Regarding the “” setting …
On the following Apple Support webpage, set to macOS Sonoma:
Under the heading, “Specify sleep and wake settings for a Mac laptop” It includes the option: Put hard disks to sleep: Turn on “Put hard disks to sleep when possible.” So the option should be available on laptops. ?But that option specifically mentions hard disks — not SSDs. ?
My internal drive is an SSD and, as I mentioned yesterday, I didn’t have any external disks connected to my 2019 MacBook Pro yesterday when I captured that screenshot that showed that option missing from my available Settings Battery Options. ?This morning I connected a HDD to my Mac and Settings Battery Options now shows the option to put hard disks to sleep. ?See the attached screenshot. ?The option doesn’t show up when I have only have an external SSD attached.
I have the impression that that option, which specifically mentions hard disks, only applies to HDDs, not SSDs. ? However, I have no idea as how to prove it, other than the fact that it’s missing when no HDDs are connected. ?I’ve sent a message to Crucial support asking about their article. ?I’ll post an update after I get a response back from them.
-- Bev in TX
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It's usual in the UK for download:upload speeds to be in the ratio 10:1 and I’d guess the same would apply to at least some ISPs elsewhere. The reasoning is that most users do a lot of downloading and very little uploading so it makes no sense to give uploading any larger share of the bandwidth. If you run a server open to the web, which anyone can download from (*your upload*!), then your needs are very different, of course.
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my upload speed with comcast/xfinity isp and brave:? ? ?12mbps jim saklad's upload speed with (what isp?) and brave: 939mbps? ...something is seriously wrong with this picture! ?
On a desktop Mac connected to “gigabit” Fios
Brave
Download Mbps? ?745.47
Upload? ?Mbps? ?939.48
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On Feb 2, 2024, at 7:48?PM, tim meidroth <timmeidroth@...> wrote:
my upload speed with comcast/xfinity isp and brave:? ? ?12mbps jim saklad's upload speed with (what isp?) and brave: 939mbps? ...something is seriously wrong with this picture!
It depends on your ISP. ?Check with your ISP to determine whether you are getting promised upload speeds. -- Bev in TX
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On Feb 2, 2024, at 9:43 AM, mary via groups.io <mkheadley80503@...> wrote:
When I go to System Settings > Battery > Options button, I'm confronted with a dialog box that says "Wake for network access. While sleeping, your Mac can receive incoming network traffic, such as iMessages and other iCloud updates, to keep your applications up to date" and then I have to choose between these 3 options: Only on Power Adapter, Always, and Never. So which would I choose? It is none of the above. Here is a post from Ben Rosenthal on another list: "There seems to be a lot of confusion on this thread about where to find the “hard disk sleep” setting on various Macs. I think this is largely because Apple has been inconsistent about this setting among Mac configurations. "Here is Apple’s support document related to Energy Saver preferences on a Mac. I recommend perusing the article for different versions of macOS to understand how things have changed. "For macOS Catalina and earlier, all Macs have these settings in a pane called Energy Saver. In subsequent versions, Apple gives laptops a pane called Battery and retains Energy Saver only for desktop Macs. You’ll see the article name change when you look at newer versions. "If you’re looking at the Big Sur or Monterey version of the macOS User Guide, try searching for <battery preferences>, for example, and you’ll find separate articles for Battery preferences on a Mac notebook and Power Adapter preferences on a Mac notebook. If you look at the Ventura or Sonoma version, the former article is called Battery settings on a Mac notebook and the latter doesn’t seem to exist at all—and I can verify that there is no such Power Adapter section on such Macs. "Note, too, that in the shift to System Settings in Ventura and later, Apple broke apart Energy Saver/Battery preferences and moved some settings to the Lock Screen pane. This is where you’ll find settings for when to start the screen saver and turn off the display when inactive. "Regarding the Put hard disks to sleep when possible setting, I think you’ll consistently find it in Energy Saver on desktop Macs. On laptops, its existence seems to be less consistent. "According to this article about saving energy on a Mac, you might find it in the Battery preference pane of Monterey with a separate toggle for Battery and Power Adapter settings; it may be in Battery settings of Ventura and Sonoma when you click Options at the bottom; and it may be missing from Battery preferences in Big Sur. Also, it should be on all Macs running Catalina or earlier. However, on both Intel and Apple Silicon MacBook Pro models running Sonoma 14.3, this setting is nowhere to be found." __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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my upload speed with comcast/xfinity isp and brave:? ? ?12mbps jim saklad's upload speed with (what isp?) and brave: 939mbps? ...something is seriously wrong with this picture!
