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Re: Do I return my H4? Hima brand #buying #hardware #nanovna-h4

 

Larry Rothman

Thank you for your thoughts. I was unaware that the full functionality of the MCU was not needed. Personally I take the view that if a manufacturer attempts to replicate a product in appearance, packaging, branding etc., it may be deemed a counterfeit. But as you say "that doesn't mean it won't work"


Re: Do I return my H4? Hima brand #buying #hardware #nanovna-h4

 

That is an unknown clone. I've never seen that processor in one of these before BUT that doesn't mean it won't work.
The nanoVNA only uses about 30% of the internal peripheral ability of the chip (timers/FPU/memory/etc) as many areas/functions are not needed.
I have attached a chart of the STM32F3xx family below and there are several subgroups to each product line as well. look here:
However, the final say is up to you and personally, if the ad specs an STN32F303 and you didn't get that, I would return it as 'counterfeit'.
My $0.02

On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 06:56:09 a.m. EDT, Stephen - 2E0FXZ <spmbrown@...> wrote:

I purchased a "NanoVNA-H4" from Amazon in the UK. The brand is Hima, supplied by ANGLO CT. I purchased from Amazon to try to avoid delivery delays and unexpected import costs. I opened the back of the device to find there is no QR code or version no. But more significantly the mcu/processor is an STM32F 302. I understand the "302" part is a lower spec than that used by the official Hugen product.

I don't "need" the device for immediate use, so should I return it?

Thanks.


Do I return my H4? Hima brand #buying #hardware #nanovna-h4

 

I purchased a "NanoVNA-H4" from Amazon in the UK. The brand is Hima, supplied by ANGLO CT. I purchased from Amazon to try to avoid delivery delays and unexpected import costs. I opened the back of the device to find there is no QR code or version no. But more significantly the mcu/processor is an STM32F 302. I understand the "302" part is a lower spec than that used by the official Hugen product.

I don't "need" the device for immediate use, so should I return it?

Thanks.


Re: Adapters

 

Compensation for the delay is part of the normal calibration. You only
need to set the delay separately to compensate for a cable or connector
length that can't be part of your calibration.

On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 5:05 PM lobos305 via groups.io <lobos305=
[email protected]> wrote:

I always calibrate with as many connections and cables attached as I can
to eliminate insertion loss. I never considered delay as a factor, which I
will now have to research.






Re: Broken S-A-A v2 ?

 

witch pin do I check and what should it read?
Wayy too small traces for my multimeter so I have to go lend some smaller stuff tomorrow.


Re: Broken S-A-A v2 ?

 

you need check output switch u551, see v2 scheme


Re: Broken S-A-A v2 ?

 

nope. does not matter if the frequency is 3mhz - 6mhz or 140mhz - 455 mhz or full scale etc...
Always the traces are all around the place.


Re: Broken S-A-A v2 ?

 

Your device work in < 140MHz?

Check work in < 140MHz on V2 and V2Plus firmware

If work, problem in ADF generators or switches


Re: Broken S-A-A v2 ?

 

not sure how quoting works here but @Larry Rothman
From the link above. I installed the v2.2 firmware. The one that is not sold anymore. Problem is still the same
Then I installed one above it (v2 plus v2.3) Tried both experimental and stable. problem is still the same
Tried the V2 plus4 and the firmware does not work and have to force dfu and reflash something else...
Also tried all the "unoffical hardware variants"


Re: Firmware Updates for the SAA-2N

 

Valinire in previous post said to use the following for the s-a-a-2

One is the comm port and the other is the firmware

Here is the links



S-A-A V2





De K8HTB Joe


Re: Broken S-A-A v2 ?

 

Config-version only displays the version of FW you installed into the device.
If you installed plus FW into a non-plus device, you will see 'plus' on the version screen.
So - you need to install the non-plus FW into your device and calibrate to see if the problem goes away - if it does, you have a non-plus device.

On Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 06:25:05 a.m. EDT, <jorksx@...> wrote:

Config - Version says NanoVNA v2 Plus.
I just tested ALL the firmwares listed on that site I linked.
2 of them did not work at all, 2 were super slow and rest were working but still with my problem.
frequency range is 100mhz-150mhz.
Tried many different of them.
What should the scale/ and div etc... values be? Seems when I play with them I get better looking traces but the resistance values for example still changed all the time.
SOmetimes -6ohm to 20ohm. sometimes its 48ohm - 51ohm


Re: Broken S-A-A v2 ?

 

Config - Version says NanoVNA v2 Plus.
I just tested ALL the firmwares listed on that site I linked.
2 of them did not work at all, 2 were super slow and rest were working but still with my problem.
frequency range is 100mhz-150mhz.
Tried many different of them.
What should the scale/ and div etc... values be? Seems when I play with them I get better looking traces but the resistance values for example still changed all the time.
SOmetimes -6ohm to 20ohm. sometimes its 48ohm - 51ohm


Re: Broken S-A-A v2 ?

 

Are you sure you have a plus version? The firmware for regular V2 and V2Plus is different (but work, not good work).


Re: Broken S-A-A v2 ?

 

I tried with those sma calibration things and I also calibred with 50ohm resistor
I also tried open so without any connection
short, I shorted sma center to threads
and load was 50ohm resistor

Firmware is downloaded from here
20201013 stable for v2 plus


Re: Broken S-A-A v2 ?

 

There is a similar effect when you upload the plus version firmware to the non plus hardware.


Re: Firmware Updates for the SAA-2N

 

The saa-2n doesn't use dfu for flashing.?
Please search the forum messages for: SAA-2N firmware?
And you should find the info you need.?
Please remember that this forum is primarily for the NanoVNA devices. You should have a look at the SAA specific groups for info on your unit.?


On Tue., 14 Sep. 2021 at 9:33 p.m., Chris Pohlad-Thomas<chrispohladthomas@...> wrote: So I tried following the procedure in the absolute beginner guide in order to update the firmware on my SAA-2N. I noticed when connecting it to my PC it shows up as USB Serial Device (COM3) and when I put it into DFU mode I do not see anything change in Device Manager. I did notice when I went to look at the version that there is no information in there. Is the procedure different for updating these?


Firmware Updates for the SAA-2N

 

So I tried following the procedure in the absolute beginner guide in order to update the firmware on my SAA-2N. I noticed when connecting it to my PC it shows up as USB Serial Device (COM3) and when I put it into DFU mode I do not see anything change in Device Manager. I did notice when I went to look at the version that there is no information in there. Is the procedure different for updating these?


Re: Adapters

 

I always calibrate with as many connections and cables attached as I can to eliminate insertion loss. I never considered delay as a factor, which I will now have to research.


Re: Broken S-A-A v2 ?

 

It looks like the calibration parts and or a cable or 2 might be defective.?
This has tripped-up users in the past with the same display output.?
Check all your call components.?


On Tue., 14 Sep. 2021 at 6:16 p.m., jorksx@...<jorksx@...> wrote: Hello. Got my hand on this nanovna v2 plus(?)
Frist time turned it on got ALOT of traces and no idea what to do. After some tutorials I realased that it might be broken / bricked.
As you can see from the pictures the traces go all over the place and resistances etc change all the time.
I've calibrated the thing many many times, changed frequency range and calibrated again, calibrated more, tested antennas.... nothing
Seems like there is no connection between board and sma connector.
I can connect to nanovna-qt and saver. all show same kind of traces. Done calibration through software and through the screen.
I have updated the firmware to the lastest one. Also tried the experimental. Still same.
Any ideas?


Re: Broken S-A-A v2 ?

 

I would also agree on checking connections. when i ever have not a tight connection to whatever I am testing I get that birds nest mess of lines also.

Joe WB9SBD

On 9/14/2021 6:13 PM, K8HTB wrote:
Not sure what frequency you are measuring but first do a reset all. In menu buttons.

Set the stimulus 1 MHz to 10 MHz? just for some low hf range.

On the s-a-a-2 my SAA2 port zero is the bottom connection not the top left.

Do a reset then
Do a SOL calibration.

If you get the same results all over the place.

Go to the transform turn it on and off. Observe the display on the Smith chart.

See if you can see something other than garbage. It not then probably the sma connection is broken of the PC board.

De K8HTB Joe