Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
I assume that you will be aligning this antenna in the broadcast band. So be careful about strong signals from nearby stations. 73, Maynard W6PAP
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Maynard Wright, P. E., W6PAP
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Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
That antenna looks like a 100k reactance capacitor at 1 MHz. (about 1.5 pF) The coax probably is something like 50 pF, so even without the radio in the mix, you're looking at a 1:30 voltage divider.
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Jim Lux
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Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
It will let you align the front-end more accurately. Check the radio alignment instructions. If there are no adjustments for the front-end, then it doesn't matter. Just connect the generator directly
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Brian Beezley
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Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
Thanks for answering my post guys. Some additional information: here's a photograph of the whole antenna network. The antenna is about 43cm in length from the central stud of the base to the tip of
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AArnaud
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Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
True! The three expressions in the figure represent the exact formula, a low frequency approximation, and a high frequency approximation. On the logarithmic scale of the figure, the low frequency
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Maynard Wright, P. E., W6PAP
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Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
It's best to measure the antenna with the VNA as the antenna will be used. Mounted on the car, outside, doors closed, away from large metal structures, etc.
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Ed AB1XQ
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Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
The impedance presented to the front-end can affect tuned-circuit tracking and Q in the RF amplifier, which can affect receiver sensitivity. It can affect receiver selectivity if the tuned circuits
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Brian Beezley
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Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
If you need to do an alignment on an FM radio you need an RF signal generator not a VNA. In my case I used the TinySA to generate the IF frequency, probably 10.7 MHz in your case, and the RF
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Terry W7AMI
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Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
I remember a form of low loss cable that was popular in the 1980-90's the size of rg-8 (can't remember the brandname). It had a spiral plastic dielectric and I used a run of it for a UHF antenna.?
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Joe
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Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
exactly. You want low epsilon of the dielectric and foam tube or a spiral of plastic meets the requirement nicely. To that extent it's like minimizing dielectric losses in microwave cables, but for a
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Jim Lux
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Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
Maybe that explains an automobile antenna I found once in the past.? I was surprised that what looked like coax was actually a piece of plastic tubing, maybe 1/4" I.D., with a thin wire running
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Joe
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Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
The big requirement for coax on voltage probes is low capacitance - you generally don't worry about impedance. That's because the antenna is largely capacitive (so it looks like a voltage in series
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Jim Lux
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Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
What I would do is use a NanoVNA to measure the impedance over 88-108 MHz right at the connector that plugs into the radio. Average the measurements for several cars. Then design a network that
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Brian Beezley
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Re: Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
The high-Z coaxial cable is more for the AM portion of the radio. On AM frequencies, especially the European version, the "stinger" antenna is nothing but a capacitive probe. Consequently, it presents
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W0LEV
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Dummy Antenna and FM Alignment
Hey everyone, True beginner in RF here for a classic alignment question. Sorry if this is inappropriate or the wrong group, I'm not sure where to ask such question. I suppose the NanoVNA would be a
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AArnaud
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Re: NANO VNA H4 , Implausible measurement results?
If you used this BNC to Banana adapter, you are adding about 2 pF or so of shunt capacitance across the feed point of your test dipole. At 500 MHz for example, this is about Xc = 159 ohms. This is
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WB2UAQ
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Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
This is the part of LF model that don¡¯t work basically because is the wrong frequency region¡
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Patricio Greco
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Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
Hi Patricio Thanks for clarification , I do not understand this graphic zone circled on red color below 73's Nizar
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Team-SIM SIM-Mode
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Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
This chart shows the typical behaviour of a loosy coaxial cable over frequency. Basically there are two models , the low frequency model in this case the dielectric loose are very small then G tends
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Patricio Greco
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Re: Measurement correction for Zc Coax caracteristic Impedance
Hi With same coax, same method, same NanoVNA H4 (1.2.40 DiSlord) surprisingly i have some different Zc values for 50Mhz & 100Mhz 50Mhz ---> Zc = 49.0 Ohm 100Mhz ---> Zc = 43.5 Ohm 73's Nizar 2Mhz --->
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Team-SIM SIM-Mode
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