Re: small problem with new computer
On Nov 14, 2024, at 3:22?PM, Bev in TX via groups.io <countryone77@...> wrote:
On Nov 14, 2024, at 12:13?PM, Jeannie Girard via groups.io <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
Just tried setting up keyboard shortcuts, But nothing in list for sleep See the attached screenshots, which presume that you are at:
Apple > Settings > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts I didn’t see that Mail loaded lower resolution pictures, so here they are again… -- Bev in TX
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Re: small problem with new computer
On Nov 14, 2024, at 10:06?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
Since I don’t have that model keyboard or any device that has Touch ID, it was a WAG, a wild a?? guess. I thought that the button with the depression could perform other functions, but not sleep. It was more than had been suggested up to that point. I thought since it the new iMac had a M4 chip, it was a 2024 model, with macOS 15, so no optical drive and therefore no eject key.?
I’m surprised the OP could use a keyboard shortcut to put heralded ?Mac to sleep. It hasn’t been available from System 7 to Catalina, that I can tell, unless it was done somehow with a third party app or something like Hot Corners, but not a key combination.
A standard Apple Keyboard shortcut… Option–Command–Power button* or Option-Command-Media Eject: Put your Mac to sleep. * Does not apply to the Touch ID sensor. -- Bev in TX
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One, full custom clothing can easily take 13 weeks, domestically.?
Two, they don’t know anything about you or what you may have ordered. It is another case of throw it against the wall and see what sticks. You made the match, not them. The odds are good that if a con artist sends our spam referring to a major bank, major online retailer, or delivery service, like USPS, even though you expect the delivery through another service, that they will fool a lot of people.?
When you get these emails, stop replying to them, period. If any of the >>specific and unique<<, ?information seems correct for >>you<<, do not click on any link or calls any phone number. Use a known good method to contact them to verify the issue.
I get these false delivery alerts all the time, but I place almost no orders that get delivered.?
Brent ?
On my Mac mini running 10.15.7?
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My most expensive hobby is no longer keeping up to date with Apple ecosystem hardware. It’s become expanding and updating my Scottish Highlands wardrobe (even more expensive, and when you order something it doesn’t show up on your door step 24 hours (or even 24 days) later. For “bespoke” garments (made from measurements from fabric woven in Scotland), the waiting times are often 6-12 WEEKS, and sometimes MONTHS.
Yesterday I received an SMS allegedly from the USPS regarding an item supposedly being held at US customs because of an ambiguous Zip code. The message use of commas and punctuation was a bit odd, but I didn’t really get suspicious until it asked me to reply and fill in a “confirming” form that asked for a credit care number.
What fooled me, at first was the URL to which I was supposed to reply: <>, AND the fact that I was eagerly awaiting a shipment from Edinburgh, supposedly arriving today, being delivered by DHL. I don’t often get packages from DHL, but I don’t remember them using the USPS for “last mile” delivery
At first I wondered whether the postal service’s domains included a dot-com rather than dot-gov extension, but my “Informed Delivery” daily emails come from a address. What I didn’t know was whether -trackcpa could actually be a totally different domain address.
Fortunately, my suscpicions were raised enough to do a quick web search, where I learned that these attacks are rampant.
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Re: small problem with new computer
Since I don’t have that model keyboard or any device that has Touch ID, it was a WAG, a wild a?? guess. I thought that the button with the depression could perform other functions, but not sleep. It was more than had been suggested up to that point. I thought since it the new iMac had a M4 chip, it was a 2024 model, with macOS 15, so no optical drive and therefore no eject key.?
I’m surprised the OP could use a keyboard shortcut to put heralded ?Mac to sleep. It hasn’t been available from System 7 to Catalina, that I can tell, unless it was done somehow with a third party app or something like Hot Corners, but not a key combination.
Brent ?
On my Mac mini running 10.15.7?
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On Nov 13, 2024, at 7:29?PM, Brent via < whodo678@...> wrote:
If that is for Touch ID, then that button alone is probably log out, not sleep, and would require a password to log in.?
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The Touch ID button on MacBook keyboards can be used to power down (not a forced and precipitous restart that doesn’t close files, just an organized shutdown that DOES close files if you press and hold the Touch ID for several seconds. It can also bring up accessibility choices if you tap it rapidly 3 times, but I DON’T think it can be used to sleep the machine or log out the active user. Of course, it’s primary purpose is to log IN to the current account when the Mac is sleeping.
