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Re: NanoVNA-Web-Client, problem with Chromebook

 

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 04:15 PM, Gwen Patton wrote:

" ¡­ Maybe this will work better with NanoVNA-Web-Client. I don't know, I haven't tried it myself, but this is a way to keep the Chromebook useful..."

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Gwen,
If you have a NanoVNA could you try running the NanoVNA-Web-Client under the GalliumOS and letting the group know if it works.

Tks,

-Herb


Re: NanoVNA-Web-Client, problem with Chromebook

Gwen Patton
 

You have another option, Bob.

We have two older Chromebooks, the Acer 11.6" CB3-111-C8UB. They've long been out of updates, and we replaced them with a couple of newer Asus Flip Chromebooks that really work well. But what to do with the OLD ones? The CROUTON tool lets you sort of dual-boot it with a flavor of Ubuntu Linux, but I found that GalliumOS is much easier to install and use. You can do the dual boot thing if you want, or if you don't care if it still has the ChromeOS partition, you can just reflash the whole thing over to Linux using GalliumOS, a distro of Xubuntu, yet another Ubuntu derivative. It has a live version you can burn to a thumb drive and try out, and if you like it, you can update the firmware to support it as the sole OS on the machine, then do an install from that same thumb drive. It takes about 10 minutes to get everything all set up, then about another 20 minutes to half an hour for it to download and install everything.

GalliumOS supports a whole pile of ham radio programs, including WSJT-X and JS8Call, Qtel (an Echolink client), and a number of loggers of varying degrees of complexity. I got the latest version of JS8Call working with no trouble whatsoever. There's a whole suite of antenna design apps for it, and electronics tools like Fritzing, and you can install whatever browser you like that's available for Linux, such as Firefox. It comes with Chromium, but it's a far more up to date version than what the Chromebook itself had at this point.



Maybe this will work better with NanoVNA-Web-Client. I don't know, I haven't tried it myself, but this is a way to keep the Chromebook useful.

73,
Gwen, NG3P


Re: USB cable

Bob Albert
 

Herb, no idea of the short.? In fact the removed connector seems to have disappeared.? If I could find it (I will) and figure out how to reattach it (I doubt that) I will have a perfect unit.? Oh well.? My best guess is a solder bridge under the plug but it looks okay with the plug gone.? If it were misaligned that could do it.
I found an old cellphone charging cable with an obsolete connector so cut that off and hard wired to the nano.? Then I plugged the USB into a 5V charger I had laying around and I am good to go.
I calibrated the nano and made some antenna measurements and now have two working units.? They agree with one another in impedance.
Only about 20 more projects to go.
I want to thank all for helping.? Larry Rothman gave me the exact point to use.
Bob On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 03:31:43 PM PST, hwalker <herbwalker2476@...> wrote:

Bob,
? Any idea what caused the short at the connector?? Usually the USB-C connectors are not easy to misalign so I was curious as to what you thought might have occurred.

- Herb


Re: errors of "error" models

 

Dear GIN&PEZ;

The process you describe is the one I have been using, and it works just fine. It is just an annoying and unnecessary extra step in the printing process. I still have to walk over to my XYL¡¯s office to get my copy from the printer. :-)

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73

Gary, N3G


Re: NanoVNA-Q out of memory while compiling

 

just tried to clone it from scratch and compile - compiled okay with no errors.

Clone and compile sequence is the following:

$ git clone
$ cd NanoVNA-Q/
$ git submodule update --init --recursive
$ make


Re: NanoVNA-Q out of memory while compiling

 

Here is screenshot:


Re: NanoVNA-Q out of memory while compiling

 

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 11:29 PM, Lapo Pieri wrote:


Is there a sort of code configuration to issue before compiling?
You can comment lines 28-30 in the file nanovna.h to enable/disable support for scanraw and color command. It will reduce memory usage.

I just installed arm-none-eabi-gcc with apt-get install on my old Ubuntu machine and it can compile code from repository with no needs for any change.


Re: NanoVNA-Web-Client, problem with Chromeb

 

Yeah, I just read an article that said Chromebooks all essentially have a built-in expiry date after which Google will no longer push out updates.?
The gist of the article was that if you're going to buy one, to take note of the date it was manufactured and not to purchase anything more than a few months old.?
Beware of old models being sold cheaply during all the current sales. They may not take updates for very long.?



On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 5:24 PM, GM4CID<gm4cid@...> wrote: Herb,

My Chromebook has reached an age where it no longer receives updates so it does not have the latest OS and will not work.
Thank you, time to stop trying and dig out a Windows laptop.

73 Bob GM4CID


Re: USB cable

 

Bob,
Any idea what caused the short at the connector? Usually the USB-C connectors are not easy to misalign so I was curious as to what you thought might have occurred.

