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Re: Strange peaks in S11 with load
Hi Ernst,
I have the exact same 300MHz, 600MHz peaks. I'm actually trying to full charge the battery before making any measurement. I suspect the LiPo switching battery charging circuit to generate this harmonic. I will see if I have the same signal signature right after a full battery charge. I have the white Gecko version on which I added 3 cavities over the mixers circuits. (see my other post with pictures). Regards. Georges. |
Re: New nanoVNA received
Is this black one, better than the white one? If so, do you have a link to buy it off the ebay ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of alan victor via Groups.Io Sent: 08 July 2019 19:16 To: [email protected] Subject: [nanovna-users] New nanoVNA received Just received my 2nd nanoVNA. This is the black case, no Gecko white which works current to date quite well with 2 track display. This black case arrived ON TIME and well packed. Apparently held it's charge all the way through shipment and booted with a 4 track display. These instruments are little like a box of cracker jacks or is it chocolate, your not quite sure what's in the box. So far, so good. This unit came in its own plastic protective case with all the accessories enclosed. The construction looks very good and robust. The ON-OFF slide switch and USB-C connector are more robust. There is a screen protector film over the display and no scratches on the display from a stylus being used on the soft screen for pretest. The style of the 50 ohm load is DIFFERENT. The short and open appear the same as with prior cal kit. Is this 50 ohm termination superior? Don't know. The prior was ~ 18 dB best case at 900 MHz. Very important, IT IS CLEAR THAT THE ASSEMBLY OF THIS UNIT HAS THE RF SHIELDS OVER THE BRIDGE AREA AND MIXER AREA AS SUGGESTED IN THE EARLIER POST. ALSO, THESE SHIELDS LOOK LIKE DIE CUT BRASS WITH PRECISION FIT. THESE WERE NOT CUT OUT WITH TIN SNIPS OR A SCISSOR AND HAND SOLDERED IN. THIS LOOKS LIKE A PRO JOB. Hurrah! There is a green film strip sticking out of the left side of the display. Looks like the kinda of thing you would pull to engage the battery contacts on a new toy to protect the battery during shipment. However, I have not touched it and the unit turns on out of the box. The display has the 4 color traces and the pixel appearance is smaller and crisper than the white gecko unit. So I will wait for a charge cycle to complete and see how this one plays. Hope this info is of assistance. Alan |
Re: Your NanoVNA version
Thanks, so much. I got my nanoVNA working on my computer now.
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Who knows who... could, perhaps take a paid commission to make one of these nanoVNA systems but with more data points ?? Greg -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of alan victor via Groups.Io Sent: 08 July 2019 17:58 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version I just checked and nanoVNAsharp.zip is there. So this should work fine. Unzip and install; in my case was done under Windows 10. There is a dll file there and a Smith Chart back drop graph is in place. That way no generation of the chart is required via SW. ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of alan victor <avictor73@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 4:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version Did you try this: Supposed to have it all. I obtained mine via a .RAR file or a zip file which I could send as well if the above does not do it. ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Greg Ashley <Gregory@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 3:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version I just tried to get the software but it was forbidden my access. Can you please send me the link to get the software to run my nanoVNA? Thanks for helping Greg Sent from Mail<> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of alan victor via Groups.Io <avictor73@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 4:29:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version What problem are you having? Alan ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Greg Ashley <Gregory@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 3:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version Can some one please help me to get the computer software to run my NanoVNA ? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of f4htq via Groups.Io Sent: 08 July 2019 16:02 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version Dear Hugen, I own the two versions ( your designed version, black, with battery and shielded entries, and the "clone" white version ). I noticed that the mixers used in white version are SA602A instead of SA612A. Do you think that will be a issue ? have you put SA612A mixers on your model ? I have a huge performance differencies betwen the black and the white version. at 900MHz little more than 50 dB of dynamic range subsist with the black version but no more than 30dB with the white version. Do you think that can be only explained by the missing shielding ? (However when i made some test on HF and VHF frequencies, the results seems quite identicals). regards, David, F4HTQ. |
Re: Just ordered SA612A
I 'thought' the factory making SA602 had burned down ages ago so all chips manufactured were actually SA612. So will be the same chip (especially if the SMT version).
Info here although pretty sure spoke to Paul Harden about it at the time Anyway the datasheet is here 72 Dom M1KTA |
Re: Your NanoVNA version
I have a white Gecko unit - and I have ordered another unit from Hugen via
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taobao which is waiting to ship. I agree there are issues with the bridge. Above 300MHz return loss measurements become quite noisy at only around 15dB RL. I think using an external bridge connected between port 1 and port 2 to do the RL measurement will work much better. In that case the calibration would need to be done on a PC instead of on the unit (without firmware mods) Roger On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 13:22, <hugen@...> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 11:02 PM, <f4htq@...> wrote:SA612A. |
Re: Your NanoVNA version
On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 11:02 PM, <f4htq@...> wrote:
Hi,David NE602 = SA602 = NE612 = SA612 Adding shields should improve performance, but some bad modifications on the PCB can also reduce performance. Thank you£¡ hugen |
Re: A crystal filter
Nicely done, thanks for sharing.
