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some Nano VNA SAVER 40m antenna graphs

 

Getting Ready for the new


**** MidAtlantic 40m NBEMS net ****



testing: Saturday and Sunday 10 AM EDT on 7068 kHz (vfo)

coverage over a 300 mile radius from Philadelphia

THOR 22 check in

THOR 56 traffic (new alpha mode: w1hkj.com/alpha)


Hope to have the net begin by October 7/8 2023

Need 5-8 net control ops from the MidAtlantic region



I now have three 40m antennas to compare prop paths

1) Traditional Inv V dipole, center fed with 1:1 BALUN 66 ft

2) Full one-wave horizontal loop (140 ft)

3) 34 ft alum tubing Vertical (lashed to a tall tree) with two above gnd 30 ft radials

and matching coil at base (like an inverted T )


I had to mess a bit with the length of vertical to get it resonant where I wanted it.


de k3eui barry Aug 22 2023


Re: Buying new VNA

 

Nuno, I was pretty happy with my NanoVNA-F V2 until it randomly died on me. It lasted nearly 2 years though and had zero issues with it before it died. I took a gamble and purchased the SV4401A because I wanted more accuracy (and range) out of a portable VNA.

The SV4401A is *not* light nor compact. So far, I'm very happy with my unit. The firmware is fairly stable, so I have no complaints.



I purchased mine from E-Bay from a China seller. I got mine in about 8 days which was pretty quick.


-Nick, k7cj


Re: Buying new VNA

 

I forgot to add this link


Re: Buying new VNA

 

On 8/21/23 8:45 AM, Leif M wrote:
Likewise. I would recommend V2 Plus4 or V2 Plus4 PRO from an official store. There are several other version but I like V2 Plus4. Today perhaps PRO version. Battery lasts a long time and results are good enough. If the tool works at 4GHZ, it will surely be good at 50MHz and 1GHz. I am not totally satisfied with PC software. It is usable but not well finished.
Then there is the VNA6000.
The only potential downside to the V2 is that they are more sensitive to ESD, because they have a monolithic RF switch at the input.


Re: Buying new VNA

 

Likewise. I would recommend V2 Plus4 or V2 Plus4 PRO from an official store. There are several other version but I like V2 Plus4. Today perhaps PRO version. Battery lasts a long time and results are good enough. If the tool works at 4GHZ, it will surely be good at 50MHz and 1GHz. I am not totally satisfied with PC software. It is usable but not well finished.

Then there is the VNA6000.


what fw

 

i have finaly got my pc to tato the vna,ready to load fw,can anyone tell me what FW has the biggest fonts with the most save slots,thanks.


Re: Buying new VNA

 

Is not easy as you said. It needs to be new design and higher speed components. See link:

FC


missing driver

 

Hi,i tried using teraterm on my vna,it connected ok using com 19,i ran learconfig 1234,now it wont connect to my pc,terraterm only sees com 1 not 10,the stm32 bootloader tab in device manager says cant find driver,i assume this is my issue,its like my win 10 64bit pc cant see my nanovna anymore,any ideas how i can fix it?,or where to find the drivers?,cheers+73.


Re: hi how so i run console comands on my vna,its the first version.

 

Connect it via USB and open the serial port in a terminal program, bitrate etc. is not relevant. Type e.g. "help" to see the available commands.


hi how so i run console comands on my vna,its the first version.

 

Do i need to connect it to my pc,if so how,i see no guides for doing it.thanks+73


Re: Buying new VNA

 

I have two other nanoVNAs but I find myself reaching for the SAA-2N most often. The calibration kit and cables provided are of good quality and have held up (so far). For higher frequencies I have a LibreVNA but it is in a different class of instruments and an order of magnitude more costly.
73, Don N2VGU


Re: Buying new VNA

 

many of the models can be easy improved (lower noise above 2 ghz with just some decoupling caps added) .. i bet yours is similar :-)

dg9bfc sigi

ps welcome in the group of fancy smith diagramms , antenna tests and other nice things your can test with the nanos

Am 19.08.2023 um 16:31 schrieb fcusa@...:

Hi, I just got my SAA-V2 clone 3.2" "black and gold" (info link ) from ebay.
I'm very happy with it. Cost less then $100 and cover up to 4GHz can also measure my wifi and cellphone gears.