- Herb


Re: USB cable

 

Nah, don't use a usb 5v wall wart.? Get one with a small barrel plug and stick a socket on the Nano. Check around your junk box for the parts.?



On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 5:36 PM, Bob Albert via Groups.Io<bob91343@...> wrote: Okay I tried it and it looks perfect.? I found a 7805 and will find a spot for it and energize this thing from a higher voltage.
However, the circuit seems to draw the better part of 1 Ampere so running it from 13 V would dissipate 8 Watts, too much for the little regulator.? So I have to ponder alternatives, either a pass transistor or just running it from a separate 5V source as you recommend.? There is no shortage of USB wall supplies although the proper connector is another story.
Bob

On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 11:05:08 AM PST, Larry Rothman <nlroth@...> wrote:

Bob -

Please DO NOT apply 5 volts to the device if you have the battery connected directly to the power switch!!

You WILL end up with a battery fire.

The only reason the unit is working is because there is a low drop out regulator that is converting that 3.7 volts down to 3.3 volts.

HOWEVER - your SA612 mixers are no longer getting the 5 volts they need to operate with and your readings will not be accurate.

The 5v at the USB socket drives the charger/inverter chip that simultaneously charges the battery and provides 5 volts to the power switch to run the Nano.

I've used an existing forum photo and added the spot (red) where you can manually connect +5V to R40 at Pin 1 of the IP5303 chip.
But first, put the battery back where is is supposed to be connected.

you can use a barrel jack and a 5V wall adapter and you're good to go.


Re: USB cable

 

Good to know, Bob.?
I had suggested to the devs to use 2 LiPo s with a linear 5v Reg to run the unit in order to reduce RFI from that charger/inverter chip.?
Banggood has a 2S charging board for about $2 that you run off of an 8 to 12v source.? I'm going to look at that setup soon in addition to modding the bridge and freq source circuits per the discussion on Hugen's GitHub repo.?
CheersLarry



On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 5:03 PM, Bob Albert via Groups.Io<bob91343@...> wrote: Larry, that is exactly the information I was seeking.? Now I can restore 'normal' operation, less the data exchange.
I did connect 5V to the switch because 3.7 wasn't enough for the unit to run.? We shall see how it goes.
I do intend to use an external 7805 to run the unit from a 13V source, and have it sort of permanently attached to my ham station.? I still have the other one that works fine and it will do for portable uses.
Off to the workbench...
Bob

On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 11:05:08 AM PST, Larry Rothman <nlroth@...> wrote:

Bob -

Please DO NOT apply 5 volts to the device if you have the battery connected directly to the power switch!!

You WILL end up with a battery fire.

The only reason the unit is working is because there is a low drop out regulator that is converting that 3.7 volts down to 3.3 volts.

HOWEVER - your SA612 mixers are no longer getting the 5 volts they need to operate with and your readings will not be accurate.

The 5v at the USB socket drives the charger/inverter chip that simultaneously charges the battery and provides 5 volts to the power switch to run the Nano.

I've used an existing forum photo and added the spot (red) where you can manually connect +5V to R40 at Pin 1 of the IP5303 chip.
But first, put the battery back where is is supposed to be connected.

you can use a barrel jack and a 5V wall adapter and you're good to go.


Re: NanoVNA-Q out of memory while compiling

 

I personally have not tried to compile the code but it logical that if you remove most of the help text, you will free up code space.?
Maybe QRP could create a 'help-free' version to be used primarily with NanoVNA Saver and other PC apps so the freed-up space could be used for newer features??? :-)



On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 4:29 PM, Lapo Pieri<ik5nax@...> wrote: 01:10 Thu 05 Dec 19? , Larry Rothman wrote:
Well, if this is only for your own personal use, I would suggest you can begin removing all the help text and associated code, incuding the info text.??
I've to figure out how to remove that part of code

Afterall, you already know how to use the commands, right???
Is there a sort of code configuration to issue before compiling?

Thanks

Lapo


Re: USB cable

Bob Albert
 

Okay I tried it and it looks perfect.? I found a 7805 and will find a spot for it and energize this thing from a higher voltage.
However, the circuit seems to draw the better part of 1 Ampere so running it from 13 V would dissipate 8 Watts, too much for the little regulator.? So I have to ponder alternatives, either a pass transistor or just running it from a separate 5V source as you recommend.? There is no shortage of USB wall supplies although the proper connector is another story.
Bob

On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 11:05:08 AM PST, Larry Rothman <nlroth@...> wrote:

Bob -

Please DO NOT apply 5 volts to the device if you have the battery connected directly to the power switch!!

You WILL end up with a battery fire.

The only reason the unit is working is because there is a low drop out regulator that is converting that 3.7 volts down to 3.3 volts.

