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I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material

I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.

I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.

Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:


I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.

Thanks so much,

For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
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Jim Robertson


 

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HI Jim

On my MacBook Pro 2014, running Catalina, Safari 15.6.1, following your link clicked their black print icon printed just fine to my Brother HL-L2390dw.

On my MacBook Pro M2, 2022, Sonoma 14.2.1 Safari 17.2.1 same printer printed fine.

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On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:02 AM, jimrobertson via <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material

I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.

I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.

Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:


I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.

Thanks so much,

For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
--?
Jim Robertson



 

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On Jan 16, 2024, at 11:52?AM, Paul via groups.io <paul@...> wrote:

On my MacBook Pro 2014, running Catalina, Safari 15.6.1, following your link clicked their black print icon printed just fine to my Brother HL-L2390dw.

On my MacBook Pro M2, 2022, Sonoma 14.2.1 Safari 17.2.1 same printer printed fine.

Thanks so much, Paul. The “darring gourmet” blogger’s IT consultant suggested I just try File>Print from the Print Recipe Page. That generates a preview and hard copy output exactly as desired, suggesting to me that it’s something related to the coding of the page, or perhaps the Print driver that causes the anomalous result from my browser. Do you know if your Print Driver came with a macOS download or directly from Brother? (I don’t really know if they’d be different).

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HI Jim,

The Sonoma is the Apple AirPrint driver. Catalina is the Brother CUPS driver.

On Jan 16, 2024, at 11:48 AM, jimrobertson via <jimrobertson@...> wrote:



On Jan 16, 2024, at 11:52?AM, Paul via <paul@...> wrote:

On my MacBook Pro 2014, running Catalina, Safari 15.6.1, following your link clicked their black print icon printed just fine to my Brother HL-L2390dw.

On my MacBook Pro M2, 2022, Sonoma 14.2.1 Safari 17.2.1 same printer printed fine.

Thanks so much, Paul. The “darring gourmet” blogger’s IT consultant suggested I just try File>Print from the Print Recipe Page. That generates a preview and hard copy output exactly as desired, suggesting to me that it’s something related to the coding of the page, or perhaps the Print driver that causes the anomalous result from my browser. Do you know if your Print Driver came with a macOS download or directly from Brother? (I don’t really know if they’d be different).

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As a an old grandma-type cook and recipe collector I’ve been following this thread and finally broke down and gave it a try. All worked well - I’m on a MacBook Air Sonoma 14.2.1 / and an HP Envy 6000 series. ?I didn’t bother with pdf etc. ?I never do. ?I print a recipe or two every week and this looked good for my little collection.?

Becky?


On Jan 16, 2024, at 12:02?PM, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material

I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.

I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.

Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:


I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.

Thanks so much,

For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
--?
Jim Robertson



 

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Oh and yes, I’m on Safari.

Becky?



On Jan 16, 2024, at 4:12?PM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:

As a an old grandma-type cook and recipe collector I’ve been following this thread and finally broke down and gave it a try. All worked well - I’m on a MacBook Air Sonoma 14.2.1 / and an HP Envy 6000 series. ?I didn’t bother with pdf etc. ?I never do. ?I print a recipe or two every week and this looked good for my little collection.?

Becky?


On Jan 16, 2024, at 12:02?PM, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material

I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.

I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.

Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:


I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.

Thanks so much,

For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
--?
Jim Robertson




 

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I’ve had similar problems. I didn’t bother trying to fix it. I usually copy and paste the recipe into a Word file, often as unformatted text so I can reduce the amount of paper real estate before printing.
Madeline

On Jan 16, 2024, at 17:13, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:

Oh and yes, I’m on Safari.

Becky?



On Jan 16, 2024, at 4:12?PM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:

As a an old grandma-type cook and recipe collector I’ve been following this thread and finally broke down and gave it a try. All worked well - I’m on a MacBook Air Sonoma 14.2.1 / and an HP Envy 6000 series. ?I didn’t bother with pdf etc. ?I never do. ?I print a recipe or two every week and this looked good for my little collection.?

Becky?


On Jan 16, 2024, at 12:02?PM, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material

I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.

I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.

Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:


I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.

Thanks so much,

For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
--?
Jim Robertson





 

Same blank print page from Safari here.?


 

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On Jan 17, 2024, at 4:38?AM, Rick KC2FD <rick@...> wrote:

Same blank print page from Safari here.?

So, at least I’m not an isolated orphan.

May I ask about your equipment and software?