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Jim Robertson
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Re: small problem with new computer
In case you want to try "Hot Corners".? 2021 MacBook Pro,? Sequoia 15.0.1
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Re: A little too little knowledge can be dangerous (SMS scam barely avoided)
Jim Robertson wrote: What I didn’t know was whether usps.com-trackcpa could actually be a totally different domain address. The top-level domain in your case (<https://usps.com-trackcpa.top/I>) is ".top" Wikipedia says: The domain name extension .top is managed and operated by the .top registry (registry backend ZDNS) which belongs to Jiangsu Bangning Science & Technology Co., Ltd. in?Nanjing,?China, and can be registered by anyone since November 18, 2014 without special requirements.
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Re: small problem with new computer
On Nov 14, 2024, at 12:13?PM, Jeannie Girard via groups.io <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
Just tried setting up keyboard shortcuts, But nothing in list for sleep See the attached screenshots, which presume that you are at: Apple > Settings > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts -- Bev in TX
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A little too little knowledge can be dangerous (SMS scam barely avoided)
My most expensive hobby is no longer keeping up to date with Apple ecosystem hardware. It’s become expanding and updating my Scottish Highlands wardrobe (even more expensive, and when you order something it doesn’t show up on your door step 24 hours (or even 24 days) later. For “bespoke” garments (made from measurements from fabric woven in Scotland), the waiting times are often 6-12 WEEKS, and sometimes MONTHS.
Yesterday I received an SMS allegedly from the USPS regarding an item supposedly being held at US customs because of an ambiguous Zip code. The message use of commas and punctuation was a bit odd, but I didn’t really get suspicious until it asked me to reply and fill in a “confirming” form that asked for a credit care number.
What fooled me, at first was the URL to which I was supposed to reply: <https://usps.com-trackcpa.top/I>, AND the fact that I was eagerly awaiting a shipment from Edinburgh, supposedly arriving today, being delivered by DHL. I don’t often get packages from DHL, but I don’t remember them using the USPS for “last mile” delivery
At first I wondered whether the postal service’s domains included a dot-com rather than dot-gov extension, but my “Informed Delivery” daily emails come from a usps.com address. What I didn’t know was whether usps.com-trackcpa could actually be a totally different domain address.
Fortunately, my suscpicions were raised enough to do a quick web search, where I learned that these attacks are rampant.
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Re: small problem with new computer
On Nov 13, 2024, at 7:29?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
If that is for Touch ID, then that button alone is probably log out, not sleep, and would require a password to log in.?
???
The Touch ID button on MacBook keyboards can be used to power down (not a forced and precipitous restart that doesn’t close files, just an organized shutdown that DOES close files if you press and hold the Touch ID for several seconds. It can also bring up accessibility choices if you tap it rapidly 3 times, but I DON’T think it can be used to sleep the machine or log out the active user. Of course, it’s primary purpose is to log IN to the current account when the Mac is sleeping.
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Jim Robertson
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Re: small problem with new computer
Just tried setting up keyboard shortcuts, But nothing in list for sleep
Jeannie
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Re: small problem with new computer
On Nov 14, 2024, at 11:18?AM, John via groups.io <Jlblake@...> wrote:
I use "Hot Corners" Assign a command at any corner. Cool! I always forget about that. -- Bev in TX
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I use "Hot Corners"? Assign a command at any corner.
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Is a short press on the Power button an option with your iMac?
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Just did. and it made no difference while? using the short cut
ctl opt eject. Guess I'll just have to use the apple menu for
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You can create your own keyboard shortcuts. ?See: Create keyboard shortcuts for apps on Mac Select “All Applications”, “Sleep” (minus the quotes), and try to find an unused key combination.
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On Nov 13, 2024, at 5:52?PM, Jeannie Girard via groups.io <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
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Just did. and it made no difference while? using the short cut
ctl opt eject. Guess I'll just have to use the apple menu for
sleep
Jeannie
On 11/13/24 2:59 PM, Pat Taylor via
groups.io wrote:
Sorry, I just realized it was the same thing you were already
trying. ?Have you tried restarting the iMac?
