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?I noticed mobilemesyncclientagent in my startup folder. What is it and do I need it? My Google search was a waste of time.

2100 MacBook Pro
OS High Sierra 10.13.6

I also have something called extended survey program which is disabled. what is it and do I need it.


 

Howdy.

Found on an Apple KB.
"They were parts of an older OS and no longer exist. The launchd plists
should have been removed. The part that is wrong are the plists, not
the executables."

Extended Survey Program.
This <might> be some kind of, well, survey program by Canon. I'm not
sure about this. Do you have a Canon printer/scanner??

Denver Dan



On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 13:30:00 -0500, Bob Stern via Groups.Io wrote:
I noticed mobilemesyncclientagent in my startup folder. What is it
and do I need it? My Google search was a waste of time.

2100 MacBook Pro
OS High Sierra 10.13.6

I also have something called extended survey program which is
disabled. what is it and do I need it.
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Daniel,
I am using the “reply on line” option but don’t know for sure if all the content will appear.

thanks for your response,

yes, I have Canon printers and scanners and cameras.


 

You used that option within what, the web site, digest, or your favorite third party email app?

I assume the digest, and it does a horrible job of quoting and gives no attribution.

Brent


On Nov 6, 2019, at 7:09 PM, Bob Stern via Groups.Io wrote:

Daniel,
I am using the “reply on line” option but don’t know for sure if all the content will appear.

thanks for your response,

yes, I have Canon printers and scanners and cameras.


 

This time I copied and pasted.

I use the Apple Mail program.

In the digests there is at the bottom of each message options to reply. I used The “View/Reply online” option.?

As I am typing this on my iPad I noticed a button to “Show quoted text.” I tapped that button because I am curious as to how that will display this response.






You used that option within what, the web site, digest, or your favorite third party email app?
?
I assume the digest, and it does a horrible job of quoting and gives no attribution.
?
Brent


 

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It would be better if it showed when the quote started and ended like older versions of Mail.app. I like clarify in communication.

Brent,
on my iPad

On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:39 AM, Bob Stern via Groups.Io <bobbystern@...> wrote:

This time I copied and pasted.

I use the Apple Mail program.

In the digests there is at the bottom of each message options to reply. I used The “View/Reply online” option.?

As I am typing this on my iPad I noticed a button to “Show quoted text.” I tapped that button because I am curious as to how that will display this response.






You used that option within what, the web site, digest, or your favorite third party email app?
?
I assume the digest, and it does a horrible job of quoting and gives no attribution.
?
Brent


 

Using the Apple mail.app, I am replying to this post. Please notice that (at least on my screen) the quoted text is BLUE and acknowledges the original poster. Apple mail.app seems to work as it always has. Of course, YMMV.

On Nov 7, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678@...> wrote:

It would be better if it showed when the quote started and ended like older versions of Mail.app. I like clarify in communication.
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Howdy.

The startup "thing" might be some kind of Canon survey.

I'd check Library and Preference folders for odd Canon things and check
the Canon web sites for a reference to this.

Denver Dan


On Wed, 06 Nov 2019 19:09:35 -0800, Bob Stern via Groups.Io wrote:
I am using the “reply on line” option but don’t know for sure if
all the content will appear.

thanks for your response,

yes, I have Canon printers and scanners and cameras.
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Bob, it came through on my end with the quote in blue, "On (date & time etc)" with the line along the left edge. This make it very easy to recognize as a quote from who and when.

This is how I prefer to see it done.

Brent

On Nov 7, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Bob Beckham via Groups.Io wrote:

Using the Apple mail.app, I am replying to this post. Please notice that (at least on my screen) the quoted text is BLUE and acknowledges the original poster. Apple mail.app seems to work as it always has. Of course, YMMV.

On Nov 7, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678@...> wrote:

It would be better if it showed when the quote started and ended like older versions of Mail.app. I like clarify in communication.
Bob ’The Beckster’ Beckham
FCC RadioTelephone Licence P1-6S-2422 w/Radar endorsement.
Apple iMac 27” Late 2012 - macOS 10.15.1 - RAM 16 Gig
2019 Harley-Davidson FLHTK Ultra Limited
1993 Allen MDS Theater 2






















 

Yeahhhh, that is how I like quotes! I had a question, and I was able to quickly find Bob's email.

My apologies for stealing the thread, and I 'ppreciate, others allowing us to test a few quotation methods within this thread.

Humbly,

Brent

On Nov 7, 2019, at 10:53 AM, Daniel Settles wrote:

Howdy.

The startup "thing" might be some kind of Canon survey.

I'd check Library and Preference folders for odd Canon things and check
the Canon web sites for a reference to this.

Denver Dan


On Wed, 06 Nov 2019 19:09:35 -0800, Bob Stern via Groups.Io wrote:
I am using the “reply on line” option but don’t know for sure if
all the content will appear.


 

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From the groups.io email digest...
Using iOS the “Show quoted text” button had no affect on my reply.
Using iOS I can’t show the quoted content without copying and pasting.

Perhaps it works differently on a Mac.
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From:?
Bob Stern
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 06:39:42 PST?

This time I copied and pasted.

I use the Apple Mail program.

In the digests there is at the bottom of each message options to reply. I used The “View/Reply online” option.?

As I am typing this on my iPad I noticed a button to “Show quoted text.” I tapped that button because I am curious as to how that will display this response.


You used that option within what, the web site, digest, or your favorite third party email app?
?
I assume the digest, and it does a horrible job of quoting and gives no attribution.
?
Brent


 

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Glad it worked for you. It is not working for me on my iPad.