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Stuart K6YAZ -----Original Message-----
From: alan victor <avictor73@...> To: nanovna-users <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jul 8, 2019 5:58 pm Subject: [nanovna-users] A crystal filter Here is a 9 MHz crystal filter which is matched to 50 ohms. The response is in good agreement despite not re calibrating? over the proper passband range; say 8-10 MHz. Instead I used the 50 kHz - 900 MHz cal and reset the stimulus range to cover a narrower passband. It would be best if you cal with prior knowledge the filter center and span and not task the interpolation routine. The update rate between the PC and the COM port on the nanoVNA is fast enough to permit real time tuning of the Z match networks. I set the refresh rate to 800 mS. Alan |
A crystal filter
Here is a 9 MHz crystal filter which is matched to 50 ohms. The response is in good agreement despite not re calibrating over the proper passband range; say 8-10 MHz. Instead I used the 50 kHz - 900 MHz cal and reset the stimulus range to cover a narrower passband. It would be best if you cal with prior knowledge the filter center and span and not task the interpolation routine. The update rate between the PC and the COM port on the nanoVNA is fast enough to permit real time tuning of the Z match networks. I set the refresh rate to 800 mS. Alan
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Re: New nanoVNA received
Ahhhh... Great and thanks!
________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of dk1vi <dk1vi@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 11:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] New nanoVNA received Alan, the green strip you mentioned belongs to the protector film. It should help you to to pick it off, after removing the front plate. Ernst |
Two port response
This is from the nanoVNA black. I think I almost have my head around the cal for this particular box and what traces are meaningful and which are BOGUS. The HF dynamic range is decent. You can set the traces to start from the TOP. The default is 1 box division down, i.e. 007 vs. 008.
Alan |
Re: New nanoVNA received
This one was from who"
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Stuart K6YAZ -----Original Message-----
From: alan victor <avictor73@...> To: nanovna-users <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jul 8, 2019 11:23 am Subject: [nanovna-users] New nanoVNA received Just received my 2nd nanoVNA. This is the black case, no Gecko white which works current to date quite well with 2 track display. This black case arrived ON TIME and well packed. Apparently held it's charge all the way through shipment and booted with a 4 track display. These instruments are little like a box of cracker jacks or is it chocolate, your not quite sure what's in the box. So far, so good. This unit came in its own plastic protective case with all the accessories enclosed. The construction looks very good and robust. The ON-OFF slide switch and USB-C connector are more robust. There is a screen protector film over the display and no scratches on the display from a stylus being used on the soft screen for pretest. The style of the 50 ohm load is DIFFERENT. The short and open appear the same as with prior cal kit. Is this 50 ohm termination superior? Don't know. The prior was ~ 18 dB best case at 900 MHz. Very important, IT IS CLEAR THAT THE ASSEMBLY OF THIS UNIT HAS THE RF SHIELDS OVER THE BRIDGE AREA AND MIXER AREA AS SUGGESTED IN THE EARLIER POST. ALSO, THESE SHIELDS LOOK LIKE DIE CUT BRASS WITH PRECISION FIT. THESE WERE NOT CUT OUT WITH TIN SNIPS OR A SCISSOR AND HAND SOLDERED IN. THIS LOOKS LIKE A PRO JOB. Hurrah! There is a green film strip sticking out of the left side of the display. Looks like the kinda of thing you would pull to engage the battery contacts on a new toy to protect the battery during shipment. However, I have not touched it and the unit turns on out of the box. The display has the 4 color traces and the pixel appearance is smaller and crisper than the white gecko unit. So I will wait for a charge cycle to complete and see how this one plays. Hope this info is of assistance. Alan |
New nanoVNA received
Just received my 2nd nanoVNA. This is the black case, no Gecko white which works current to date quite well with 2 track display. This black case arrived ON TIME and well packed. Apparently held it's charge all the way through shipment and booted with a 4 track display.
