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Re: Issue with Live USB Ubuntu running NanoVNA-Saver

 

Hi Ron,
I'm not strong on how to get Python set up, so I trust others who are able
to help to chime in. :-) But, do try the following:

- In "setup.py", change "PyQt5==5.11.2" to just read "PyQt5". This *could*
fix the problem entirely.
- If not, after doing the above, in the folder containing nanovna-saver.py,
run "python3.7 -m pip install ."

I hope one of these works for you ... Do report back if it does! :-)

--
Rune / 5Q5R

On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 03:43, Ron Webb <bigron@...> wrote:

OK... this probably is not so much a problem with NanoVNA-Saver, per se,
but I'm hoping someone can point out what may be wrong. I have a laptop
that I normally boot Windows 10, from which I run NanoVNA-Saver from with
no issues. Lately, I've created an Ubuntu 19.04 Live USB with persistent
memory, as I don't want to create a partition on my laptop. I have
installed python with all the required modules, including "pyqt5", but when
I attempt to start the program, I get the following error:


Traceback (most recent call last):
File "nanovna-saver.py", line 17, in <module>
from NanoVNASaver.__main__ import main
File "/home/ubuntu/Git/nanovna-saver/NanoVNASaver/__main__.py",
line 21, in <module>
from PyQt5 import QtWidgets, QtCore
ImportError: No module named PyQt5


If I type in "pip3 install pyqt5", I get:

Requirement already satisfied: pyqt5 in
/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages (5.12.1)

So, it is already installed... I'm puzzled... Any ideas?




Re: Issue with Live USB Ubuntu running NanoVNA-Saver

 

in <module>
from PyQt5 import QtWidgets, QtCore
ImportError: No module named PyQt5

If I type in "pip3 install pyqt5", I get:

Requirement already satisfied: pyqt5 in /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages (5.12.1)
FWIW, I see this error, but not consistently, on 64-bit Windows 8.1
while running trivial tests of pyqt5
without NanoVNASaver even installed.<<
As a Python newbie, 3 possibilities occur to me:
1) I read that some versions of pyqt5 have been more stable than others
2) Just as Windows uses your %PATH% to find executables,
Python has its own equivalent, which may be screwed up,
e.g. incompatible versions of stuff being found earlier:

import sys
print(sys.path)
3) relative import bug:


[ A similar problem can occur in C with #include "foo.h" vs #include <foo.h>,
but static C builds force that to be resolved once at build time..]


Re: NanoVNA V2 own build with the results

 

Great work Erik - very impressive what can be done at home.

On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 at 18:26, <erik@...> wrote:

This post is somewhat off topic but I am so happy with what I achieved I
felt I earned some bragging rights

For those that need a nanoVNA V2 for tuning their 2GHz antennas there is
no real reason to wait.
If you have a close look at the attached picture you will notice the main
nanoVNA V2 components in a home build.
In the middle back-to-back are two ADF4351 modules. On top of the
aluminium bar on the left is the 0.1MHz till 3GHz bridge and on the right
is a PCB with three IAM81008 mixers dead-bug style. All controlled by an
Arduino zero hiding at the top. Audio goes to a line in of a PC and that is
all you need for a GHz VNA.
With this home build VNA I was able to solve a problem of my home build
2GHz Spectrum Analyzer that is hiding underneath the VNA.
The aluminium bar at the bottom of the picture is actually a 5 resonator
interdigital cavity filter. I have been trying to buy one for a long time
but as I wanted to convert the 2GHz first IF of the SA directly to the
second IF at 10.7MHz I was not able to find one narrow enough and finally
decided to build it myself.
So I first had to build the 35MHz till 3GHz VNA, just like the NanoVNA V2
(although not so portable)
The construction of the cavity filter proved to be doable without any
special tools except a 4mm tap. The aluminium bar for the housing and the
copper rods for the resonators can be bought cheaply per meter.
Tuning the cavity filter proved to be more difficult than expected as
there is absolutely nothing that gets thru if out of tune. So I used a
simple trick that is of interest only for people that want to build their
own cavity filter and now it works!
Center frequency 2019MHz, 2dB bandwith 4MHz. Better than -70dB at 10MHz
offset. Passband attenuation is -7dB
The spectrum analyzer has hardware RBW filters at 300kHz and 30kHz (top
tin box at right) and a log amplifier (top tin box at left) and variable
FFT stitching RBW filters to a minimum resolution of 1Hz. IIP3 is +17dBm
and noise floor at 300kHz BW is around -100dBm.
To prove it is working I added a 0 to 1GHz scan of the spectrum around my
house using a small antenna. You will notice the FM and DAB transmitters
and the rather strong cell phone base stations
Again apologies for the off topic post.

Erik, PD0EK






Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.0.12

 

Hi Tom,
the 2m band limit defaults are set correctly for Europe. The bands are all
manageable ("Manage bands" under Display setup) so you can change any
limits that don't fit your particular location. :-)

I'm not sure what you mean by narrow band limits?