HOWEVER - your SA612 mixers are no longer getting the 5 volts they need to operate with and your readings will not be accurate.

The 5v at the USB socket drives the charger/inverter chip that simultaneously charges the battery and provides 5 volts to the power switch to run the Nano.

I've used an existing forum photo and added the spot (red) where you can manually connect +5V to R40 at Pin 1 of the IP5303 chip.
But first, put the battery back where is is supposed to be connected.

you can use a barrel jack and a 5V wall adapter and you're good to go.


Re: NanoVNA-Web-Client, problem with Chromebook

GM4CID
 

Herb,

My Chromebook has reached an age where it no longer receives updates so it does not have the latest OS and will not work.
Thank you, time to stop trying and dig out a Windows laptop.

73 Bob GM4CID


Re: NanoVNA-Web-Client, problem with Chromebook

 

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 01:16 PM, GM4CID wrote:

"... Having problems trying to use NanoVNA-Web-Client, with Chromebook..."
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Bob,
Refer to Oristo's message, /g/nanovna-users/message/6660?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,chromebook,20,2,0,37711267 :

Prior to the latest Chromium OS update no one had reported being able to connect to the NanoVNA using a Chromebook. If the latest Chromium OS update has been pushed to your Chromebook then the browser based App should work. No one has still reported beening able to get the off-line APK App to work on a Chromebook.

- Herb


Re: USB cable

Bob Albert
 

Larry, that is exactly the information I was seeking.? Now I can restore 'normal' operation, less the data exchange.
I did connect 5V to the switch because 3.7 wasn't enough for the unit to run.? We shall see how it goes.
I do intend to use an external 7805 to run the unit from a 13V source, and have it sort of permanently attached to my ham station.? I still have the other one that works fine and it will do for portable uses.
Off to the workbench...
Bob

On Thursday, December 5, 2019, 11:05:08 AM PST, Larry Rothman <nlroth@...> wrote:

Bob -

Please DO NOT apply 5 volts to the device if you have the battery connected directly to the power switch!!

You WILL end up with a battery fire.

The only reason the unit is working is because there is a low drop out regulator that is converting that 3.7 volts down to 3.3 volts.

HOWEVER - your SA612 mixers are no longer getting the 5 volts they need to operate with and your readings will not be accurate.

The 5v at the USB socket drives the charger/inverter chip that simultaneously charges the battery and provides 5 volts to the power switch to run the Nano.

I've used an existing forum photo and added the spot (red) where you can manually connect +5V to R40 at Pin 1 of the IP5303 chip.
But first, put the battery back where is is supposed to be connected.

you can use a barrel jack and a 5V wall adapter and you're good to go.


Re: NanoVNA-Q out of memory while compiling

Lapo Pieri
 

23:17 Wed 04 Dec 19 , QRP RX wrote:
I tested it on arm-none-eabi-gcc (15:4.9.3+svn231177-1) 4.9.3 20150529 (prerelease)
Mine is newer (from debian unstable) and probabily has some different
default compiling/linking options, this has happened several times in gcc
history... Or maybe some compiling strategies has changed... I'm not an
expert

The latest github version can fit into memory with all commands enabled, just out of the repository.
I take it yesterday from the repo but non luck.

I've tried to substitute -O2 with -Os but fw start, show start and stop freq
and a whole black screen, no more.

I'll study it a bit

Thank you!

Lapo


Re: NanoVNA-Q out of memory while compiling

Lapo Pieri
 

01:10 Thu 05 Dec 19 , Larry Rothman wrote:
Well, if this is only for your own personal use, I would suggest you can begin removing all the help text and associated code, incuding the info text.??
I've to figure out how to remove that part of code

Afterall, you already know how to use the commands, right???
Is there a sort of code configuration to issue before compiling?

Thanks

Lapo


Re: New version of NanoVNA-Saver: 0.2.1

 

Hi Paul,
I'm not entirely sure what issue you mean? Could you describe what's
happening more clearly, as well as the environment you are using?

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Rune / 5Q5R

On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 21:45, paul larner <quadzillatech@...> wrote:

am i the only person with this issue?,as it stands its pretty unusable,at
least for me thats the case!




NanoVNA-Web-Client, problem with Chromebook

GM4CID
 

Having problems trying to use NanoVNA-Web-Client, with Chromebook

Chromebook with chrome://flags/#enable-experimental-web-platform-features set to enable,

NanoVNA connected and browser set to .

Selecting Connect shows the NanoVNA virtual com port is paired.

With the virtual com port highlighted pressing the Connect button gives the following error message -
"failed to open: TypeError: Cannot read property 'getWriter' of undefined"

Any ideas what can be tried to resolve.

Regards, Bob GM4CID