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Hi
I am attempting? to set up a new group due to the Yahoo betrayal.
I just tried? in import a database (csv) but nothing happened.
I took a shot at a manual build but can't seem to make it format
the way
to which my group is accustomed and when I've made errors, I can't
seem to
correct or remove them without? deleting the whole thing and
starting over.
Suggestions?
Like to know before I try anything else ( like importing the
group/archived images, etc.).
Rob
CrittersDen ( new)
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You should subscribe to the group managers forum on groups.io. They address questions like this.
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Vincent Winterling
Vineland, NJ
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Hi
I am attempting? to set up a new group due to the Yahoo betrayal.
I just tried? in import a database (csv) but nothing happened.
I took a shot at a manual build but can't seem to make it format the way
to which my group is accustomed and when I've made errors, I can't seem to
correct or remove them without? deleting the whole thing and starting over.
Suggestions?
Like to know before I try anything else ( like importing the group/archived images, etc.).
Rob
CrittersDen ( new)
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Hi
I am attempting? to set up a new group due to the Yahoo
betrayal.
I just tried? in import a database (csv) but nothing happened.
I took a shot at a manual build but can't seem to make it format
the way
to which my group is accustomed and when I've made errors, I
can't seem to
correct or remove them without? deleting the whole thing and
starting over.
Suggestions?
Like to know before I try anything else ( like importing the
group/archived images, etc.).
Rob
CrittersDen ( new)
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Here’s the download tool:
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Vincent Winterling
Vineland, NJ
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On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 8:28 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [macsupportcentral] Importing Database
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Hi
I am attempting? to set up a new group due to the Yahoo betrayal.
I just tried? in import a database (csv) but nothing happened.
I took a shot at a manual build but can't seem to make it format the way
to which my group is accustomed and when I've made errors, I can't seem to
correct or remove them without? deleting the whole thing and starting over.
Suggestions?
Like to know before I try anything else ( like importing the group/archived images, etc.).
Rob
CrittersDen ( new)
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Was there a charge in transferring the group from yahoo to groups.io?
Bob
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On Oct 19, 2019, at 12:29 PM, robert morin <rbmorin11@...> wrote:
?Was there a charge in transferring the group from yahoo to groups.io?
Bob No. I manually transferred all the members and we are not transferring any of the archived conversations. Dave
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Is there a good reason to not transfer the groups archived post? I did not see any discussion about this.
Two other groups I am in have transferred all their posts; 15 and 13 years respectively. Surely space is not an issue and being able to occasionally consult older posts can be useful and may avoid re-asking the same question.
Karl W
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Yeah, 110 good reasons. The group would have to upgrade to a premium group which costs $110. I don’t think it is worth the money to do that. Most of the information that has been discussed in the past 20 years is either obsolete now or searchable on the internet and the rest can be asked about and answered by group members.
Dave
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 5:24 PM, Karl Winkelmann <ww2censor@...> wrote:
Is there a good reason to not transfer the groups archived post? I did not see any discussion about this.
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I'll give you 110 reasons, it cost $110 dollars. Reason #111, very few people use the archives and most is outdated.
#112, some member didn't have access depending upon how they joined yahoo groups, so they must not be critical.
I joined using an email, not by joining yahoo groups and then joining MSC. I've been a member since 2011 and have never has access to the archives. $110 is about 50 cents per active member. I am guessing that is about $25 per user of the archives.
On the oldest online MUG, the went with the option of taking donations. It is also one of the larger yahoo groups if you take the yahoo stats verbatim. So far 86 active members have moved over, and taken in about $50 in donations.
Brent
Mac user since 1998
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Karl Winkelmann wrote: Is there a good reason to not transfer the groups archived post? I did not see any discussion about this.
Two other groups I am in have transferred all their posts; 15 and 13 years respectively. Surely space is not an issue and being able to occasionally consult older posts can be useful and may avoid re-asking the same question.
Karl W
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Fair comment Brent and Dave. I did not know there was a charge to get ones own group posts out of Yahoo. I doubt many groups will go for that.
Thanks
Karl W
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I keep all messages from my groups and can search?them if required. I doubt I'm the only?one.
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 00:32, Dave Kelly via Groups.Io <drkelly= [email protected]> wrote: Yeah, 110 good reasons. The group would have to upgrade to a premium group which costs $110. I don’t think it is worth the money to do that. Most of the information that has been discussed in the past 20 years is either obsolete now or searchable on the internet and the rest can be asked about and answered by group members.
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There is a third party app which will download all content from a Yahoo Group. It's Windows-only, and I don't know if you can upload?that same content to . <>
Otto
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 01:30, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678= [email protected]> wrote: I'll give you 110 reasons, it cost $110 dollars. Reason #111, very few people use the archives and most is outdated.
#112, some member didn't have access depending upon how they joined yahoo groups, so they must not be critical.
I joined using an email, not by joining yahoo groups and then joining MSC. I've been a member since 2011 and have never has access to the archives. $110 is about 50 cents per active member. I am guessing that is about $25 per user of the archives.
On the oldest online MUG, the went with the option of taking donations. It is also one of the larger yahoo groups if you take the yahoo stats verbatim. So far 86 active members have moved over, and taken in about $50 in donations.
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There is a third party app which will download all content from a Yahoo Group. It's Windows-only, and I don't know if you can upload?that same content to?.
Otto, are we now changing to Top Posting? The last several posts are in the Top Posted format, and that’s a VERY old debate, but if I were allowed a vote it would obviously be for bottom-posting, because it preseves the essence of an email conversation. It’s trivially more difficult to use, but eminently more readable.