Thanks for trying out the software :-)
--
Rune / 5Q5R

On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 05:50, <pierce@...> wrote:

Downloaded and tried NanoVNA-Saver 0.0.12 today. Worked pretty well. Very
nice indeed. Thank you.
Correct the 2-meter band frequency limits. It did not seem to like narrow
band limits being selected but I was not able to be more specific on that.
Anxious to try updates.
Tom K8EBR




Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.0.12

 

Hi Jeff,
since 0.0.10 NanoVNA-Saver supports reading MA format as well, using
Hz/kHz/MHz/GHz. :-)

I'll look at DB format as well, which would be required for Elsie.

RFSim seems to use a very minimal header (# MHz MA), which isn't exactly
best practice, but I guess I could make the software put in default values
for those that are missing.

Thanks for the links! :-)
--
Rune

On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 00:52, Jeff Anderson <jca1955@...> wrote:

On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 03:40 PM, Jeff Anderson wrote:


So, for me (and my Matlab-generated files), it would be great if you also
supported loading and storing files using MHZ in lieu of HZ..

NanoVNA-Saver can already read and save in RI format (I believe). If you
were
to add the reading of files in DB or MA formats, this would require
mathematical conversions. Not difficult, but more code.
Just in case my comment is misinterpreted -- I didn't mean to sound like
I was only pitching adding MHZ and nothing else. I'd recommend adding DB
and MA formats, as the math conversions should be straightforward.

- Jeff




Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.0.12

 

I wrote Jim, W4EME, about implementing S-file data in Elsie. It is there already he told me. However, I get this error when trying to load the file: 2019-09-30 07:53:56,084 - NanoVNASaver.Touchstone - WARNING - Read line without having read header: 3E+08 -.0273661 -94.79335 -89.91359 -7.727735 -89.91359 -7.727735 -1.876088E-02 -108.5768

Attached is the top of an Elsie file.

Perhaps I am doing something wrong when trying with Elsie and RFSim99 files?

Bo


Re: Cal-Kit Standards' Definitions

 

Kurt.

Thanks for these documents, I updated the link as this will work




It helped me to understand some calibration problems w.r.t. reference planes

Erik.


Re: Cal-Kit Standards' Definitions

 

Mr. Poulsen, very nice pages and work. Great primer explaining reference planes and delays. I think I'm going to have to read it a few times to absorb everything. I hope someone will modify the calibration instructions in the group files section to include your suggestion and reasoning for not using the open load during calibration.

Jim KA6TPR


Re: NanoVNA-Saver 0.0.12

 

Downloaded and tried NanoVNA-Saver 0.0.12 today. Worked pretty well. Very nice indeed. Thank you.
Correct the 2-meter band frequency limits. It did not seem to like narrow band limits being selected but I was not able to be more specific on that.
Anxious to try updates.
Tom K8EBR


Re: Upgrade nanovna Win10 x64

 

I had same problem too.
move to shorter directory to fix it.


Re: Your NanoVNA version

 

How can you tell it is a bad clone?


Re: This is the most active group/list I subscribe to

 

I agree that this is a very active group. I know that many of the topics revolve around NanoVNA-Saver and others are about firmware and further hardware development. All of them about this and future evolutions of the NanoVNA.


Re: This is the most active group/list I subscribe to

 

Well, it's a new hot product with a lot of people getting up to speed.? Plus V2 is under discussion, with a lot of suggestions.? I suspect it will taper off...
Mike WY6K


"... somewhere in the distance, there's a tower and a light, broadcastin' the resistance, through the rain and through the night..."

On Sunday, September 29, 2019, 9:17:11 PM CDT, Stuart Landau via Groups.Io <stuartl73@...> wrote:

I agree with you Dave; sometimes it is like "drinking from a fire hose". This is an extraordinarily?active site; it is difficult to try to read the messages that interest me.?I don't know what the answer is. I have thought of getting another email address especially for this group.
Stuart K6YAZLos Angeles, USA



-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd <drkirkby@...>
To: nanovna-users <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2019 6:02 pm
Subject: [nanovna-users] This is the most active group/list I subscribe to

I am on about a dozen different groups for various things

* Website design
* Graphics
* Keysight groups for VNAs
* Keysight group for LCR meters
* A couple of UK based amateur radio sites
* GNU cash
* SageMATH? mathematics software
* UK microwaves
* HP/Agilent/Keysight (I am owner)
* VNWA

There¡¯s more messages from this group than any other - and possibly all the
others combined. ????

I am not sure if that¡¯s a good thing or not. If the popularity of the list
grows much more, I will probably have to start muting topics.

Maybe if the popularity grows much more, the group owners might want to
consider splitting the group, another group, hashtags, subgroups or
anything else that is needed to keep the volume of emails to an acceptable
level.


Dave

--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
drkirkby@...

Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100

Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892.
Registered office:
Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United
Kingdom


Re: This is the most active group/list I subscribe to

 

I agree with you Dave; sometimes it is like "drinking from a fire hose". This is an extraordinarily?active site; it is difficult to try to read the messages that interest me.?I don't know what the answer is. I have thought of getting another email address especially for this group.
Stuart K6YAZLos Angeles, USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd <drkirkby@...>
To: nanovna-users <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2019 6:02 pm
Subject: [nanovna-users] This is the most active group/list I subscribe to

I am on about a dozen different groups for various things

* Website design
* Graphics
* Keysight groups for VNAs
* Keysight group for LCR meters
* A couple of UK based amateur radio sites
* GNU cash
* SageMATH? mathematics software
* UK microwaves
* HP/Agilent/Keysight (I am owner)
* VNWA

There¡¯s more messages from this group than any other - and possibly all the
others combined. ????

I am not sure if that¡¯s a good thing or not. If the popularity of the list
grows much more, I will probably have to start muting topics.

Maybe if the popularity grows much more, the group owners might want to
consider splitting the group, another group, hashtags, subgroups or
anything else that is needed to keep the volume of emails to an acceptable
level.


Dave

--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
drkirkby@...

Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100

Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892.
Registered office:
Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United
Kingdom


Re: nanovna Battery Specifications

Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd
 

On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 at 21:39, Warren Allgyer <allgyer@...> wrote:

Dr. Dave

I already noted that you cannot see the -60 dB point on a filter in
through mode with a dynamic range of 40 dB. And I already noted that 99% of
the time I personally do not need to see the 60 dB point and that for the
1% I can add an amp to the source.

I am sorry I didn¡¯t read further down your post.

And I am glad you have such equipment because between talking about that
and your self promotion there is very little meat left in your posts.

Given how you feel about me and my posts, why not just send my messages to
Bin/Trash/Spam or similar in your email client?

Dave
--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
drkirkby@...

Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100

Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892.
Registered office:
Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United
Kingdom


Issue with Live USB Ubuntu running NanoVNA-Saver

 

OK... this probably is not so much a problem with NanoVNA-Saver, per se, but I'm hoping someone can point out what may be wrong. I have a laptop that I normally boot Windows 10, from which I run NanoVNA-Saver from with no issues. Lately, I've created an Ubuntu 19.04 Live USB with persistent memory, as I don't want to create a partition on my laptop. I have installed python with all the required modules, including "pyqt5", but when I attempt to start the program, I get the following error:


Traceback (most recent call last):
File "nanovna-saver.py", line 17, in <module>
from NanoVNASaver.__main__ import main
File "/home/ubuntu/Git/nanovna-saver/NanoVNASaver/__main__.py", line 21, in <module>
from PyQt5 import QtWidgets, QtCore
ImportError: No module named PyQt5


If I type in "pip3 install pyqt5", I get:

Requirement already satisfied: pyqt5 in /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages (5.12.1)

So, it is already installed... I'm puzzled... Any ideas?


Re: This is the most active group/list I subscribe to

 

It's great now.? Don't screw it up.
Mike WY6K


"... somewhere in the distance, there's a tower and a light, broadcastin' the resistance, through the rain and through the night..."

On Sunday, September 29, 2019, 8:02:01 PM CDT, Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd <drkirkby@...> wrote:

I am on about a dozen different groups for various things

* Website design
* Graphics
* Keysight groups for VNAs
* Keysight group for LCR meters
* A couple of UK based amateur radio sites
* GNU cash
* SageMATH? mathematics software
* UK microwaves
* HP/Agilent/Keysight (I am owner)
* VNWA

There¡¯s more messages from this group than any other - and possibly all the
others combined. ????

I am not sure if that¡¯s a good thing or not. If the popularity of the list
grows much more, I will probably have to start muting topics.

Maybe if the popularity grows much more, the group owners might want to
consider splitting the group, another group, hashtags, subgroups or
anything else that is needed to keep the volume of emails to an acceptable
level.


Dave

--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
drkirkby@...

Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100

Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892.
Registered office:
Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United
Kingdom


Re: nanovna Battery Specifications

 

if you prefer the extremely detailed information (the kind written by committee and likely to make your eyes water) :-P


This is the most active group/list I subscribe to

Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd
 

I am on about a dozen different groups for various things

* Website design
* Graphics
* Keysight groups for VNAs
* Keysight group for LCR meters
* A couple of UK based amateur radio sites
* GNU cash
* SageMATH mathematics software
* UK microwaves
* HP/Agilent/Keysight (I am owner)
* VNWA

There¡¯s more messages from this group than any other - and possibly all the
others combined. ????

I am not sure if that¡¯s a good thing or not. If the popularity of the list
grows much more, I will probably have to start muting topics.

Maybe if the popularity grows much more, the group owners might want to
consider splitting the group, another group, hashtags, subgroups or
anything else that is needed to keep the volume of emails to an acceptable
level.


Dave

--
Dr. David Kirkby,
Kirkby Microwave Ltd,
drkirkby@...

Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100

Registered in England & Wales, company number 08914892.
Registered office:
Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United
Kingdom


Re: Errors of error models. Who is following this and who is confused,

 

See post #3 2984 from YZA for links to the aforementioned pdf¡¯s. No epiphany here yet though.


--
73

Gary, N3GO