?Speedtest.net
On a desktop Mac connected to “gigabit” Fios
Brave
Download Mbps? ?745.47
Upload? ?Mbps? ?939.48
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On Feb 2, 2024, at 2:37?PM, Bob Stern via groups.io <bobbystern@...> wrote:
Canon did have a driver update which I installed on my MacBook Pro but that didn’t help.
iPads and iPhones use AirPrint, so they don’t have printer specific drivers on them. ?A firmware update (if one were available), which takes place on the printer, not your device, could possibly help. iPadOS and iOS updates can affect AirPrint, if they contain updates to it.
You previously reported: Recently I can’t print from certain apps using my iPhone and my iPad. This includes my banking ads and forms from ?various insurance and financial companies. I can print from some other types of apps.
I don’t receive any error messages. Nothing happens.
I was able to print using my 2011 MacBook Pro.
So, you are able to print from your iPad and iPhone, just not from some apps. ?So AirPrint is working on your iPad and iPhone, just not from some apps. ? Are there any updates in the App Store for those apps? ? Have you tried contacting the apps’ vendors about the problem?
Are you also printing using AirPrint on your Mac? ?
-- Bev in TX
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tim wrote: i agree on the ad-blocking feature so i installed brave...running brave, i ran a test on speedtest.net and was surprised to find download and upload results the same as when i do the test while running chrome....on both tests, my download speed was about 475mbps but upload speed was about 12mbps...seems really slow...seems obvious (mind you, i'm guessing) that the speed determinant is the provider, not the browser...is that correct? Speedtest.net On a desktop Mac connected to “gigabit” Fios Safari Download Mbps 470.01 Upload Mbps 730.42 Brave Download Mbps 745.47 Upload Mbps 939.48 DuckDuckGo Download Mbps 928.46 Upload Mbps 934.46 Edge Download Mbps 718.43 Upload Mbps 934.26 Of course, functionally720 and 920 are indistinguishable for all but the largest files, and 470 is only a little behind. -- Jim Saklad jimdoc@...
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On Feb 2, 2024, at 2:10?PM, tim meidroth <timmeidroth@...> wrote:
did test and it showed upload speed of 10mbps...with upload was 12mbps...isn't that really slow?
That’s normal with some ISPs. ?With a cable ISP, Spectrum, we have good download speeds (~350Mbps), but very slow uploads (~11 Mbps). These are a little better than the promised speeds for out Internet package. ?We don’t upload huge amounts of data, so it works for us. ? -- Bev in TX
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A lot depends upon the remote server that you choose. One might have a server that is further from you than the other.?
I live in Oregon. I will get better speeds if I choose a server in San Francisco or San Jose, than if I were to select one in Texas. Even if both tests were run on the same test url.?
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On Feb 2, 2024, at 12:09, Madeline Koch <madeline@...> wrote:
? Why do ?(250 mbs) and ?(442.72 mbs) produce such different results? (How is anyone supposed to believe them?) On Feb 2, 2024, at 14:50, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote: On Feb 2, 2024, at 11:19 AM, tim meidroth <timmeidroth@...> wrote:
i agree on the ad-blocking feature so i installed brave...running brave, i ran a test on speedtest.net and was surprised to find download and upload results the same as when i do the test while running chrome....on both tests, my download speed was about 475mbps but upload speed was about 12mbps...seems reallyslow...seems obvious (mind you, i'm guessing) that the speed determinant is the provider, not the browser...is that correct?
