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Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.5

 

Hello Hans-Peter,
you're right: The algorithm assumes that the first -3dB point it finds is
the -3dB point of the filter. I'm not certain what's a good and generic way
to avoid this to allow filters to have that much ripple?

Suggestions?

Rune / 5Q5R
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Display a 2-line message:

Your filter has too much ripple to be useful. Please don't ask me to analyse such rubbish!

... or perhaps not!

"Filter unsuitable for bandwidth analysis"

73,
David GM8ARV
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SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web:
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


Re: 1500Mhz, usable ?

 

Attached is the print screen of the 50 Ohm load?sweep up to 1.4 GHz
73 de YO4AUL

On Monday, November 11,? 2019, 05:39:19 PM GMT+2, Barry Jackson via Groups.Io <g4mkt@...> wrote:


On 11/11/2019 15:13, Andy via Groups.Io wrote:
1Hz, wow, that's pretty cool.
I won't write off an upgrade in the future then.
73 de Andy
No don't, I found it really useful for checking an ADS-B RX antenna at
1090MHz. (jpole with 1/4-3/4 wave balun and shorted 1/4 wave stub filter
for rtl-sdr dongle))

See attached.

That output was with the antenna un-tweaked after building from nec2c
dimensions - very impressed with the results.

Cheers,
Barry
G4MKT


Re: Spurs around 300MHz

 

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 04:34 PM, Sam Reaves wrote:


1. Spur on display around 300MHz. This appears to change and amplitude but is
always there.
2. Spurious data on displayed in the smith chart green trace. This comes and
goes.
Did you tried NanoVNA-Q firmware? It should fix that.

I also working on further improvement, but don't know if I will complete it because si5351 has complicated behavior when you trying to use it up to 300 MHz


Re: My NanoVNA is not recognised by DFUse when using V 0.2.3 firmware

 

Hi Larry,

I still keep trying , still no luck, running on Windows10.

The devicve manager shows the device is connected to Com11, NanoVNA-Saver connects it on Com11 , no problem at all, runs fine. When device is in DFU mode NanoVNA-Saver can't connect it either.

Windows devicemanager shows an error under "Sensors" MicrosoftVisualStudioLocationSimulator"? error is related to "WUDFRd.sys" and a "Haldetector", MSVLocationsimulator reports "you have the latest version"? when I start a search for updates.

In Devicemanager under? USBdevices , DFU bootloader has disappeared

I can find? WUDFRd.sys in Windows/System32.

Switching off MSVSLocation Simulator does not help, same problem.

I think I'm going to de-instal Microsoft Visual Studio and see what happens.

Jos


Op 11-11-2019 om 15:18 schreef Larry Rothman:

I've been trying to get this working - keeps coming back and saying the ID doesn't match even though it does.

Since the last commit to this was several years ago - there is most likely some bugs introduced by newer version of Android.
It would be really nice if CHO45 could integrate this into his webUSB app
...Larry

On Monday, November 11, 2019, 8:13:50 a.m. GMT-5, Oristo <ormpoa@...> wrote:

> Unfortunately I do not have another computer to do that

I found this GitHub project for DFU installation by Android app





Re: 1500Mhz, usable ?

 

On 11/11/2019 15:13, Andy via Groups.Io wrote:
1Hz, wow, that's pretty cool.
I won't write off an upgrade in the future then.
73 de Andy
No don't, I found it really useful for checking an ADS-B RX antenna at 1090MHz. (jpole with 1/4-3/4 wave balun and shorted 1/4 wave stub filter for rtl-sdr dongle))

See attached.

That output was with the antenna un-tweaked after building from nec2c dimensions - very impressed with the results.

Cheers,
Barry
G4MKT


Re: 1500Mhz, usable ?

Andy
 

1Hz, wow, that's pretty cool.
I won't write off an upgrade in the future then.
73 de Andy


Re: 1500Mhz, usable ?

 

Does the newer firmware use lower steps ?
QRP firmware can set 1Hz steps


Re: 1500Mhz, usable ?

 

Hi Andy,
it does. Down to 1Hz, I believe?

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Rune / 5Q5R

On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 at 15:21, Andy via Groups.Io <punkbiscuit=
[email protected]> wrote:

Mine appears to be 100Hz steps.
Test method, use receiver, listen to span set for 300Hz and I can hear 3
distinct tones.
Does the newer firmware use lower steps ?

73 de Andy




Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.5

 

Hello Hans-Peter,
you're right: The algorithm assumes that the first -3dB point it finds is
the -3dB point of the filter. I'm not certain what's a good and generic way
to avoid this to allow filters to have that much ripple?

Suggestions?