Thanks so much,
Jim Robertson
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 15:37, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson= [email protected]> wrote:
There is a third party app which will download all content from a Yahoo Group. It's Windows-only, and I don't know if you can upload?that same content to?.
Otto, are we now changing to Top Posting? The last several posts are in the Top Posted format, and that’s a VERY old debate, but if I were allowed a vote it would obviously be for bottom-posting, because it preseves the essence of an email conversation. It’s trivially more difficult to use, but eminently more readable.
We have never had rules about that here. My preference is for top-posting, so I can see the latest?reply immediately without scrolling through stuff I've already read, but if others bottom-post first?I follow that to avoid jumbling the sequence (as here).?
What is *much* more important is that replies quote at least part of the message they are responding to!
Otto?
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Thanks, Otto! ?I agree with your comments. ?I can easily bottom-post from my iMac, but not so much from my iPad.
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 8:52 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
? On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 15:37, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson= [email protected]> wrote:
There is a third party app which will download all content from a Yahoo Group. It's Windows-only, and I don't know if you can upload?that same content to?.
Otto, are we now changing to Top Posting? The last several posts are in the Top Posted format, and that’s a VERY old debate, but if I were allowed a vote it would obviously be for bottom-posting, because it preseves the essence of an email conversation. It’s trivially more difficult to use, but eminently more readable.
We have never had rules about that here. My preference is for top-posting, so I can see the latest?reply immediately without scrolling through stuff I've already read, but if others bottom-post first?I follow that to avoid jumbling the sequence (as here).?
What is *much* more important is that replies quote at least part of the message they are responding to!
Otto?
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Pat Taylor via Groups.Io < pat412@...> wrote:
Thanks, Otto! ?I agree with your comments. ?I can easily bottom-post from my iMac, but not so much from my iPad.
Actually, I don’t have much trouble bottom-posting even from my iPhone, and I’m one of those long-over-30 guys for whom all that’s needed to use the iPhone is an intact non-dominant hand to hold it and a forefinger to stab its screen.
I also agree that not enforcing one or the other mode on users is probably better (of course with hopes that the logic of bottom posting will win the day ?
Jim Robertson
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Yebbut, we've just jumbled the sequence!
Otto
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 16:02, Pat Taylor via Groups.Io <pat412= [email protected]> wrote: Thanks, Otto!? I agree with your comments.? I can easily bottom-post from my iMac, but not so much from my iPad.
Pat Pro On Oct 22, 2019, at 8:52 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus=[email protected]> wrote:
? On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 15:37, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson= [email protected]> wrote:
There is a third party app which will download all content from a Yahoo Group. It's Windows-only, and I don't know if you can upload?that same content to?.
Otto, are we now changing to Top Posting? The last several posts are in the Top Posted format, and that’s a VERY old debate, but if I were allowed a vote it would obviously be for bottom-posting, because it preseves the essence of an email conversation. It’s trivially more difficult to use, but eminently more readable.
We have never had rules about that here. My preference is for top-posting, so I can see the latest?reply immediately without scrolling through stuff I've already read, but if others bottom-post first?I follow that to avoid jumbling the sequence (as here).?
What is *much* more important is that replies quote at least part of the message they are responding to!
Otto?
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 16:21, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson= [email protected]> wrote: On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Pat Taylor via Groups.Io < pat412@...> wrote:
Thanks, Otto!? I agree with your comments.? I can easily bottom-post from my iMac, but not so much from my iPad.
Actually, I don’t have much trouble bottom-posting even from my iPhone, and I’m one of those long-over-30 guys for whom all that’s needed to use the iPhone is an intact non-dominant hand to hold it and a forefinger to stab its screen.
I also agree that not enforcing one or the other mode on users is probably better (of course with hopes that the logic of bottom posting will win the day ?
Logic? (Here we go.)?
When you file papers, receipts, etc., in a box-file, what order are they in?
Otto
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If you’re using the ?web site it is easier to bottom post. Using mail.app it is easier to top post.
We had decided long ago (and every time this discussion comes up) that as long as the replies quote at least part of the message (as Otto mentioned) that either top or bottom is ok.?
Quoting takes just a bit more thought when replying on the ?web site since replies just follow the preceding messages. You have to remember to reference the quoted message specifically since email reply won’t necessarily be looking at the previous messages.
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 15:37, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson= [email protected]> wrote:
There is a third party app which will download all content from a Yahoo Group. It's Windows-only, and I don't know if you can upload?that same content to?.
Otto, are we now changing to Top Posting? The last several posts are in the Top Posted format, and that’s a VERY old debate, but if I were allowed a vote it would obviously be for bottom-posting, because it preseves the essence of an email conversation. It’s trivially more difficult to use, but eminently more readable.
We have never had rules about that here. My preference is for top-posting, so I can see the latest?reply immediately without scrolling through stuff I've already read, but if others bottom-post first?I follow that to avoid jumbling the sequence (as here).?
What is *much* more important is that replies quote at least part of the message they are responding to!
Otto?
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Ok, we’re done with this the topic of top or bottom posting (which hijacked the original topic). Please no more post about top or bottom posting.
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On Oct 22, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Dave Kelly via Groups.Io < drkelly@...> wrote:
We had decided long ago (and every time this discussion comes up) that as long as the replies quote at least part of the message (as Otto mentioned) that either top or bottom is ok.?
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Dave Kelly
Brent
Pat Taylor