I’ve noticed that on the “Daring (sorry about the previous misspelling) Gourmet’s website, elements from many pages (typically the transformation of the cursor to “click me” happen at a VERY leisurely pace (this on a laptop that goes from power on to desktop sign in in just about 10 seconds. I’ll bet it has something to do with the underlying html, but that’s as informed an opinion as an interpretation of the theory of general relativity from a 1st grader.

By the way, for the cooks among you try BAKING the recipe rather than just printing it. I did so yesterday and had to eat TWO!

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From what sites?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Jan 17, 2024, at 03:38, Rick KC2FD <rick@...> wrote:

?Same blank print page from Safari here.?


 

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On Jan 17, 2024, at 11:50?AM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

From what sites?

Just go back to the first post in the thread and click the link, Brent.

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And is that the same siteS Rick is having problems with. If so the site might be the problem. If not, it might be the browser.?

I was suggesting a little diagnostics that might help.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Jan 17, 2024, at 11:07, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

?

On Jan 17, 2024, at 11:50?AM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

From what sites?

Just go back to the first post in the thread and click the link, Brent.

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On Jan 17, 2024, at 12:25?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

And is that the same siteS Rick is having problems with. If so the site might be the problem. If not, it might be the browser.?

No offense intended, Brent, but I’m pretty sure everyone in the thread has had no difficulty understanding that we ARE talking about one single site, and that the active discussion already centers on whether the issue is with the site or the browser. Thus far, it’s unresolved, because SOME people can print from the same site on the same version of macOS and with Safari as the browser.

Rick has confirmed the issue from the same site, albeit with an unknown version of Safari, unknown version of macOS, and unknown hardware.
Madeline has confirmed she’s encountered a similar issue on other sites attempting to print from Safari.

Root cause is as yet unidentified, but solutions have been.

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Jim Robertson


 

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I’ll ask Rick again, what web site were you trying to print??

We have known from the beginning if this thread what site Jim was on.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Jan 17, 2024, at 03:38, Rick KC2FD <rick@...> wrote:

?Same blank print page from Safari here.?


 

On Jan 17, 2024, at 12:02, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

No offense intended, Brent, but I’m pretty sure everyone in the thread has had no difficulty understanding that we ARE talking about one single site,
That is an assumption on your part. Rick gave no indication. Many of the others mentioned that they were on a recipe site, but Rick did not.

So at that point, if no one else find a similar problem on a different site, my guess would be that the problem is with the site, not the print process.

Since a work around has been offered, you have 3 options:
- use the work around,
- write the site owner to fix the page, or
- flog a dead horse and complain about it.


 

The replies from Jim S and JR, suggest that there is a compatibility issue with the print and browser settings, extensions and browser that Jim R is using.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Jan 18, 2024, at 03:03, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

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On Jan 17, 2024, at 12:02, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

No offense intended, Brent, but I’m pretty sure everyone in the thread has had no difficulty understanding that we ARE talking about one single site,
That is an assumption on your part. Rick gave no indication. Many of the others mentioned that they were on a recipe site, but Rick did not.

So at that point, if no one else find a similar problem on a different site, my guess would be that the problem is with the site, not the print process.

Since a work around has been offered, you have 3 options:
- use the work around,
- write the site owner to fix the page, or
- flog a dead horse and complain about it.





 

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HI Brent,

From the original post:

Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:


I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.


Paul

On Jan 17, 2024, at 10:50 AM, Brent via <whodo678@...> wrote:

From what sites?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Jan 17, 2024, at 03:38, Rick KC2FD <rick@...> wrote:

?Same blank print page from Safari here.?


 

I print some pages from bank statements from Bank of America Wells Fargo, either with Safari or Chrome. Same blank page. My workaround is to do a screen capture and printing works fine. ?However, I just ran several tests to confirm the problem and it now seems to be printing OK. It has been an issue for months but now appears to work normally. Stay tuned.?


 

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On Jan 19, 2024, at 5:52?AM, Rick KC2FD <rick@...> wrote:

I print some pages from bank statements from Bank of America Wells Fargo, either with Safari or Chrome. Same blank page. My workaround is to do a screen capture and printing works fine. ?However, I just ran several tests to confirm the problem and it now seems to be printing OK. It has been an issue for months but now appears to work normally. Stay tuned.

Thanks for that additional report, Rick. Unfortunately, additional reports seem to be leading us AWAY from, rather than closer to a cause discovery. For example, in my case, when printing to paper yielded a blank sheet in Safari, the same was true if I printed to PDF (from Safari) but printing from Chrome produced the desired output.

If you remember, could you try “Print to PDF” from Safari as well next time printing hard copy from Safari gives you a blank sheet? But, at least we all seem to have work-arounds.

Thanks so much.

--?
Jim Robertson