From:?
Brent
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 13:31:06 PST?

Bob, it came through on my end with the quote in blue, "On (date & time etc)" with the line along the left edge. This make it very easy to recognize as a quote from who and when.

This is how I prefer to see it done.?

Brent


 

Yes, it works somewhat differently on a Mac.

Using iPad or iPhone, one would usually HIGHLIGHT using your finger on a portion of the text you want to quote, then expand the upper left and lower right to encompass the entire text that you want to quote then hit reply. Then type your comment above the quoted material. If you just hit reply, then it will quote the entire previous post.

Generally speaking, iOS apps have always been a simplified subset of the Mac apps.

I apologize for my former reply as I didn’t understand that you were using iOS mail as opposed to Mac mail.

On Nov 7, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Bob Stern via Groups.Io <bobbystern@...> wrote:

From the groups.io email digest...
Using iOS the “Show quoted text” button had no affect on my reply.
Using iOS I can’t show the quoted content without copying and pasting.

Perhaps it works differently on a Mac.
Bob ’The Beckster’ Beckham
FCC RadioTelephone Licence P1-6S-2422 w/Radar endorsement.
Apple iMac 27” Late 2012 - macOS 10.15.1 - RAM 16 Gig
2019 Harley-Davidson FLHTK Ultra Limited
1993 Allen MDS Theater 2


 

On Nov 7, 2019, Bob Stern wrote:
Using?iOS I can’t show the quoted content without copying and pasting.

I always get my list messages as individual emails, having seen no?advantage to me to get them as digests
The way Apple Mail works for me on?Macs, as well as iPads and iPhones, is that by default, it quotes the entire?message to which I am replying, from which I then delete the irrelevant parts.
Or, of course, highlighting part of a long message, then replying, with quote just the highlighted part.

A digest, of course, will be seen by Mail as a single long message.

--?
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...



 

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On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io <jimdoc@...> wrote:

I always get my list messages as individual emails, having seen no?advantage to me to get them as digests

I’ll chime in with a comment on what’s happened with the move to :

It’s now very difficult to read a conversation on the iPhone. I don’t receive digests, but threads on the iPhone “hide” the message content between the boilerplate forum links, as opposed to on the Mac, where all that “stuff” is discretely displayed at the bottom of individual messages, which in turn are better separated from each other than they are in iOS.

Jim Robertson


 

What I see on my iPhone Xr is essentially what I see on my iMac. And the display on my iPad Pro is the same.

You should see quoted text under this post.

Have you checked the settings to see if something is amiss?

I’m scratching my head on this one.

Best Wishes from Bob Beckham
FCC Radiotelephone Lic P1-6S-2422
Sent from my iPhone 10r

On Nov 8, 2019, at 1:05 PM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

It’s now very difficult to read a conversation on the iPhone. I don’t receive digests, but threads on the iPhone “hide” the message content between the boilerplate forum links,


 

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Jim, I have your entire message (as seen on my iPad and my iPhone) quoted below. It looks exactly the same on those devices as on my Mac, allowing for screen size differences.
All the groups.io references are neatly at the bottom.

If that's not how they appear on your devices, we must have some setting somewhere set differently.

On Nov 8, 2019, jimrobertson wrote:
On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io <jimdoc@...> wrote:

I always get my list messages as individual emails, having seen no?advantage to me to get them as digests

I’ll chime in with a comment on what’s happened with the move to :

It’s now very difficult to read a conversation on the iPhone. I don’t receive digests, but threads on the iPhone “hide” the message content between the boilerplate forum links, as opposed to on the Mac, where all that “stuff” is discretely displayed at the bottom of individual messages, which in turn are better separated from each other than they are in iOS.

Jim Robertson


 

On Nov 8, 2019, at 11:49, Bob Beckham via Groups.Io <rbeckhm@...> wrote:

What I see on my iPhone Xr is essentially what I see on my iMac. And the display on my iPad Pro is the same.
now, this is a good use case for screenshot attachments. I’m on the road and won’t be back to my computer until tonight, but when I can I’ll post two screenshots that demonstrate what I mean.

Jim Robertson


 

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On Nov 8, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Bob Beckham via Groups.Io <rbeckhm@...> wrote:

What I see on my iPhone Xr is essentially what I see on my iMac. ?And the display on my iPad Pro is the same.?

You should see quoted text under this post.?

Have you checked the settings to see if something is amiss?

I’m scratching my head on this one.

I think we’re actually talking about two different looks at the same portion of a large elephant. I read messages on my Mac in threaded fashion, , wherein a portion of the current thread looks like the first attachment:


Note that at the bottom of the message window, there’s a bunch of boilerplate links, but quoted text in the body of the message is easy to distinguish from my own content.

Now, here’s a group of screenshots from my iPhone that show portions of two messages in sequence. It’s much harder to separate the boilerplate links from the message body, and within the message body, my own text from quotation text, even though the quoted material appears in different color, because almost all of the screen is occupied much of the time by all those boilerplate links:


All this could be simplified if the user could compress the display of all those boilerplate links. Perhaps that’s already possible.


 

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This is a legit question not snark. Did you intend to have the quoted content in your reply?

As you can see below it did not display.



Re: start up question?
From:?Bob Beckham
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 13:49:47 EST?

What I see on my iPhone Xr is essentially what I see on my iMac. And the display on my iPad Pro is the same.?

You should see quoted text under this post.?



Have you checked the settings to see if something is amiss?

I’m scratching my head on this one.?

Best Wishes from Bob Beckham?
FCC Radiotelephone Lic P1-6S-2422
10r