--
Rune / 5Q5R

On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 at 15:31, Hans-Peter <dl2khp@...> wrote:

Hello Rune,

First of all many thanks for this great software!
Maybe you can watch the bandwidth calculation again.
A ripple on a bandpass does not capture the filter width correctly.
In the attachment a comparative measurement.

Best regards

Hans-Peter Prast, DL2KHP




Re: Spurs around 300MHz

 

All nanoVNA use the internal SI5351 outside the formal supported spec. e.g. upto 300MHz in fundamental mode. Above 300MHz it switches to harmonics mode (till 900 MHz) and even further harmonics modes above 900MHz
Some do work till 300MHz in fundamental mode , others less good
The latest firmware has the "threshold" command to reduce the maximum frequency for fundamental mode.
Setting (as an example) this the threshold to 280MHz will have the nanoVNA switch to harmonics mode above 280MHz. You may not even notice this.

--
Erik, PD0EK


Spurs around 300MHz

 

Please see the attached pictures. The one in the case I am calling the good one the other one has issues.

1. Spur on display around 300MHz. This appears to change and amplitude but is always there.
2. Spurious data on displayed in the smith chart green trace. This comes and goes.

Any ideas?

Sam
W3OHM


Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.1.5

 

Hello Rune,

First of all many thanks for this great software!
Maybe you can watch the bandwidth calculation again.
A ripple on a bandpass does not capture the filter width correctly.
In the attachment a comparative measurement.

Best regards

Hans-Peter Prast, DL2KHP


Re: Wait for NanoVNA-V2.....

 

F-2 might be a nice instrument to wait for... hopefully w/full 4 port setup extended f range and the larger display.

Really I think there are solutions for the current display issue including the android and laptop/PC software.


Re: Wait for NanoVNA-V2.....

 

I for one would like to see options to hack in a larger screen. Even one
the size of the screen used on the HP/Agilent/Keysight HP8753D. It would be
great to be able to turn one of these into a bench instrument. Maybe a DVI
compatible output or standard VGA. After being used to a HP8753 screen size
it's hard to go back and having the response time of the built in display
is a must.

The smaller ones are great for field work but even those could use a larger
screen. Something like an option to use one of the ones used with the
Raspberry Pi like below would be wonderful.
These displays are very inexpensive:





Sam Reaves
ARS W3OHM
Owner and Moderator of:
LeCroy Owners Group on Groups.io (Current and Future Group)


Re: 1500Mhz, usable ?

Andy
 

Mine appears to be 100Hz steps.
Test method, use receiver, listen to span set for 300Hz and I can hear 3 distinct tones.
Does the newer firmware use lower steps ?

73 de Andy


Re: My NanoVNA is not recognised by DFUse when using V 0.2.3 firmware

 

I've been trying to get this working - keeps coming back and saying the ID doesn't match even though it does.?

Since the last commit to this was several years ago - there is most likely some bugs introduced by newer version of Android.
It would be really nice if CHO45 could integrate this into his webUSB app
...Larry

On Monday, November 11, 2019, 8:13:50 a.m. GMT-5, Oristo <ormpoa@...> wrote:

> Unfortunately I do not have another computer to do that

I found this GitHub project for DFU installation by Android app


Re: 1500Mhz, usable ?

 

I have heard that there are frequency rounding errors on some versions,
but I cannot determine if I have that issue because
I'm not sure how to set it up for a sweep, and advice greatfully received.
If you are using original firmware and touchscreen control, then this map shows
where to set START and STOP frequencies (under STIMULUS)


These settings can be saved, either under CAL or RECALL / SAVE


Re: Duplexfilter tuning question

 

I ordered a set of attenuators on Ebay.
Logarithmic and linear... I'm not at home right now but when I get back, I'll try it on the computer.


Re: 1500Mhz, usable ?

Andy
 

Thanks everyone for the info.

I have what appears to be a two trace version, 900Mhz, and to be honest it appears to be satisfactory.

No crashes etc.

Although there is one thing that I have not yet played with, and that is how to sweep a small signal range for xtal filters.

I have heard that there are frequency rounding errors on some versions, but I cannot determine if I have that issue because
I'm not sure how to set it up for a sweep, and advice greatfully received.

Not too fussed about a battery indicator, since I think it already has one, if I turn it on and there's no display then battery = dead ;-)

I quite like the idea of an auto find lowest SWR etc function, that could be useful, but no deal breaker, I just zoom in a bit more.

So, I guess that I may have aplay at some time,but I'm not in a rush.

73 de Andy


Re: Any plans to publish the NanoVNA board files

 

Google searches don't find specific details about the V2 design
Gabriel is the layout designer and RF engineer
/g/nanovna-users/message/3420
/g/nanovna-users/message/3984
/g/nanovna-users/message/4092
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