These instruments are little like a box of cracker jacks or is it chocolate, your not quite sure what's in the box. So far, so good. This unit came in its own plastic protective case with all the accessories enclosed. The construction looks very good and robust. The ON-OFF slide switch and USB-C connector are more robust. There is a screen protector film over the display and no scratches on the display from a stylus being used on the soft screen for pretest. The style of the 50 ohm load is DIFFERENT. The short and open appear the same as with prior cal kit. Is this 50 ohm termination superior? Don't know. The prior was ~ 18 dB best case at 900 MHz. Very important, IT IS CLEAR THAT THE ASSEMBLY OF THIS UNIT HAS THE RF SHIELDS OVER THE BRIDGE AREA AND MIXER AREA AS SUGGESTED IN THE EARLIER POST. ALSO, THESE SHIELDS LOOK LIKE DIE CUT BRASS WITH PRECISION FIT. THESE WERE NOT CUT OUT WITH TIN SNIPS OR A SCISSOR AND HAND SOLDERED IN. THIS LOOKS LIKE A PRO JOB. Hurrah! There is a green film strip sticking out of the left side of the display. Looks like the kinda of thing you would pull to engage the battery contacts on a new toy to protect the battery during shipment. However, I have not touched it and the unit turns on out of the box. The display has the 4 color traces and the pixel appearance is smaller and crisper than the white gecko unit. So I will wait for a charge cycle to complete and see how this one plays. Hope this info is of assistance. Alan |
Re: Your NanoVNA version
I just checked and nanoVNAsharp.zip is there. So this should work fine. Unzip and install; in my case was done under Windows 10. There is a dll file there and a Smith Chart back drop graph is in place. That way no generation of the chart is required via SW.
________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of alan victor <avictor73@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 4:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version Did you try this: Supposed to have it all. I obtained mine via a .RAR file or a zip file which I could send as well if the above does not do it. ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Greg Ashley <Gregory@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 3:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version I just tried to get the software but it was forbidden my access. Can you please send me the link to get the software to run my nanoVNA? Thanks for helping Greg Sent from Mail<> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of alan victor via Groups.Io <avictor73@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 4:29:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version What problem are you having? Alan ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Greg Ashley <Gregory@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 3:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version Can some one please help me to get the computer software to run my NanoVNA ? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of f4htq via Groups.Io Sent: 08 July 2019 16:02 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version Dear Hugen, I own the two versions ( your designed version, black, with battery and shielded entries, and the "clone" white version ). I noticed that the mixers used in white version are SA602A instead of SA612A. Do you think that will be a issue ? have you put SA612A mixers on your model ? I have a huge performance differencies betwen the black and the white version. at 900MHz little more than 50 dB of dynamic range subsist with the black version but no more than 30dB with the white version. Do you think that can be only explained by the missing shielding ? (However when i made some test on HF and VHF frequencies, the results seems quite identicals). regards, David, F4HTQ. |
Re: Your NanoVNA version
Did you try this:
Supposed to have it all. I obtained mine via a .RAR file or a zip file which I could send as well if the above does not do it. ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Greg Ashley <Gregory@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 3:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version I just tried to get the software but it was forbidden my access. Can you please send me the link to get the software to run my nanoVNA? Thanks for helping Greg Sent from Mail<> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of alan victor via Groups.Io <avictor73@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 4:29:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version What problem are you having? Alan ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Greg Ashley <Gregory@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 3:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version Can some one please help me to get the computer software to run my NanoVNA ? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of f4htq via Groups.Io Sent: 08 July 2019 16:02 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version Dear Hugen, I own the two versions ( your designed version, black, with battery and shielded entries, and the "clone" white version ). I noticed that the mixers used in white version are SA602A instead of SA612A. Do you think that will be a issue ? have you put SA612A mixers on your model ? I have a huge performance differencies betwen the black and the white version. at 900MHz little more than 50 dB of dynamic range subsist with the black version but no more than 30dB with the white version. Do you think that can be only explained by the missing shielding ? (However when i made some test on HF and VHF frequencies, the results seems quite identicals). regards, David, F4HTQ. |
Re: Your NanoVNA version
I just tried to get the software but it was forbidden my access.
Can you please send me the link to get the software to run my nanoVNA? Thanks for helping Greg Sent from Mail<> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of alan victor via Groups.Io <avictor73@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 4:29:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version What problem are you having? Alan ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Greg Ashley <Gregory@...> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2019 3:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version Can some one please help me to get the computer software to run my NanoVNA ? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of f4htq via Groups.Io Sent: 08 July 2019 16:02 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Your NanoVNA version Dear Hugen, I own the two versions ( your designed version, black, with battery and shielded entries, and the "clone" white version ). I noticed that the mixers used in white version are SA602A instead of SA612A. Do you think that will be a issue ? have you put SA612A mixers on your model ? I have a huge performance differencies betwen the black and the white version. at 900MHz little more than 50 dB of dynamic range subsist with the black version but no more than 30dB with the white version. Do you think that can be only explained by the missing shielding ? (However when i made some test on HF and VHF frequencies, the results seems quite identicals). regards, David, F4HTQ. |
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