I would think so. Try: https://Fast.com __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice http://www.macattorney.com/welcome.html __________________________________________________
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On Feb 2, 2024, at 11:19, tim meidroth <timmeidroth@...> wrote:
mind you, i'm guessing) that the speed determinant is the provider, not the browser...is that correct? Correct. What the browser brings to the table is various levels of privacy, ad blocking, blocking tracking and various built-in search engine availability, not speed
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Canon did have a driver update which I installed on my MacBook Pro but that didn’t help.
More detail: ?I am currently tying to print my credit card statement from my bank app on my iPhone. same thing happens on my iPad. almost nothing.
The priny order is sent to my Canon printer. The status screen on the printer lights up and usually it will print the job. Except it doesn’t print and there are no error messages. The printer must think it printed the pages.
Restarting the printer and the phone doesn’t help.
I can print from my laptop but I generally use the iOS phone and pads. I can do a screen shot and print that but it is difficult for me to read.
I have been avoiding logging in to my bank account on my laptop because in the past that was a PIA. But I may do so shortly.
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From:?Bob Stern
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 11:27:40 EST?
Recently I can’t print from certain apps using my iPhone and my iPad. This includes my banking ads and forms from ?various insurance and financial companies. I can print from some other types of apps.
I don’t receive any error messages. Nothing happens.
Canon MF216n printer.
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I was able to print using my 2011 MacBook Pro.
my iPad Pro, iPad mini and iPhone 13 ?have the latest OS.
A couple of weeks ago I saw an email about 5his subject but a Google search returned nothing helpful.
Thanks, Bobby
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From:?Pat Taylor
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 12:04:22 EST?
I would try going to the Canon website to see if there might be an update for your printer
Pat
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Why is it that when I try to use Constant Contact with the Brave browser, it freezes? And CC recommends that? you use Chrome, too.
On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 01:56:44 PM EST, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:
> On Feb 2, 2024, at 10:33 AM, tim meidroth < timmeidroth@...> wrote: > > i'm inclined to try brave browser (per randy rec) but someone else recommended i try puffin browser, too, especially for upload speed...any thoughts about puffin browser? This is the first that I’ve heard of it.? None of the sites that I regularly follow with regard to browser security even mention it. There is some information here: Apparently there is both a free and a paid premium version.? The free version doesn’t block ads.? That’s a feature that I wouldn’t do without. My advice would be to install Brave, and if you are interested in Puffin, try it too.? In fact, install as many browsers as you like.? They are all free (mostly), and they don’t conflict with each other.? I, personally once had eight different browsers installed.? It became clear pretty quickly which the better ones were.? Trash all the ones that you don’t like, keep one or two that you do. I want to point out that there are OVER 200 BROWSERS for the Macintosh.? (Really!)? <> You are constantly going to be coming across new ones.? You don’t have to check out all of them, you only need ONE really, really good one. __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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I just did the test ?390 mbs, 38 Upload, speedtest.net 568.26 mbs, 35.68 Upload.
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Why do??(250 mbs) and??(442.72 mbs) produce such different results? (How is anyone supposed to believe them?)On Feb 2, 2024, at 14:50, Randy B. Singer < randy@...> wrote: On Feb 2, 2024, at 11:19 AM, tim meidroth <timmeidroth@...> wrote:
i agree on the ad-blocking feature so i installed brave...running brave, i ran a test on speedtest.net and was surprised to find download and upload results the same as when i do the test while running chrome....on both tests, my download speed was about 475mbps but upload speed was about 12mbps...seems reallyslow...seems obvious (mind you, i'm guessing) that the speed determinant is the provider, not the browser...is that correct?
I would think so. Try: https://Fast.com __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice http://www.macattorney.com/welcome.html __________________________________________________
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Mary, if you have a rotating HHD, you want to sleep the drive to save wear and tear on the physical mechanics.?
SSDs don’t have physical mechanics, so you want to prevent sleep and allow the drive to perform an operation that helps increase the longevity of the drive.?
No matter where the setting is or the verbiage. ?