On Nov 13, 2024, at 2:55?PM, Pat Taylor
via groups.io <pat412@...> wrote:
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Try this and let us know if it works: ? Option–Command–Media Eject keys for 1.5 seconds
Pat
My new Imac with the M4 chip arrived
Monday, and I have a small annoying problem. I have
always used the shortcut option command eject to put
my mac to sleep. According to everything I have seen
on line, it is still the same, But when I try to use
it, I get an empty desktop back and it is asking me
for my password. When I put it in, the complete
desktop reappears, But It has not gone to sleep . I
can make it go to sleep by going to the apple menu
and clicking on sleep..But I sure would like my old
shortcut back!
Thanks,
?Jeannie
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Bev in TX
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Re: small problem with new computer
If that is for Touch ID, then that button alone is probably log out, not sleep, and would require a password to log in.?
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On Nov 13, 2024, at 15:20, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
? On Nov 13, 2024, at 2:29?PM, Jeannie Girard via groups.io <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
yes that [ejecting removable CDs and DVDs] is what it is for, although on the new keyboard , it just is a recessed circle
It’s a recessed circle with a real purpose, if we’re talking about the right upper corner of the keyboard. If that’s it, it’s the Touch ID key.
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Jim Robertson
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Re: small problem with new computer
Just did. and it made no difference while? using the short cut
ctl opt eject. Guess I'll just have to use the apple menu for
sleep
Jeannie
On 11/13/24 2:59 PM, Pat Taylor via
groups.io wrote:
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Sorry, I just realized it was the same thing you were already
trying. ?Have you tried restarting the iMac?
On Nov 13, 2024, at 2:55?PM, Pat Taylor
via groups.io <pat412@...> wrote:
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Try this and let us know if it works: ? Option–Command–Media Eject keys for 1.5 seconds
Pat
My new Imac with the M4 chip arrived
Monday, and I have a small annoying problem. I have
always used the shortcut option command eject to put
my mac to sleep. According to everything I have seen
on line, it is still the same, But when I try to use
it, I get an empty desktop back and it is asking me
for my password. When I put it in, the complete
desktop reappears, But It has not gone to sleep . I
can make it go to sleep by going to the apple menu
and clicking on sleep..But I sure would like my old
shortcut back!
Thanks,
?Jeannie
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Re: small problem with new computer
Have you looked at <>?
(I’m on 10.15.7 on a 2012 MB Pro so what I use won’t be any help.)
Otto
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On 13 Nov 2024, at 21:29, Jeannie Girard via groups.io <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
yes that is what it is for, although on the new keyboard , it just is a recessed circle
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Re: small problem with new computer
On Nov 13, 2024, at 2:29?PM, Jeannie Girard via groups.io <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
yes that [ejecting removable CDs and DVDs] is what it is for, although on the new keyboard , it just is a recessed circle
It’s a recessed circle with a real purpose, if we’re talking about the right upper corner of the keyboard. If that’s it, it’s the Touch ID key.
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Jim Robertson
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No I have not I will do that when I go back in? Jeannie
Sorry, I just realized it was the same thing you were already trying.? Have you tried restarting the iMac? ?Try this and let us know if it works: ? Option–Command–Media Eject keys for 1.5 seconds
Pat
My new Imac with the M4 chip arrived Monday, and I have a small annoying problem. I have always used the shortcut option command eject to put my mac to sleep. According to everything I have seen on line, it is still the same, But when I try to use it, I get an empty desktop back and it is asking me for my password. When I put it in, the complete desktop reappears, But It has not gone to sleep . I can make it go to sleep by going to the apple menu and clicking on sleep..But I sure would like my old shortcut back!
Thanks,
?Jeannie
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I found out the if I hold those keys down for 15 seconds it will work<but the I need to use my password to open again,even though I have used settings to say no passwords. If I go to the apple menu I can click on slept and when I wake up the fomputer,no password is needed. Jeannie?
I am running a much older macOS, Catalina, which still has Sys Prefs, instead of Settings, so this is just a shot in the dark. Try reassigning the keyboard shortcuts for that task. That task is not available this far back, so I have to ask, did you use 3rd part app to make the shortcut? There also used to be a way to put a Mac to sleep by another action, is the shortcut there?
Brent ?
On my Mac mini running 10.15.7?
yes that is what it is for, although on the new keyboard , it just is a recessed circle
Jeannie
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