Have a good day.
FC




Re: Buying new VNA

 

I have the H H4 SAA2N and the F models and use them in different applications. If you intend to use it outdoors I strongly recommend the F model with the pushbuttons. It has the brightest display which is necessary outdoors.
The buttons are easier to control? than the thumbwheel switch.

The different vnas have different adapters, such as BNC, UHF and N connectors. I use BNC, UHF and BNC OSLThru cal kits for each device.

Mike N2MS


On 08/19/2023 11:08 AM EDT David J Taylor via groups.io < david-taylor@...
wrote:

On 19/08/2023 13:34, Nuno Lopes - CT2IRY via groups.io wrote:

Hi guys, this is my first post here, I would like an advice to buy a new
VNA, my main operation is till 50MHz, but eventually I can operate till
1.2GHz, what would be a good VNA to buy, H4; F; SAA.
Can anyone recommend one.

Thanks
Nuno
CT2IRY
Welcome to the group, Nuno.

Do take a look at the Wiki:

/g/nanovna-users/wiki

Whatever you get, buy from the original manufacturer if at all possible.
Avoid
clones! I have several NanoVNA models and am happy with the H4 and its SMA

connectors (the H4 is reputed to need regular charging every few months as
the
physical on-off switch still leaves some slight drain).

Consider whether you want to use it outdoors, and whether SMA or N-type
connectors are better for you. Do you need to measure crystal filters?

Others will doubtless chip in with their own choice!

73,
David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web:
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv





Re: Buying new VNA

 

Hi, I just got my SAA-V2 clone 3.2" "black and gold" (info link ) from ebay.
I'm very happy with it. Cost less then $100 and cover up to 4GHz can also measure my wifi and cellphone gears.

Have a good day.
FC


Re: Buying new VNA

 

On 19/08/2023 13:34, Nuno Lopes - CT2IRY via groups.io wrote:
Hi guys, this is my first post here, I would like an advice to buy a new VNA, my main operation is till 50MHz, but eventually I can operate till 1.2GHz, what would be a good VNA to buy, H4; F; SAA.
Can anyone recommend one.

Thanks
Nuno
CT2IRY
Welcome to the group, Nuno.

Do take a look at the Wiki:

/g/nanovna-users/wiki

Whatever you get, buy from the original manufacturer if at all possible. Avoid
clones! I have several NanoVNA models and am happy with the H4 and its SMA
connectors (the H4 is reputed to need regular charging every few months as the
physical on-off switch still leaves some slight drain).

Consider whether you want to use it outdoors, and whether SMA or N-type
connectors are better for you. Do you need to measure crystal filters?

Others will doubtless chip in with their own choice!

73,
David GM8ARV
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web:
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


Buying new VNA

 

Hi guys, this is my first post here, I would like an advice to buy a new VNA, my main operation is till 50MHz, but eventually I can operate till 1.2GHz, what would be a good VNA to buy, H4; F; SAA.
Can anyone recommend one.

Thanks
Nuno
CT2IRY


Re: Nano VNA Firmware Upgrade

 

I have.
Luckily it was still within the return period on ebay


Re: Nano VNA Firmware Upgrade

 

So far I haven't seen any incompatible clones of the Nano H or H4.
Maybe I missed some ...

On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 at 16:39, KD2YYI <tim.sooley@...> wrote:

While that is technically true, its only possible if you either made a backup of the firmware on the unit prior to flashing the new firmware or were able to find the firmware originally on the unit.





Re: Unwrapping Phase

 

On 8/18/23 8:15 AM, Brian Beezley wrote:
On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 09:25 PM, Jim Lux wrote:


Sometimes, I find the derivative of unwrapped phase (group delay) more useful,
too.
Jim, your comment inspired me to add group delay to my program. I don't see its relevance for ground probe data, but it provides a powerful diagnostic tool that can reveal anomalies otherwise invisible. The first two plots show an ordinary-looking phase plot and the corresponding group delay plot. The big group delay spike corresponds to a barely perceptible flat spot in the phase curve. It's easier to see in the third plot with a narrower frequency span. I think it's due to a VNA frequency stepping issue.
Yeah, derivatives do accentuate noise - but sometimes that's actually useful to spot a discontinuity in a system that should otherwise be "smooth" And when you have multiple resonances, is makes them obvious.


Re: Unwrapping Phase

 

Make sure you are taking frequency steps that are small wrt to the DUT bandwidth. GD on a xtal filter is one example.