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On Feb 2, 2024, at 09:43, mary via groups.io <mkheadley80503@...> wrote:
?Hi Randy,
Thanks, as always, for your very useful tips! However, I'm afraid all the changes in language used between the various Mac O/S versions has me stumped as to how to set things to have my hard drive powered when my Mac goes to sleep.
When I go to System Settings >? Battery > Options button, I'm confronted with a dialog box that says "Wake for network access. While sleeping, your Mac can receive incoming network traffic, such as iMessages and other iCloud updates, to keep your applications up to date" and then I have to choose between these 3 options: Only on Power Adapter, Always, and Never. So which would I choose?
Thanks,
Mary
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did test and it showed upload speed of 10mbps...with upload was 12mbps...isn't that really slow?
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 1:50?PM Randy B. Singer < randy@...> wrote:
> On Feb 2, 2024, at 11:19 AM, tim meidroth <timmeidroth@...> wrote:
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> i agree on the ad-blocking feature so i installed brave...running brave, i ran a test on and was surprised to find download and upload results the same as when i do the test while running chrome....on both tests, my download speed was about 475mbps but upload speed was about 12mbps...seems reallyslow...seems obvious (mind you, i'm guessing) that the speed determinant is the provider, not the browser...is that correct?
I would think so.
Try:
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Why do ?(250 mbs) and ?(442.72 mbs) produce such different results? (How is anyone supposed to believe them?) On Feb 2, 2024, at 14:50, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote: On Feb 2, 2024, at 11:19 AM, tim meidroth <timmeidroth@...> wrote:
i agree on the ad-blocking feature so i installed brave...running brave, i ran a test on speedtest.net and was surprised to find download and upload results the same as when i do the test while running chrome....on both tests, my download speed was about 475mbps but upload speed was about 12mbps...seems reallyslow...seems obvious (mind you, i'm guessing) that the speed determinant is the provider, not the browser...is that correct?
I would think so. Try: https://Fast.com __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice http://www.macattorney.com/welcome.html __________________________________________________
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On Feb 2, 2024, at 11:19 AM, tim meidroth <timmeidroth@...> wrote:
i agree on the ad-blocking feature so i installed brave...running brave, i ran a test on speedtest.net and was surprised to find download and upload results the same as when i do the test while running chrome....on both tests, my download speed was about 475mbps but upload speed was about 12mbps...seems reallyslow...seems obvious (mind you, i'm guessing) that the speed determinant is the provider, not the browser...is that correct? I would think so. Try: __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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i agree on the ad-blocking feature so i installed brave...running brave, i ran a test on and was surprised to find download and upload results the same as when i do the test while running chrome....on both tests, my download speed was about 475mbps but upload speed was about 12mbps...seems really slow...seems obvious (mind you, i'm guessing) that the speed determinant is the provider, not the browser...is that correct?
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 12:56?PM Randy B. Singer < randy@...> wrote:
Apparently there is both a free and a paid premium version.? The free version doesn’t block ads.? That’s a feature that I wouldn’t do without.
My advice would be to install Brave?
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On Feb 2, 2024, at 10:33 AM, tim meidroth <timmeidroth@...> wrote:
i'm inclined to try brave browser (per randy rec) but someone else recommended i try puffin browser, too, especially for upload speed...any thoughts about puffin browser? This is the first that I’ve heard of it. None of the sites that I regularly follow with regard to browser security even mention it. There is some information here: Apparently there is both a free and a paid premium version. The free version doesn’t block ads. That’s a feature that I wouldn’t do without. My advice would be to install Brave, and if you are interested in Puffin, try it too. In fact, install as many browsers as you like. They are all free (mostly), and they don’t conflict with each other. I, personally once had eight different browsers installed. It became clear pretty quickly which the better ones were. Trash all the ones that you don’t like, keep one or two that you do. I want to point out that there are OVER 200 BROWSERS for the Macintosh. (Really!) <> You are constantly going to be coming across new ones. You don’t have to check out all of them, you only need ONE really, really good one. __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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i'm inclined to try brave browser (per randy rec) but someone else recommended i try puffin browser, too, especially for upload speed...any thoughts about puffin browser?
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