushes the entire trace down 6dB. You can see that on the plot I just posted - look at
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Jim Lux
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 09:15 AM, Jim Lux wrote kk7xo is measuring a J-Pole. Those antennas are famous for radiating on the outside surface of the shield and need good RF chokes. Something to consider
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Roger Need
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
Hi Jim, THANK YOU! I also have a Rig Expert AA-600. If I sweep at the shack, I get a 2:1 bandwidth that is far wider, than if I sweep at the antenna feedpoint. Why does the nano not show this same
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Dave (NK7Z)
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
Terry Turner, W5ETG, now a silent Key, was the first to develop the twinlead J-Pole back in the 1960's.? ?That puppy has certainly traveled far!? ?The hard part today is finding Twinlead! hihi
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KENT BRITAIN
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
Here's an example of a 6BTV with 100 ft of RG-8X. Blue trace is cal at the NanoVNA Orange trace is cal at the end of the Coax. You can pretty clearly see the loss of the coax increasing with
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Jim Lux
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
If you sweep with your calibration plane at the antenna, and at the VNA, I would like to see those results... 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical
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Dave (NK7Z)
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
SO-239 are not so bad at VHF, and in theory the affect generated by the connectors, in general, is equal across a broad frequency range. If you are within that range, then the connector type is not an
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Dave (NK7Z)
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
I think |S11| = -20dB is more like 1:1.22 VSWR 1:1.1 is 26 dB 1:1.5 is 14 dB 1:2 is 10 dB https://www.amphenolrf.com/vswr-conversion-chart
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Jim Lux
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
Thanks. The reason I'm doing this is because I made a blog post about how to design a 2-meter twinlead J-Pole using SimSmith and the NanoVNA. One of my readers asked me to post a final sweep of the
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Albert Pion
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
Yes, you will lose a bit of dynamic range. However, consider the "raw" dynamic range of the NANOs. At 2-meters, you have more than enough dynamic range in the instrument to throw away a bit. Actually,
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W0LEV
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Re: Sweeping an Antenna from the Shack
You'll lose a little bit of dynamic range, but, really, how much do you need.? If your antenna has a |S11| of -20dB or -30dB, then the fact that the dynamic range is now 50dB instead of 60dB isn't
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Jim Lux
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